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Post# 859743   1/3/2016 at 08:10 (992 days old) by vintage1963 (Ohio)        

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Hi everyone. I have had a Samsung top load high efficiency washer and dryer set for a little over a year now. I really like the dryer but the washer is another story. I can't get used to how little water the washer uses, and the clothes usually come out in a twisted, tangled knot at the end of the wash cycle. I have contacted Samsung about this and they say this is all normal. I understand totally that these types of washers use very little water, but the tangled clothing is another matter altogether. Long story short, I am sorry I bought this washer. I would not recommend it to anyone. I don't know if all high efficiency top loaders have these issues I mention. Has anyone here had these same experiences? What are your thoughts?

Post# 859750 , Reply# 1   1/3/2016 at 09:14 (992 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
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You may be causing the tangling by your loading practice. Additionally, choosing the wash cycle that best suits the load may help reduce twisting.

Experiment and your results should improve.


Post# 859753 , Reply# 2   1/3/2016 at 09:49 (992 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

Now you know how the owners of Frigidaire washers made in the 50's thru the early 60's felt! Only difference is that at least in a Frigidaire washer the clothes were actually CLEAN, although tied in knots! Whirlpool even had a magazine advertisement that their washer would Untie knotted up clothes when washed in their machine! How funny is that?

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Post# 859760 , Reply# 3   1/3/2016 at 10:14 (992 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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yeah, proper loading is a big issue.....

its better for long items that tend to tangle, like pants, to fold them in a Z formation, and placed in quadrants around the tub, rather than wrap them around the tub as in a traditional TLer.....

as hard as it is to admit, these machines do function well, once you get past the mental idea of seeing lots of water......most washing begins the second water and suds saturate the load, pre-soaking if you will.....

even the rinsing is sort of a saturate and extract function......

I have operated a few of these HE TL versions, takes a while to get used to them, and found it best to use a good detergent, select hottest water available, even taking out the restrictor on the HOT side, select fabric softener for the rinse.....

all I can say, is the first draining, the water is filthy, and by the last rinse, it runs clear, it has to be doing something in there.....

try some experiments, good luck, and keep us posted....

Post# 859776 , Reply# 4   1/3/2016 at 11:12 (992 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Any washer can tangle. These microfiber sheets defy all attempts at proper loading in most any machine.

I know people that are happy with their HE topload washers. While expectations vary, of course, many people are happy enough to have the clothes damp and stuck to the side of the basket. Laundry done. Smelly detergents and other additives mask a lot of laundry sins as well.

Like Martin said, I've seen very clean washes come out of HE topload washers, the Whirlpool Cabrio I had a few years ago was a fine machine once I replaced the impeller that had nicks and sharp edges on it.

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Post# 859780 , Reply# 5   1/3/2016 at 11:20 (992 days old) by vintage1963 (Ohio)        

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Thanks for all the helpful tips and hints. One thing I have noticed is that the washer does work better if the laundry is loaded around the periphery of the agitator plate instead of directly on top of it. Old habits do die hard, though, and I do miss the agitator action of a traditional top loader. Having said that, I will admit the laundry comes out of the machine clean, so no complaints there.

Post# 859932 , Reply# 6   1/4/2016 at 04:46 (991 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Frigidaire Tangling.

Ever since I discovered the "Quadrant" loading method, I never had a tangle or a "Rope".

I use the Quadrant method on all my Top Loaders since. No Problems.

Post# 860069 , Reply# 7   1/4/2016 at 18:51 (990 days old) by dartman (Portland Oregon)        

The Kenmore 28102 we bought a few years ago now washes fine, I don't use it but asked my sister who does and she said it rarely tangles the clothes or sheets. The manual does state to load around the outside of the tub for best results and pretty sure that's how she loads it. She just confirmed she does and it cleans better and doesn't bog down the impeller.
Been very happy with it and everythings cleaner and drier then the 90 DD Whirlpool it replaced which was also a great machine for us.

Post# 860106 , Reply# 8   1/4/2016 at 20:36 (990 days old) by vintage1963 (Ohio)        

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Hi everyone...
I did a few loads in the washer since my post and I have tried the Z-formation that Yogitunes mentioned, and I have loaded the laundry around the periphery of the tub and off the impeller. Sigh....I have to admit so far that the results were good. Tangling was minimal, and I didn't feel like I was trying to wrestle a large octopus hanging on for dear life with all eight tentacles attached to the inner workings of the washer.

Many thanks to all who replied and gave me some great tips!!!

Post# 861229 , Reply# 9   1/11/2016 at 14:59 (983 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
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I just watched a youtube video of how these washers work. I have read all the comments. I don't see how these washers clean without water. I think they just freshen your clothes and make them more dirty.


Post# 861251 , Reply# 10   1/11/2016 at 17:24 (983 days old) by Murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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GELaundry4Ever - Can you post pictures of the high-efficiency top loaders you own? You seem to have a lot of knowledge on the subject.

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