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Post# 864125   1/26/2016 at 06:44 (3,006 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Afternoon all,

I'm surprised at myself for not posting about my most recent find here yet but now that the initial shock has worn off I thought that now would be better than never. Can you guess what it is?!





Post# 864126 , Reply# 1   1/26/2016 at 06:47 (3,006 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Another clue perhaps?

Post# 864128 , Reply# 2   1/26/2016 at 06:52 (3,006 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

What on earth is this and how does it change my life?

Post# 864129 , Reply# 3   1/26/2016 at 06:53 (3,006 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Okay, I think you've all guessed now!

Post# 864130 , Reply# 4   1/26/2016 at 07:02 (3,006 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Yes! It's my lovely Hoover Keymatic 3224 from December 1961!

Post# 864131 , Reply# 5   1/26/2016 at 07:04 (3,006 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

This is primary evidence that regularly putting up your wanted adverts pays off - all it takes is some patience!

The machine came from Belfast and it is indeed a very lucky find that came at the perfect time for me. It was very well looked after by an ex-engineer who kept it out of sentiment. He thought that it would be better off going to a good home where it would be repaired, loved and used.


Post# 864132 , Reply# 6   1/26/2016 at 07:20 (3,006 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

The machine is in quite good condition and there are no major issues, just a few small things that need sorting out. The tub leaks from the gasket between the tub front and the outer tub itself, it just requires reseating thankfully.

The spring clutch made a low-pitched squeal when the pulsator was disabled by the solenoid which was resolved by dismantling the entire drive assembly down to the brake disc, cleaning each part and applying fresh grease to the parts that required it. The machine is very quiet in operation both when tumbling and spinning so the bearings and rollers must have plenty of life in them yet - it freewheels beautifully!

The sump hose has been "worked on" at the section that most often fails. However, this has cut off the the connection to the pressure pot therefore the machine has no ability to detect the water level for now but I think I have found the correct hoses in my stash to rig up a near original sump hose so I'm keeping positive.

The machine came without two fill hoses, the valves may need replacing anyway therefore allowing standard fill hoses to be fitted but I wonder if anyone here has any solutions that enables one to use the smaller fill valve inlets with the larger fill hose unions?

One thing that I'm definitely happy about is the fact that the door seal is perfect!

Regards,

James


Post# 864133 , Reply# 7   1/26/2016 at 07:21 (3,006 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        



Post# 864135 , Reply# 8   1/26/2016 at 08:03 (3,006 days old) by kenmore58 (Rhode Island)        

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WOW!  That's fantastic!!  Wish we had a few of those here in the States.

 

Good luck!

 

Ron

 


Post# 864149 , Reply# 9   1/26/2016 at 11:39 (3,006 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Another one saved

Many congratulations, I have one of these too, although yours looks to be in better condition. The sump area on mine has completely disintegrated and the whole machine needs to be overhauled (the motor smells of burning too when it goes into spin). The door boot on mine has perished, although I do have another one. Here's mine with her younger siblings. Cheers, Alan

Post# 864158 , Reply# 10   1/26/2016 at 12:35 (3,006 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
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Congratulations James on making such a find, just goes to show that there are such machines available to you. I hope you can get it up and running soon, I foresee many discussions with out Keymatic gurus over the coming months. I strongly recommend you get some Sun of a Gun for that door boot and the other salvageable rubber parts, but particularly the boot as it is such an unusual design.

I am surprised by how many of these old Keymatics are still about, they were expensive and never particularly reliable - still on the hunt of a wide body KM with powder drawer, or either or both of the wide body non-Keymatic machines.

Be that as it may, well done James

Al


Post# 864179 , Reply# 11   1/26/2016 at 17:18 (3,005 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Love the slant front design of the Keymatic. Congratulations on finding one that has been so well cared for.

Two questions: What does the impeller at the back of the drum do? How does the whole key system work? Does the key select the cycle?

Thanks for any information you can provide. I'm not familiar with Keymatic system.


Post# 864244 , Reply# 12   1/27/2016 at 02:33 (3,005 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Oh Yes!

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Fantastic! A Superb Find, it is so good how things come together, like you James 2 of my Keymatics came from wanted adverts, it couldn't go to a better owner.

Well done, have a bunch of flowers and smile for the camera :-)

Gary


Post# 864252 , Reply# 13   1/27/2016 at 05:54 (3,005 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Good morning everyone!

@Ron I often wondered why the Keymatic was never exported or licensed across the pond like the Hoovermatics were. It would have been a solid competitor against the Westinghouse Laundromats and Bendix washers of the time. I'm just so relieved that I found one on my own turf.

@Alan Thank you! Yours doesn't look bad at all and I'm sure a can of spray paint from Halfords will sort that plinth out in minutes. It's interesting that yours doesn't have the Hoover badge which may indicate that it's an early one? Mine is from December 1961 according to the servicing information. I wouldn't worry too much about the sump hose because most people had to get creative with theirs. I'm going to try and sort mine out over the coming days so I will let you know what I did to mine. I'm not quite sure about what the issue will be with your motor but it may be that the drive assembly needs lubricated or the centrifugal switch within the motor needs cleaning with contact cleaner. I'm glad that you have a new door seal waiting to be fitted, most people are not so lucky! I'm going to have to look after my door seal very well if I want it to last a few decades! I love your large cupboard by the way, it's a neat idea for hiding your collection but still having them in the house and plumbed in.

@Al You've always said to me that there is stuff out there in my neck of the woods, I just had to be patient and boy hasn't it paid off! Thanks for reassuring me! Hopefully I should be doing a test wash next week all being well. You can imagine that I was a nervous wreck thinking that all sorts could be wrong with it but I've got off lightly I reckon. Plenty of Son of a Gun here, I use it on all things rubber in my collection and I've never looked back. I'm sure that there are more widebodys are out there and like you, I am equally surprised at how many 3224s survive despite being over-engineered and a tad unreliable.

@Frigilux The impeller or 'pulsator' comes into action on some programmes to create a more vigorous wash action. It was quite effective but still a bit of a gimmick as it seemed to be an effort by Hoover to stay loyal to their trademark pulsator wash action made famous on their single tubs and twin tubs. The Keyplate selects the programme, think of it as the dial you turn when selecting a programme. The Keyplate enabled the machine to offer a variety of programmes basically by choosing what operations the programme timer carries out. The slot in which the Keyplate is pushed into has many little switches, each linked to the timer. When these switches are closed by the raised sections on the Keyplate, the relevant sections of the timer are activated and the actions are carried out. Also, if there are notches in the Keyplate the switches are open and the relevant sections of the timer are bypassed and the programme advances. I hope that gives you a better understanding.

@Gary Yes, at long last I'm in the Keymatic Club! After watching from the sidelines for a few years as you and other members found them I finally have one to call my own. I'll be posing gracefully with her soon haha!

James


Post# 864254 , Reply# 14   1/27/2016 at 06:20 (3,005 days old) by triumphdolomite (Staffs(UK))        
Congratulations

Well done there James, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. You're lucky that the door seal is in good condition, unfortunately mine still has its original turquoise one with a rather large hole in at the bottom, that and a fault with either the timer or keyplate reader. The timer keeps cycling through without stopping, no problem at the moment as its being a decorative piece of furniture in the dining room. Mine's from March '61.
Looking forward to seeing some pictures of it up and running
Ian


Post# 864361 , Reply# 15   1/27/2016 at 17:03 (3,004 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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those keymatics are so cool I always wanted to play with one

Post# 864435 , Reply# 16   1/28/2016 at 03:05 (3,004 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover Keymatic

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Were hoping its Not the end of washday James ha ha, congratulations on aquiring another dream machine, you hard work pays off and looking foward to watching the renovations and restoration to seeing "Boiling Pulsator" Washing action...



Post# 864592 , Reply# 17   1/29/2016 at 00:44 (3,003 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Son of a gun protectant

Hi James

Yes, I've always been a little disappointed that it doesn't have the badge on the door as I would have liked that. I too need to get stuck in and start to restore mine. Thanks for liking my cupboard, in fact the whole room was given over to laundry once upon a time, alas it's now an office with a cupboard for our machines!

On another note, I'm really interested in this product STP Son of a Gun protectant never heard of it. Is this what you and other members are using to prolong our door seals?

Mike your door boot looks in really good shape!

Cheers Alan


Post# 864599 , Reply# 18   1/29/2016 at 05:02 (3,003 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Son Of A Gun

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Alan

It is good for all rubber parts, not just door seals, it is readily available on eBay
Al


Post# 864605 , Reply# 19   1/29/2016 at 06:07 (3,003 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Luscious!

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Loved seeing Mike's running even dry !

 

Congrats on a super find there.

 

We need across the pond cheapo shipping.

 

 

 


Post# 864637 , Reply# 20   1/29/2016 at 09:27 (3,003 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Afternoon James,

Congrats and welcome to the luxurious world of Keymatic washing, I hope the get it up and running in no time !!

Cheers
Keith


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Post# 865150 , Reply# 21   2/2/2016 at 07:34 (2,999 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Hi all,

Sorry for the delay, as you can imagine I'm busy sorting the old queen out haha!

I've managed to take the front shell off to gain better access to the tub front and sump hose. Yesterday I tackled the main issue with my machine which is the small leak coming from the tub gasket. I removed the tub front and found a little bit of corrosion around the rim which is to be expected so I treated that first. I also washed the gasket and soaked it in Son of a Gun before fitting it with a bead of sealant. Then I applied another bead of sealant and fitted the tub front which appears to have seated correctly but I need to rotate the cast iron weight clockwise ever so slightly. I will test for leaks tomorrow so fingers crossed! Then I just have to clean off any excess and smears.

@Ian
I'm sorry to hear you are having trouble with yours. I am very lucky to have an intact door seal on mine but only time will tell how long it lasts for. I have washed it and soaked it in Son of a Gun so hopefully that will extend its life for the foreseeable.

@Everyone else
Thanks for all your lovely messages! Your 3226 is a stunner Keith BTW!

James


Post# 865151 , Reply# 22   2/2/2016 at 07:36 (2,999 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        



Post# 865211 , Reply# 23   2/2/2016 at 14:59 (2,999 days old) by Sesteve (London, UK)        

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Hey James

Glad you are getting stuck into this. Looks great. I've never seen one working in the flesh before and I can't remember anyone having one of these when I was growing up. It's great that machines like this still surface and even better that you've picked one up on home turf.

Good luck with the restore

Steve


Post# 866348 , Reply# 24   2/9/2016 at 13:28 (2,992 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

My Keymatic is now completely restored and in full working order! Things easily could have been so much different with this machine and I could have ended up with an expensive piece of furniture but I was lucky in that only the tub gasket, sump hose and drive assembly needed attention.

I still have a bit more polishing to do and then I need to find a good spot in the wooden house for it to reside. I can't wait to record a few videos of it doing it's stuff, the wash action is something else! When so many manufacturers are bringing out machines with all these silly jets and 6-motion stuff, I'd say this machine would beat them hands down. When tumbling the machine swirls the water in a circular motion and when the pulsator is activated the water is driven in sort of figure of 8.

It's a quiet runner too, the gurgling from the pump is actually louder than the machine spinning itself. That large 4-pole motor does it's job without any hesitation and all that can be heard whilst washing is the quiet whirring of the rollers and the clutch.

So, here it is lurking in the wooden house.

James


Post# 866349 , Reply# 25   2/9/2016 at 13:31 (2,992 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

That unmistakable outline and lovely colours

Post# 866350 , Reply# 26   2/9/2016 at 13:32 (2,992 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Sitting pretty

Post# 866351 , Reply# 27   2/9/2016 at 13:33 (2,992 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        



Post# 866352 , Reply# 28   2/9/2016 at 13:35 (2,992 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Last but not least, that very unique door seal and drum

Post# 869629 , Reply# 29   2/28/2016 at 17:05 (2,972 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
FINALLY....

I get round to publicly offering my congratulations on a wonderful find, James!

All the years of patience and posting your wanted adverts has really paid off this time. Its great that you have joined the Slant Front Club - I still await my qualifying machine, but would love a 3226 timedial!

Your machine is in lovely condition and, obviously in a very short space of time, you have worked your magic and have a runner already! The machine gleams and, as with your Conquest restoration, is a credit to your skills.

Well done James!

Paul
p.s any other news?



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