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Post# 866208   2/8/2016 at 19:09 (2,992 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Hi, I'm new here on this forum so cut me some slack! Thanks lol. But I am a collector of classic/vintage window air conditioners, dehumidifiers, and fans. So I guess I'll post up some pics of my stuff (I have too many fans). Ps. I know for a fact that I have a friend on here, I believe his name is rstacey1990. He's a collector of window a/c's as well

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Post# 866213 , Reply# 1   2/8/2016 at 19:49 (2,992 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)        

I love that big round vent register, so stylish!

Post# 866216 , Reply# 2   2/8/2016 at 19:53 (2,992 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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Welcome Ken. I have an industial 50's something Fedders that will cool a huge place, but the electric meter will go wild and last time I plugged it in practically snow came out of the round vent. Plus a 70's GE carry cool that runs, but doesnt cool. If you want them, you can have them.

Post# 866218 , Reply# 3   2/8/2016 at 19:54 (2,992 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

As do I!!! That there is something we will never see again in today's world. That fedders is almost fully restored back to original condition. And some more pics of my stuff and projects in Motion

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Post# 866219 , Reply# 4   2/8/2016 at 20:03 (2,992 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
welcome

you'll fit right in here :)I have quite a few vintage ACs as well,mostly 1970s and '80s era,my oldest one a big GE from 1958-it's in pretty rough cosmetic condition,but still runs and cools really nice-4 pole compressor(1725 RPM).Plenty of fans too:early 1900s"brass"to mid 1980s galaxy,lasco,ETC with the bronze colored clear blades.

Post# 866224 , Reply# 5   2/8/2016 at 20:39 (2,992 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Wayupnorth I WANT your fedders! How can I go about getting it? Some more pics

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Post# 866238 , Reply# 6   2/8/2016 at 21:46 (2,992 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Re vintage ACs

Im not convinced that the new window units are any cheaper to run.....Now before some of you call me crazy......The old units blow out air that is MUCH MUCH colder, hence , like old dishwashers, they have much shorter run times, at least the compressors run much less, the newer AC's run those little weak compressors on and on, yes, they draw much less power, but its made up for when they run 4 or 5 times as long as something made in the 50s.......That Fedders is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!


Post# 866245 , Reply# 7   2/8/2016 at 22:21 (2,992 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Hans, some of the older ones are just as efficient as newer ones, just a bit heavier to carry... Many aren't very efficient but I enjoy all of mine anyway! 

 

But not much at this time of the year here!

 

Here are mine: 

 

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Post# 866292 , Reply# 8   2/9/2016 at 05:18 (2,992 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Nice to you here as well Phil, thnx I'll have more pics of the it after I finish putting the last touches on it. It's what 52 years old and had just a little amount of rust in it!!!! On the side, anyone else got pics of their units?

Post# 866343 , Reply# 9   2/9/2016 at 12:33 (2,992 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Welcome! I love old Westinghouse units from 1957 and the GE units with the three round louvers at the top and the same thin profile front to back as the Westinghouse units.

Post# 866526 , Reply# 10   2/10/2016 at 17:14 (2,991 days old) by cycla-fabric (New Jersey (Northern))        
I have a few Vintage Units too

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Hi Emerson5000, I also have a few older window A/C units that I don't want to just toss out. We have central ac and I keep the older units as a spare just in case the central unit dies, which at times has. I have 2 Westinghouse unites from the the late 60's and a few GE/Hotpoint carry cools which we take when we go to Maine. I have one Emerson Quiet Kool from the mid 70's which works well. Should take pictures of them, this way I have them for keepers.

Doug


Post# 866731 , Reply# 11   2/11/2016 at 22:04 (2,989 days old) by sambootoo (Moody, AL)        

Here are mine. These are becoming more and more rare in this area. #1 is a 60's model GE used in my workshop on hot summer days. #2 is cir.1957 Coldspot, not currently in use but works perfectly. #3 is Catalina "Big Tex" 25,000 btu that my son uses in his workshop. Catalina was a store brand made by Borg Warner (Norge, York)

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Post# 866767 , Reply# 12   2/12/2016 at 07:32 (2,989 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Cool Old Window A/Cs

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We have a 1/2 dozen or so really neat old window A/Cs around the warehouse-museum, two of my favorites are the Whirlpool built Coldspots that have a 2nd condenser behind the evaporator so they can dehumidify without cooling, these models have both a thromostat and a humidstat so you can set the ideal temperature and humidity level. They have a reversing type valve so they sound like a heat-pump as they switch from cooling to dehumidifying only.

 

Hi Sam, that 1957 Coldspot is really neat, we had a 1956 10,000 BTU 12 amp 120 volt CP that was nearly identical to yours that worked great for years. These were made before Sears switched over to WP to build their window A/Cs, I believe these were made by Seeger Refrigeration.

 

I look forward to seeing more old Window A/C units and hearing about their operation.


Post# 866786 , Reply# 13   2/12/2016 at 09:49 (2,989 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)        

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I have three vintage units. One is a 59 GE thinline. I think the compressor is shot. The other is a 50s Hotpoint, I'm not sure if it works. The last one is a 60s Fedders that does work.

Post# 866834 , Reply# 14   2/12/2016 at 15:39 (2,989 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Wow I'm so happy to know that there is a ton of people that are into vintage a/c's!!! I plan on getting: 2 1957 fridigaires, 2 philco ford huskies, a carrier, 1948-1955 carrier and a airtemp.

Post# 866838 , Reply# 15   2/12/2016 at 15:59 (2,989 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
RE 48-55

Carrier, that should have the cast iron semi hermetic compressor and use 500 Freon....It weighs a ton and will run FOREVER!


Post# 866950 , Reply# 16   2/13/2016 at 08:17 (2,988 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Got this yesterday hopefully for free

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Post# 867096 , Reply# 17   2/14/2016 at 01:02 (2,987 days old) by Dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

I've been on the hunt for a vintage A/C unit for at least a year now, and it seems they are super rare around here. I need a 5000 btu (or less, I know some are less) for my bedroom because it never cools properly with the central air, and I sleep best when it's COLD. I'm on about 4 years with a cheap modern unit but it has it's share of squeaks and rattles, and as of this fall, it really wasn't cooling all that great. It has been totally cleaned every season, never run with a dirty filter etc, but seems like it's had it's day. I had a couple older ones (probably 70's-80's vintage) before we moved 4 years ago, but gave them away because I didn't think we would need them in a house with central air. Wrong. I did pick up a really neat old Whirlpool Dehumidifier a couple summers ago, truly little old lady owned, I got it at an estate sale for cheap because the fan had seized and it wouldn't collect water anymore. A few minutes with some 3 in 1 motor oil and some twisting and turning and it runs like new... After a thorough cleaning it has purred along the last two summers, oh so quietly. Does a great job (actually I think better than our modern 30 pint unit, and the Whirlpool is only 14 pint...) I think I looked it up and it was built in 68. No full pan shutoff, and the humidistat is dead, but it works great!

Post# 867187 , Reply# 18   2/14/2016 at 17:43 (2,987 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Well Dustin92 I would hunt for garge sales, garbage, dumpster (if your down with that), even a CL add wanting ac units. I usually keep a eye out and get lucky. That's how I found mine. I love doing a full resto on the ones I get. It's involving but totally worth since it's saving a unit from a rusty death.

Post# 867662 , Reply# 19   2/17/2016 at 19:55 (2,983 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Well I got my newest dehumidifier fixed up-needed a new fan motor. Has a really nice recip compressor sound to it. Couple more pics of some of my units and fans.

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Post# 867667 , Reply# 20   2/17/2016 at 21:00 (2,983 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

Welcome to the group.

 

"Not all the older units were that inefficient." When I was a kid I used the E.E.R. formula that had just come out to calculate the efficiency of my parents' 1964 Norge 10,300 btu unit. I got the formula out of the Sears catalogue. The Norge came out to 7.5 and IIRC, 7.5 and up got the label of "high-efficiency" back then.

 

"Older units blew much colder air." I agree, however another factor is dehumidification. In general the lower the humidity is, the higher the temp can get before people become uncomfortable. Newer units do not dehumidify as well as older ones. I seem to recall some discussion of this in late summer. It was just before my heart surgery so I wasn't too attentive. Anyone recall this?

 

Jim 

 


Post# 867692 , Reply# 21   2/18/2016 at 05:17 (2,983 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        



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Post# 867717 , Reply# 22   2/18/2016 at 10:15 (2,983 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
STILL SEARCHING OUT ELUSIVE FEDDERS.....

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Hey Guys,

Nice A/C's. I def love the old units. Form is as important
to me as function. I've always been fascinated with the
Fedders Weather Wheel A/C's since I was very young and had
a Cousin who had a 220v one through the wall. We didn't
get an A/C till later. This was the first one I saw and
was fascinated with it.

Hence......I have been in search of any 50's / 60's Fedders
Weather Wheel to use in my place. I have managed to get
an early 60's Amana round vent "Circle of Air", an early 60's
true Chrysler Airtemp round vent casement unit, and a GE
early 60's Plastic encased window unit.

If any of you come across any Fedders, or other round vent
units, for sale in Jersey or surrounding area, PLEASE let me know:)

Please post any other pics. I love seeing all the different
models.

Have a Great Day.


Post# 867741 , Reply# 23   2/18/2016 at 14:55 (2,983 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

At newvista58 I happen to have a 1962 fedders with the weather wheel but after I fully restored it, I couldn't sell it. Plus I promised the last owner I'd give him first crack at it if it where to come up for sale. They are really good units. I'll post some more pics up later

Post# 867784 , Reply# 24   2/18/2016 at 19:16 (2,982 days old) by Newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
HEY THERE EMERSON5000.....

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Hope all is well. Welcome to the forum :)

I def would be interested in the Fedders,if you
should want to sell it, and the previous owner passes.
Thanks for letting me know.


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Post# 867787 , Reply# 25   2/18/2016 at 19:44 (2,982 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Thx newvista, that airtemp is a rebadged fedders. That amana, would one like to sell it? Looks like a really nice unit! Well the last owner is the air conditioner guy on YouTube, LOVES old ac's. He would go nuts if I sold it someone else since I got it for free when he payed 150 for it. I hooked him up with a 1948 philco York, base model EQK,and something else. I got a comfort aire and a ge superthrust waiting to be picked up by him. Here's the link to his channel. My channel, well it's kinda a long story, but there is vintage ac videos on it. Shorter story:y channel showed up at school, got made fun of (really didn't care) ended up lock all my videos.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO emerson5000cold's LINK


Post# 867882 , Reply# 26   2/19/2016 at 11:04 (2,982 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        



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Post# 867938 , Reply# 27   2/19/2016 at 18:52 (2,981 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)        

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Here are two of mine. The Fedders works great. I have promised NewVista it, but we haven't figured out how to get it to him without costing a fortune.
The second one is the G.E. Thinline. The picture was taken before I cleaned it all up. I've been told the compressor is shot on it. Had an HVAC friend of mine tell me that. I'd like to use it, but not sure about replacing the compressor.


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Post# 867957 , Reply# 28   2/19/2016 at 21:18 (2,981 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Hey countryford

Would to I like to sell that thin line? I love the look of it! As for the fedders, it's the same as mine! Which is totally awesome!! Today I checked on my emerson quite kool drain pan to see how it the rubber coating set up and primered my kenmore dehumidifiers case

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Post# 867959 , Reply# 29   2/19/2016 at 22:00 (2,981 days old) by Travis ()        
Shipping

Justin:

 

You could probably strap an a/c unit to a pallet and have it shipped as LTL freight.  Shipping by freight is usually much cheaper than a private carrier.  I would check on Uship.  I recently sent a monitor top unit crated to Portland from St. Louis and back.  It was about $200 each way.


Post# 868028 , Reply# 30   2/20/2016 at 12:08 (2,981 days old) by Newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
HEY GUYS. TOO BAD WE ALL DON'T....

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Live near each other. We could have a trade off / LOL.

That thinline is very cool looking, Justin.
Here is a GE I have. I think is called a
Fashionette. It works, but probably needs
A refrigerant charge. It never gets cold
Enough. Plus it vents hot air out the
Sides and the back. The hot air on the sides
Radiate back into the room tbrough the side
Curtains. I hope I can find some who will
Recharge it.

Good luck with your restorations emersoncold.
Looks good.


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Post# 868038 , Reply# 31   2/20/2016 at 13:38 (2,981 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Thx new vista, that ge is the first I ever seen before. I hope your willing to pony up the cash for a shot of r22. It is not cheap. I plan to have the fedders and EQK rapped up by the end of the month (along as nothing happens in the process lol) is any one in the pa area? Since I'm in the Pittsburgh area. I plan on doing a full resto to the 57 fridigiare and the philco ford husky, plus I have a friend that wants his 52 philco, emerson quite kool (aka EQK) and a airtemp. Super happy to do them since I haven't seen these units before and probably never will.

Post# 868049 , Reply# 32   2/20/2016 at 16:55 (2,981 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)        

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emerson5000cold, The GE Thinline is not for sale, I would like to get it running. Would you be willing to assist me on getting it going?

Post# 868055 , Reply# 33   2/20/2016 at 18:49 (2,980 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Is My Older Window Low On Freon?

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The easy way to tell is when the A/C is running on a warm day, [ over 80F ] with fairly high humidity, and if the entire evaporator gets wet with condensation and especially if the suction line [ usually the larger of the two lines attached to the compressor ] going back to the compressor gets wet with condensation you DO NOT have a low charge situation.

 

Often people assume that an older A/C needs refrigerant added, but it is seldom the case, if there was a leak it would have all leaked out years ago. Window A/Cs are not like car A/Cs where there are lots of rubber seals and a moving compressor shaft seal to leak a little refrigerant as time goes by. Window A/Cs are more like a home refrigerator, I would guess that 80%+ of home refs and window A/Cs will never need any refrigerant added to them even if they last more than 50 years.

 

John L.


Post# 868232 , Reply# 34   2/21/2016 at 18:50 (2,979 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Good input combo52, some older ac's do more dehumidifing then cooling. Well countryford, I'm in pa, your in Phoenix. That's a long ways

Post# 868346 , Reply# 35   2/22/2016 at 08:22 (2,979 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
GOOD POINT JOHN....

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I definitely understand about the system being sealed,
but I don't know what else could cause the GE Fashionette
to blow cool / not cold. It does exhaust alot of Hot air.
And I have seen it condense moisture. I would love to get
it working correctly.

Any thoughts on what to do? How about you emersoncold?

Thanks again.


Post# 868393 , Reply# 36   2/22/2016 at 15:45 (2,979 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Well...

Like I said, some units are meant to take water out of the air then cool, there might be a Restriction (somehow) and even dirty coils/lose fan blade(s). I'd check to see that air is getting thru the coils and that there is no way air could get around the coil.

Post# 868537 , Reply# 37   2/23/2016 at 09:36 (2,978 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
I HAD THE WHOLE UNIT OUT......

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of its case, and thoroughly cleaned all the components,
even though they weren't as dirty as some other units.

Like I said, it does exhaust a lot of Hot air, but
doesn't get cold. I'll just keep at it and see
if I can get it straightened out.

A lot of this is all about... try, try again / Lol.


Post# 868660 , Reply# 38   2/23/2016 at 19:03 (2,977 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
GE Thin-Line A/C

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Hi Louis, How many BTUs is your GE A/C? and what is the AMP draw from the name plate?, some of these units were not all that powerful.


Post# 868700 , Reply# 39   2/23/2016 at 21:36 (2,977 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Finally some progress...

I was busy today! Fixed the pfna compressor power wire, got the overload device locked in. Got the terminal cover bolted up. Put softer compressor springs in and put the case back on it. Got the stripes laid out on the kenmore dehumidifier case and found the wire hold downs for the fedders. Did I mention I was busy lol

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Post# 868721 , Reply# 40   2/23/2016 at 22:23 (2,977 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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That Philco Noiseless is just beautiful

Post# 868756 , Reply# 41   2/24/2016 at 05:45 (2,977 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Thx top loader!! In the end it cost me anywhere from 180~200 bucks (after buying it, and all the stuff needed to fully reatstore it. I could never sell it, I doubt I could even get my money back from it :(

Post# 868810 , Reply# 42   2/24/2016 at 09:36 (2,977 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
Hi John,

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I will look at the unit and get back to you with that information.

Thank you.


Post# 868962 , Reply# 43   2/25/2016 at 05:44 (2,976 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
My bets

On your ge I bet it pulls no more then 6.5-7.5 amps and is any where are 5,000-6500 btu's, my EQK is almost back together

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Post# 869557 , Reply# 44   2/28/2016 at 11:13 (2,973 days old) by Newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
THE GE FASHIONETTE....

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Is 5000Btu's and 7.5amps.

Post# 869720 , Reply# 45   2/29/2016 at 06:18 (2,972 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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This is my 1971 Chrysler Airtemp I bought when I was a Freshman in HighSchool.

The last time I fired it was about 5 years ago. I am going to dust it off when I get home.


Post# 869727 , Reply# 46   2/29/2016 at 06:54 (2,972 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
GE Fashonette A/C

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Hi Louis, Your GE A/C is not a real powerful model at just 5000 BTUs but could certainly keep a well shaded bedroom very well cooled and dehumidified if allowed to run long enough.

 

This GE A/C would have an EER of about 5.5 when it was new [ it may have fallen a little with the passing of time ] so it would be about twice as expensive to run as an average newer A/C.

 

If you want to bring it to Martins wash-in we can check it over and see if it is likely working properly.

 

John L.


Post# 869733 , Reply# 47   2/29/2016 at 07:12 (2,972 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Eddie, where was your Airtemp made? Around 1970-71, they switched from making them from the Dayton plant to the Bowling Green plant. I think all those with slider controls should have been made at the Dayton plant. (I'm excluding the Canadian-made Airtemps). What does the rear grille looks like? 


Post# 869761 , Reply# 48   2/29/2016 at 11:21 (2,972 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
K

That airtemp looks like it is in mint shape! How many btu's is it? The EQK is finally finished! So happy! I can't wait for a 52 philco, airtemp and a EQK to show up for a restoration.

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Post# 869765 , Reply# 49   2/29/2016 at 11:37 (2,972 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
THANKS JOHN....

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I will bring it to Martins Wash In.

I tried using it in the bedroom at night,
so there was no Sunload. Plus I keep the room
dark during the day, as well. I could not get
it to cool enough to where it was comfortable,
even after running it all night for several
nights.

I know some of these take a while
to get into good running after sitting for
years. Last year was my first season with
it. I would really love to get it working
correctly. I love the Old style, and prefer
them because they go with all the vintage
furnishings.

Looking forward to the Wash In. See ya there.


Post# 869863 , Reply# 50   2/29/2016 at 21:43 (2,971 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Ken...

That is a HO7-91... 6,500 BTU. That is the same chassis that was used for the 8,000 as well.

Phil...

I have no idea which plant it was made. In this pic file, there is a shot of the outside grill.

Also is pic of the Window Mounting Bracket which I still think to date is the most perfect mounting system. No need for brackets screwed into the house below the sill.

This Mounting Bracket was used on the Imperial and Custom series.

They supported from the 6,500 units though the 18,000 units.

The Tempette which was the 5,000 thru 8,000 window series were the inexpensive line.

Custom was a better series and also offered Heat Pump models.

Imperial was the "Grand Dame" of the line.

The Titan series ran 18,500 thru 33,000 BTU. The Titan could bring a room down to 58 degrees and that's with some wiggle room to get colder too.


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Post# 869866 , Reply# 51   2/29/2016 at 21:52 (2,971 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Here is the Brochure from 1971...

I just realized,

The Tempette series was discontinued around 1970.

The Sleeper series replaced the Tempette. It was a sturdier unit and a tad more quiet.


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Post# 870051 , Reply# 52   3/1/2016 at 21:59 (2,970 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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I think mine (the smaller Imperial 6500 BTU) was made in 1971. it has the newer grille at the back with 4 sections and the blue Pentastar logo. 

 

Chrysler Airtemp Imperial

 

Chrysler Airtemp Imperial

 

 

 Chrysler Airtemp Imperial

 

Chrysler Airtemp


Post# 870058 , Reply# 53   3/1/2016 at 23:25 (2,970 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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That is the same unit my Dad had in his bedroom.

So, I would say it's a 1972 1973.

Couldn't believe he left that in the house when he sold it and moved. It was brand new and only used one summer.

I had moved out and he built a new house with no A/C. We had 5 window units he left behind. 2 Fedders Weather Wheels 8,000 and 13,000, a 15,000 GE Super Thrust, His Chrysler Airtemp 6,500, and a 5,000 Westinghouse "Mobile Aire.

When all those units were running, it was like Antarctica in there.

Oh, Geez I almost forgot...a 8,000 Whirlpool in the Kitchen. It was a mid 60s model.

On a hot summer day or night, I used to walk around the house listening to the hum of the compressors and the sloshing of the condensate water splashing around.

They also had a distinctive odor like metal, heat and water.

Just like Bakelite, Rubber, Hot Water and Clorox in a Solid Tub Washer. Right ?

Gosh, things were made so well back then and really worked too. I miss those days.

Wasting Water, Electricity, and Increasing that Carbon Footprint too. Who the hell thought that one up... Carbon Footprint ?


Post# 870191 , Reply# 54   3/2/2016 at 20:55 (2,969 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
weird .60s small AC

once,at the salvation army,found a small(~5000 BTU) AC made with a section through the middle that was ~1-1.5" thick seperating the indoor and outdoor sections,so a window could be closed down through the middle.unit appeared to be early-mid 1960s vintage-anyone know what this was?-Was in my z28 that day,so when home and got my pickup to fetch the AC-it was gone when I got back-didn't think anyone else would want the old paint-spattered thing... :)

Post# 870204 , Reply# 55   3/2/2016 at 22:30 (2,969 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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These were made by Heat Controller but sold under many brands including their own "Comfort Aire".

Here are a few versions sold under the Frigidaire brand in Canada (pics#1 to 5). Chrysler Airtemp also sold these and so did Hotpoint, Norge and other brands too. 



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Post# 870242 , Reply# 56   3/3/2016 at 06:11 (2,969 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Phil...

If you don't all ready realize it's KB from flicker. You always got the info!! Which is always a huge help. Here's another pic of the EQK, and a unit that I plan to get hopefully before it gets scrapped. Any one know what the front cover looks like?

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Post# 870256 , Reply# 57   3/3/2016 at 07:20 (2,969 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Yes Ken, Welcome here BTW! 

 

 


Post# 870660 , Reply# 58   3/5/2016 at 09:28 (2,967 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Breaks my heart.

So sad to see these units all tour up :(. I plan on pulling the one even tho the evap coil is ripped out of it.

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Post# 870887 , Reply# 59   3/6/2016 at 18:13 (2,966 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        
My only experience with ACs

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Oh Dear.  Happens to me all the time.

 

I'm wondering what model Pink had all the problems with. Carrier perhaps?

 

 

Ken- nice retro paneling and carpet.   I miss it.


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Post# 871208 , Reply# 60   3/8/2016 at 06:57 (2,964 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
I've been really busy

So cleaned a unit, finished up a unit. Now I'm ready for more restos.

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Post# 871324 , Reply# 61   3/8/2016 at 15:10 (2,964 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Starting to get hot outside...

Time to put the fedders back together and put the EQK back in its window. I got that EQK end if last summer when it was 90 degress strait for 2 weeks and it never missed a beat. Blew out 65 degree. I was really impressed on know well it did for being in strait sun too.

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Post# 871360 , Reply# 62   3/8/2016 at 20:11 (2,963 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Well. I was having a good day

Got the fedders with the weather wheel finished today. It has to weight in atleast 100 pounds. I carried it up two sets of stairs and open the door, turn the light on only to find a bat, YES A BAT. Flying around my room. So now I got a new problem on my hands... Any one know how to get them gone

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Post# 871373 , Reply# 63   3/8/2016 at 21:07 (2,963 days old) by Dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

Our elderly next door neighbor used to always get bats in her back bedroom, and she was terrified of them. My Dad would always go over with a fishing net and catch it, then let it go outside. Not sure how to keep them from coming in, we've never had a problem with them in any house we've had.

Post# 871433 , Reply# 64   3/9/2016 at 06:02 (2,963 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

Bats are a pain to get rid of. You have to look outside to find where they are coming in. It can be a small crack or hole in your siding. A little hint in locating their entrance is to look closely depending how high you house is with binoculars and look for a small gap or entrance and there will be some staining on the boards where they go in. I guess they relieve themselves either going in or coming out. Need to seal up all holes.

Jon


Post# 871546 , Reply# 65   3/9/2016 at 14:50 (2,963 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
YES FILL UP EVERY ......

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Possible opening.

Bats have a cartilaginous skeleton, and can
squeeze through the smallest openings, even
against pressure. I had one in a place I
rented a few years back. The landlord came
to take care of it. I was told if you throw
a glove up in the air, while it's flying
around, it will latch onto it and fall to the
ground. Then you can throw a towel over it,
and take it outside. I never had to do it,
so would be interesting, to know if that works.

Back to A/C's. On Saturday, I picked up the
Welbilt Casement unit that was for sale in
Manhattan.

I haven't gotten into yet. But I will:)


Post# 871573 , Reply# 66   3/9/2016 at 17:28 (2,963 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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Phil and Ken,

The units you guys are restoring look fantastic. It's nice to see someone trying to save these machines. I love these old air conditioners. I don't believe the stories the government try to push off on us. These new machines that run all the time, don't last and end up in a landfill all to soon are not eco friendly. They only take into account how much energy they are using while running and not all the other factors that go into the mix. It's biased to convince us that newer is better and I don't buy it.

Phil, I signed up for your Flicker page and will see what you post. Nice work fellas.

B.


Post# 871613 , Reply# 67   3/9/2016 at 20:12 (2,962 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Pics of the welbilt?

Is it a mighty mite casement unit? Sound like a nice unit, I don't know of any welbilts around my area, hell my place is the only on in Oakmont that truely uses vintage window ac's. Fedders is ready for summer time use! And NO MORE BATS (so far). I left the windows open all day, came home and he was gone.

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Post# 871615 , Reply# 68   3/9/2016 at 20:27 (2,962 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Re Bats...CAUTION!

If you are bitten by a bat, or get scratched by a bat  PLEASE SEE YOUR DOCTOR RIGHT THEN!!!! You must take rabies shots, Bats DO carry rabies and rabies is a 100 percent fatal disease, and a HORRIBLE way to die!


Post# 871651 , Reply# 69   3/10/2016 at 01:02 (2,962 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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Years ago, would pick up window units people threw out.  Often, there was nothing wrong with them, but they hadn't been maintained.  

 

So, I would remove the cover and sure enough, the insides would be filled with leaves and lint.  Get out the hose and carefully clean the coils and the bottom.  Then clean the housing, and if necessary, oil the fan motor.  

 

Those older A/Cs were built to last.... if you did the maintenance.  And most people aren't willing to take a 10K window AC out because its too heavy.'

 

 


Post# 871652 , Reply# 70   3/10/2016 at 01:11 (2,962 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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As for bats-  We need them.  They are good creatures to have if you have bugs like mosquitos.  No, we don't want them IN our homes, but ON the outside is definitely desirable.  They are our friends.

 

 

The best thing is to put up a Bat House on the side of ones home, in addition to making sure any cracks are sealed.  But make sure, when sealing cracks that you're not sealing bats INSIDE.  Best to get a professions help.  

With a nice healthy bat house, you're nearly quaranteed to get rid of all flying bugs in your yard.  Like a cat, we need bats to help control naturally, pest insects. 



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Post# 871679 , Reply# 71   3/10/2016 at 06:31 (2,962 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

I got lucky and did not get bit or scratched by the bat. If I put a bat house up will they for sure stay out of the house? It's gone for sure out if my room besides pissing on my bed (yes the covers were thrown into the wash).

Post# 871686 , Reply# 72   3/10/2016 at 07:05 (2,962 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

Not to scare you but, bats once left in a room will fly around for awhile. Their sonar gets tired after being in a confined space. They will find a place to rest and hold up for awhile. This maybe behind a picture on the wall, inside pleats of draperies, inside an open light fixture behind a bureau etc. We had a summer house on a lake and had so many bats in the house if someone left the door open for any length of time. There were at least 2 badminton rackets or tennis rackets in each room along with towels. We learned that instead of trying to hit them just hold the racket up in the air they would land on it cover with a towel and release it outside. Hopefully in your case it found the exit and went out the window. Seems like yesterday was almost a/c weather here at 78 degrees in the afternoon. Did uncover both central units outside.

Jon


Post# 871687 , Reply# 73   3/10/2016 at 07:07 (2,962 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
HEY KEN,

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That Fedders sure looks Awesome. I SO want one.

Yes. The Welbilt is a "Mighty Mite". I'm hoping
to open it up and check it out this weekend. I'm
still settling into the house, so I'm trying to
balance out my time with these fun projects,
otherwise the house will never get done / LOL.


Post# 871691 , Reply# 74   3/10/2016 at 07:49 (2,962 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Hmmm....

I did leave the windows open for like a day, still think it might be in there? I slept in my room last night and did see any thing moving/making noise. Still think he's in there?

Post# 871771 , Reply# 75   3/10/2016 at 17:52 (2,962 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Got another unit coming my way

First off let me clear this up- so far I have not seem high or low of the bat. I'm to get a 1960 emerson quite kool easy mount. It'll need a full resto but that's nothing I can't handle. Think I should fix it up and use it for the summer of the fedders? The fedders did a really good job when it was 90+ out and kept my room at 62 on low fan.

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Post# 871844 , Reply# 76   3/11/2016 at 02:18 (2,961 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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Contacting a bat mitigation service in PA would be a good idea.  Now is probably the best time of year to seal the structure, before they become more active.

 

Some Bat information:



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Post# 871851 , Reply# 77   3/11/2016 at 06:02 (2,961 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I have the very thing

For bats...a 12 gauge shotgun!!


Post# 871861 , Reply# 78   3/11/2016 at 07:59 (2,961 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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I wonder how many bats have found there way in when someone puts an AC unit in the window, but doesn't seal all around the edges.

 

I stayed at an old hotel recently, with a window AC unit.  It was installed in a "double hung" window, but there was no foam or anything sealing the upper gap between top of bottom sash, and the glass.  This is prime area for a bat looking for a tight space to roost.  They would squeeze in just above the AC unit, crawl between the glass, and come out on top and into the room.

 

 

 

 



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Post# 871862 , Reply# 79   3/11/2016 at 08:01 (2,961 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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My first A/C, bought when I was 17, was a GE Carry-Cool 5,200 btu (?).  It was a special bol offer from "crazy TV lenny" (now out of business).  I think it was priced around $169 in 1984.

 

I like window ACs.  The most efficient way to stay cool.  

 

I've had central AC.   Too combursome, noisy, and inefficient.  I've had a roof-top RV AC.  Too loud and sucks too much electric.

 

I'm game for a mini-split.


Post# 871865 , Reply# 80   3/11/2016 at 08:33 (2,961 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
KEN,

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How do you find as many units, as you do?
You seem to have the "midas touch" / LOL.


Post# 871879 , Reply# 81   3/11/2016 at 11:00 (2,961 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Newvista

All I do is go to garage sales, house sales, CL, from the curb and lastly ask people if I can buy them. Got this little kenmore cleaned up and painted. And here's two units that are leaving sometime for a follow collector

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Post# 871933 , Reply# 82   3/11/2016 at 16:29 (2,961 days old) by cycla-fabric (New Jersey (Northern))        
Good Old Emersons.

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My best friend who use to live down the street from me, his brother use to have an Admiral window ac, and was going to replace with a larger unit and I wanted to buy the Admiral, but mom said no. Well anyway, he did sell it and he bought an Emerson Ac unit and had his dad install in the wall. The house still stands, but the Emerson unit doesn't work anymore, as there is a window unit in the window in the summer. I do remember the Emerson was a quiet unit and cooled the two bedrooms and den which was nice.

Doug


Post# 871974 , Reply# 83   3/11/2016 at 22:22 (2,960 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
What i did today

Cleaned up the fedders air filters, painted the case to this kenmore but the fan motor doesn't want to work right, it gets tight after sitting a awhile and will loosen after it has been running for a long time, and I oiled the hell out of the motor.

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Post# 871993 , Reply# 84   3/12/2016 at 03:22 (2,960 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

One time there was a bat flying in our transmitter building.No one wanted to leave the control room to help it out.So I did--Opened as many outside doors there was and turned off the lights.Bat found his way to freedom!!He flew around me several times.Since they do eat pesky bugs-hate to destroy them-Any critter that eats bugs is a freind to me!!

Post# 872239 , Reply# 85   3/13/2016 at 08:56 (2,959 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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There was a bat that entered in my cousin't home and she got really scared by it in her bedroom. The next day, she borrowed a net to catch it (similar to a fishing net) and she was scared to catch it. So I went to her home and before the went down the bat appeared flying in circles over her living room (the roof is 2 stories high above that room). So I went in the stairs trying to catch it each time it got nearby and I accidentally hit it with the tube frame of the catching net. I threw it on the wall and killed it.

 

I hate doing such things, I try not even killing bugs.

 

 


Post# 872269 , Reply# 86   3/13/2016 at 12:42 (2,959 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Love those old A/C's!

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Welcome Ken(emerson5000cold). I like your Kenmore(photo 1?) with the large vent and interesting cloth(?) covering the rest of the front of the unit.

Sam and everyone else - you can have annual or bi-annual posting of A/C's...always interesting to see what was once made.

Hi Sam, I love that '57 Coldspot of yours.

It's a good thing I can't find a place to put an old A/C.

Phil


Post# 872435 , Reply# 87   3/14/2016 at 06:15 (2,958 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Thx ovrphil

That cover on the front is to keep paint from getting on the front. Why wouldn't you want to find a window to use a A/C?

Post# 872851 , Reply# 88   3/16/2016 at 10:19 (2,956 days old) by bvf ()        
1957 a/c in arizona.

Hi Im not a collector but I have a beauty in a house i own and we have owned it since new in57….I also collect washers and i have some stainless steel eval coolers from the 1980s they never rust and are worth there weigt in gold..I have one working now 36 years but i replaced the squirrel cage… most people buy a new cooler every 4 years now,,,they hate me and i affraid of someone steeling it I allways like giving pictures here is my 1933 house of tomorrow trailer..enjoy i get pict of ac for you…mark in az

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Post# 873513 , Reply# 89   3/20/2016 at 17:13 (2,952 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

What I did today, newest find, clean the boiler since it wasn't happy. And rewired a fan motor

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Post# 873670 , Reply# 90   3/21/2016 at 12:43 (2,951 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Ken

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Great work and love your interest with your A/C's...along with some others who do the same.

In the not too distant future, we'll be in a house again. Without explaining all the details as to why and so one, a new HVAC was just installed last year, and we're still paying our half on it. If the house was without any air, I'd look into a single unit (it's a 1150 ft2 home) - wonder if that would be less costly in terms of cooling costs? Michigan has some warm summers, but they're never long.

Great thread and thanks for sharing your craft/interests.


Post# 874543 , Reply# 91   3/26/2016 at 20:27 (2,945 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Just some more stuff I did...

Cleaned up the little emerson, tore it down to nothing. Saving it from totally rusting out.

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Post# 874721 , Reply# 92   3/28/2016 at 14:29 (2,944 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        

Picked up some sweet heater fans, started glass bedding the drain pan, trying to save this old fridge

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Post# 874742 , Reply# 93   3/28/2016 at 20:11 (2,943 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Primered the pan

Paint tomarrow and rubber sealing

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Post# 875219 , Reply# 94   4/1/2016 at 10:44 (2,940 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Cleaned this one up..

It was really really dirty! Now it should be one happy tubing unit! And painted up some emerson parts

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Post# 875279 , Reply# 95   4/1/2016 at 22:17 (2,939 days old) by mieletag (Cape Girardeau, Missouri)        

Is that Carry Cool a 6000 BTU or a 5800? It looks like a later built unit, but GE's access port on the compressor makes it to be an older one before the Fedders buyout in 87 or 88. I have an ealrly 6000 with the aluminum indoor fan blade and 3 5800 units with the plastic centrifugal fan. Great units you have and great job restoring them.

Post# 875346 , Reply# 96   4/2/2016 at 14:47 (2,939 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Thanks mietag!

This one is a 5800 btu model, I was running the compressor when it made full head pressure it sounded like it had a restriction in the evap coil. Does yours do that?

Post# 875356 , Reply# 97   4/2/2016 at 16:05 (2,939 days old) by mieletag (Cape Girardeau, Missouri)        

Sorry to to not get back sooner. The 6000 and the 5800 btu units when first started and superheat is high will make (the best I can describe) a low duck decoy sound. A cross between a duck call and a sheep bleating, except lower frequency and somewhat muted. I have a 1981 GE top mount refrigerator with a static condenser. I use this only as an overflow unit now. Anytime the refrigerator is started warm, after a while the evaporator(frost free unit) will make the same sound as the larger BTU Carry Cools. The only thing that I can think of is that this is refrigerant gas flashing at the end of the cap tube going into the evaporator, until the evaporator is fully active and the superheat has come down.

I have a 1969 GE Fashionette that has copper evaporator tubing with the aluminum spine fin wrap. This unit always seems to run a high head and somewhat high superheat even after I recovered the charge, evacuated to around 200 microns, and recharged with virgin R-22. Even replacing the cap tube did nothing to lower the superheat.

I also have a 1989 GE Carry Cool that is one the higher efficiency 4000 something BTU units with the condenser off of the 5000 BTU units. This one has the Fedders Rotorex rotary compressor in it. The unit cools fine, but has a somewhat higher evaporator discharge air due to the smaller compressor and larger evaporator fan and condenser coil. The compressor has a bad discharge check valve on it and when the compressor shuts off, it will back spin the compressor till the pressures have equalized. Makes a heck of a clatter.

Hope this helps.


Post# 875484 , Reply# 98   4/3/2016 at 17:43 (2,938 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Thanks again lol

I'll have to get the owner to run this on a hot day and get back to me. Sounds like you keep your units in really nice shape, I like that. Picked up another hotpoint today for 24 bucks. Spotted 2 airtemps in mint shape and a hunter branded unit

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Post# 875540 , Reply# 99   4/3/2016 at 23:52 (2,937 days old) by mieletag (Cape Girardeau, Missouri)        

Wow, that Hotpoint/Fashionaire equivalent looks great! I would still like to get one of those, had one before but the compressor had high leakage to ground. The unit I would really like to find is a GE Slumberline or Hotpoint equivalent. Keep up the great work!

Post# 876002 , Reply# 100   4/7/2016 at 15:42 (2,934 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
It sure is a beautiful unit!

I'm picking up tonight some real coil cleaner to really get this one clean. It is bad!

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Post# 876039 , Reply# 101   4/7/2016 at 17:16 (2,934 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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great jobs you got going on there......nothing like the older units, style and function...

but where are you able to get parts from, I have a whirlpool designer series from the late 90's, needing a master control switch, impossible to find.....


Post# 876051 , Reply# 102   4/7/2016 at 19:04 (2,934 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
Well yogitunes...

I haven't had to replace any parts besides the Capacitors. I really don't know where to find parts but I think the only website would be repair clinic. Should be able to put in model and serial number and they should at least give you a part number that could led you to one on eBay. That's the best I got and thanks I try hard to keep these old units up and running.

Post# 876197 , Reply# 103   4/8/2016 at 20:46 (2,932 days old) by emerson5000cold ()        
My youtude videos




















































Believe me, you want to watch these since I had some really rare units





















































Post# 876244 , Reply# 104   4/9/2016 at 11:33 (2,932 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Thanks for posting those Great Videos.

Soothing Compressor sounds from years gone by.

Love the Philco Noiseless. Actually all of them.

We had in our house growing up GE, Fedders Chrysler Airtemp, Westinghouse and Whirlpool.

Our neighbors had a 23,000 BTU Coldspot. I used to love to hear that kind of a grunt/growl sound when the compressor kicked on.

Also nothing like the sound on a Humid Hot Summer's Day to hear the condensate water splashing around inside the units.

Today's units sound so anemic.


Post# 876323 , Reply# 105   4/10/2016 at 00:51 (2,931 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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Thanks for the videos. I was wondering how noiseless the Philco Noiselesses were...they seem quiet at least.

Wonder when Philco left the room AC business? I'd guess mid-Seventies.

I agree, Eddie. Air conditioners are the sound of summer!


Post# 876522 , Reply# 106   4/11/2016 at 07:59 (2,930 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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I wonder how they came up with Noiseless.

That's quite a claim. But then again, all that wonderful engineering back in the day... they were more quiet than most.

Funny how the compressors from those days were louder but the sounds were so soothing, they were wonderful to sleep to.


Post# 876668 , Reply# 107   4/11/2016 at 21:22 (2,929 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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Absolutely. I remember the low-pitched VOOM our 1953 Mitchell made, not the high pitched whoosh you get from the newer ones. Also, it didn't rattle!

Post# 877481 , Reply# 108   4/17/2016 at 20:20 (2,923 days old) by Emerson5000cold ()        

Thanks everyone! I had the Philco ford running again today. Also got my new hot point installed, just need to change the plug out so it can be plugged in lol

Post# 877484 , Reply# 109   4/17/2016 at 20:30 (2,923 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Westinghouse

Built one in the 60s that was REALLY QUIET, the outside of the cabinet was built so the compressor hung about a foot or more down the wall outside, our neighbor had one and it was about as quiet as a fan running.


Post# 877633 , Reply# 110   4/19/2016 at 00:32 (2,922 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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The blog linked by PhilR above actually has a picture of a brochure about these unusual Westinghouse units. Looks like a good idea that probably didn't catch on with the spread of central AC.

The name "Continental SS" doesn't seem like a good idea, though, considering the WWII implications.



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Post# 877748 , Reply# 111   4/19/2016 at 14:49 (2,922 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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I seem to remember Sears (in Canada at least) selling that style of a/c which hung down below the window.  


Post# 878969 , Reply# 112   4/28/2016 at 21:53 (2,912 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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Hi Ken,

It's good you're not using an acid base cleaner on those old coils. I made that mistake once. The acid will eat through the corrosion on the coils, especially where they sit in the water, and then the coil is ruined. Do you use a fin comb to straighten damaged fins on coils?

Brian


Post# 1082842 , Reply# 113   7/28/2020 at 18:36 (1,361 days old) by Ac1954 (Calvert county MD)        
Ac

1950s fedders weather wheel one of 3 along with 6 Philcos I’m saving from a abandoned motel

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Post# 1082930 , Reply# 114   7/29/2020 at 11:29 (1,360 days old) by sarahperdue (Alabama)        
Fedders envy

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We've had multiple burglaries in the country over the years, and the Fedders that belonged to my grandmother's half sister is one of the things I miss the most. I think "Big Sister" was born in 1888, and the a/c could still make icicles into the 1990s.


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