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Post# 870229   3/3/2016 at 03:19 (2,947 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Another month, another thread. Lots to look at so lets get going with an AEG Dishwasher. 1990s?
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Post# 870230 , Reply# 1   3/3/2016 at 03:20 (2,947 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Seems like there is no end to Bosch dishwashers at the moment
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Post# 870231 , Reply# 2   3/3/2016 at 03:21 (2,947 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870232 , Reply# 3   3/3/2016 at 03:24 (2,947 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870233 , Reply# 4   3/3/2016 at 03:27 (2,947 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870234 , Reply# 5   3/3/2016 at 03:30 (2,947 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Now, I cannot swear to it but this looks a lot older than a current model to me, more like mid 1990s, if not even older. They claim it has not been used
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Post# 870236 , Reply# 6   3/3/2016 at 03:34 (2,947 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Well here is a name from the past - Bejam was a pioneer chain of shops to promote the sale of freezers - so they sold almost entirely frozen food out of chest freezers. They sold freezers and a small selection of other appliances too. As far as I remember the Bejam name disappeared around 1988 or so, not sure if they became what we know as Iceland today
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Post# 870237 , Reply# 7   3/3/2016 at 03:36 (2,947 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870253 , Reply# 8   3/3/2016 at 07:08 (2,947 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Ah, it's dishwasher month!
Yes, the AEG is from the mid nineties. I bought my first AEG in 1994, a 578, due to problems it was replaced by AEG in 1995 with the model 6060 (for a little extra I got a higher end model), from the new line with four digits. I think this line was replaced already again in 1997 or 1998 IIRC. The Whirlpool is from not too long after the full take over of Philips by Whirlpool. It doesn't have the typical Philips upper rack. So my wild guess is that the Whirlpool dishwasher is from the early nineties. |
Post# 870276 , Reply# 9   3/3/2016 at 07:57 (2,947 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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The Whirlpool is like no dishwasher ever sold here. |
Post# 870286 , Reply# 10   3/3/2016 at 09:09 (2,947 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 870297 , Reply# 11   3/3/2016 at 10:48 (2,947 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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I was going to guess that, but was not sure. It's difficult to keep up these days with so much extreme global sourcing of things. Was it 1990, 91, or 92 when Whirlpool absorbed Philips white goods? |
Post# 870318 , Reply# 12   3/3/2016 at 13:12 (2,947 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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It was more like towards the end of the 1980s, here at least. At first they became Philips Whirlpool branded, and later Whirlpool. My first washing machine, dryer and dishwasher, bought in 1979/80 where all Philips - washer and dryer (front loading of course LOL) were manufactured in the UK, the dishwasher in Germany I think. Philips also manufactured washing machines in France. I am very pleased to have examples of both the washer and dryer in my collection although they are not the originals I bought.
I will say though I did buy a Whirlpool oven in 2003 and it was actually quite good. Al |
Post# 870324 , Reply# 13   3/3/2016 at 13:31 (2,947 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Whirlpool bought 53% of the Philips stock in 1988. The rest was bought up in 1991. Philips Whirlpool products were built in that period. Whirlpool products after that.
Philips and Bauknecht dishwashers were built in Neunkirchen in Germany. Like more Bauknecht plants, they were closed by Whirlpool. The plant where the dishwashers were manufactured, was taken over by ZF, the transmission manufacturer including 240 workers. |
Post# 870438 , Reply# 14   3/4/2016 at 07:58 (2,946 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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so Whirlpool closed a bunch of plants like AB Electrolux did here. ZF is a large employer here as well, in both design and manufacturing for mainly Chrysler and Jeep transmissions. |
Post# 870528 , Reply# 15   3/4/2016 at 16:15 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870529 , Reply# 16   3/4/2016 at 16:23 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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It has the 60mm thickness effect worktops which might be difficult to replace. Still, good price though
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Post# 870532 , Reply# 17   3/4/2016 at 16:25 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870533 , Reply# 18   3/4/2016 at 16:27 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Mid 1980s - I never really liked this style but I can see now that it has a kind of retro charm. be that as it may, it will be an excellent oven
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Post# 870534 , Reply# 19   3/4/2016 at 16:31 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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This is the next series after the one shown above and again should be a good oven. the strips to the right of the clock light up as the temperature is set higher
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Post# 870536 , Reply# 20   3/4/2016 at 16:34 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870537 , Reply# 21   3/4/2016 at 16:35 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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1960s not 1950s - looks nice and clean too
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Post# 870538 , Reply# 22   3/4/2016 at 16:38 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I would say 1980s, this too looks in exceptional condition
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Post# 870546 , Reply# 23   3/4/2016 at 17:25 (2,945 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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The Caron Capri sort of resembles my moms old 30 inch Tappan Gallery from the early 70's. It has a glass electric warming shelf. |
Post# 870597 , Reply# 24   3/5/2016 at 01:32 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Vacerator
The Carron was pretty much unique in the British market during its life (it was in production in one for or another for about 25 years) for during most of that time wider cookers with two side by side ovens were not popular. It cane in both gas and electric versions and there is a griddle under that black cover on the hob. It had salt and pepper shakers built into the top above the controls |
Post# 870598 , Reply# 25   3/5/2016 at 01:36 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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In Poole
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Post# 870599 , Reply# 26   3/5/2016 at 02:08 (2,945 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)   |   | |
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Only 35Quid at this point. I would love the units, the floor, and the wall covering. And look at what good condition they are in.
If those were in the U.S., they'd probably have been altered or be in shabby condition.
I can't do with the double taps, though, but an easy change. I don't even like the typical double handled/single spout U.S. faucets.
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Post# 870600 , Reply# 27   3/5/2016 at 02:11 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Dont see these often, an alternative to the hostess trolley
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Post# 870601 , Reply# 28   3/5/2016 at 02:14 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I had always associated the Monogram with GE (as in US GE) but not sure where this comes from
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Post# 870602 , Reply# 29   3/5/2016 at 02:16 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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This seller has several manuals for sale - see them in the "Sellers Other Items"
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Post# 870603 , Reply# 30   3/5/2016 at 02:19 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870604 , Reply# 31   3/5/2016 at 02:22 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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This looks like a good deal for whats included
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Post# 870607 , Reply# 32   3/5/2016 at 02:38 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870608 , Reply# 33   3/5/2016 at 02:48 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I will say straight up that this is not a classic item, but it could be a bargain for someone as it is collection only. I bought a similar electric pressure cooker last year and I love it.
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Post# 870610 , Reply# 34   3/5/2016 at 02:56 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870612 , Reply# 35   3/5/2016 at 03:02 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870613 , Reply# 36   3/5/2016 at 03:06 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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This must be about 20 years old as I bought one similar in the mid 1990s. Not cheap, but looks unused
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Post# 870615 , Reply# 37   3/5/2016 at 03:11 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870616 , Reply# 38   3/5/2016 at 03:15 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I am not sure how they have done it but this should not be operating on a 13amp plug
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Post# 870617 , Reply# 39   3/5/2016 at 03:18 (2,945 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870646 , Reply# 40   3/5/2016 at 08:26 (2,945 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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Alliance systems is indeed Speed Queen! Last I knew, a school teachers union out of Montreal owned them. |
Post# 870782 , Reply# 41   3/6/2016 at 03:06 (2,944 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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When it was new this must have been an expensive kitchen, the double doors and angled handles indicate that it was English Rose. The oven is a 1980s replacement - Philips (by the look of it before it became Philips Whirlpool) as is the ceramic hob which is Tricity. The size of the oven housing indicates that it originally held a Moffat oven, and probably one of the earlier ones of Canadian manufacture. Looks like a cupboard was removed to accommodate a dishwasher
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Post# 870783 , Reply# 42   3/6/2016 at 03:19 (2,944 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Here is a catalogue from the 1970s showing the later styles. Yes that IS a Westinghouse range you can see, for some reason ER frequently displayed their kitchens with Westinghouse appliances.
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Post# 870784 , Reply# 43   3/6/2016 at 03:22 (2,944 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870933 , Reply# 44   3/7/2016 at 02:15 (2,943 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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A name long gone if not quite forgotten, Winfield was their own brand label
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Post# 870934 , Reply# 45   3/7/2016 at 02:16 (2,943 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Later (late 1980s I think) version of the classic RH Kettle
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Post# 870935 , Reply# 46   3/7/2016 at 02:19 (2,943 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I would place this as late 1980s too, maybe early 1990s, or course it has nothing to do with the GM frigidaire
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Post# 870937 , Reply# 47   3/7/2016 at 02:21 (2,943 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I bought my parents one of these as a gift in the 1970s, although it worked OK it was a bit small to be of much use.
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Post# 870938 , Reply# 48   3/7/2016 at 02:27 (2,943 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Hoover washing machine, as simple as it gets. Its missing the (gravity) drain hose in the front LH side. Complete with free 15amp plug LOL
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Post# 870939 , Reply# 49   3/7/2016 at 02:37 (2,943 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Shows how the machine developed, now with heater (although also available without) and emptying pump. This new style came in in 1953 and was virtually unchanged throughout the life of the machine, this one is from around 1966 or so.
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Post# 870940 , Reply# 50   3/7/2016 at 02:39 (2,943 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 870952 , Reply# 51   3/7/2016 at 05:10 (2,943 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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I would guess they had fairly easy access to Canadian built Westinghouse Ranges. |
Post# 870961 , Reply# 52   3/7/2016 at 07:04 (2,943 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Philips coffeemaker:
This looks like the first Philips coffeemaker. It was introduced in 1967. The first model had a round light, no button and a cloth filter. Later models didn't have that filter anymore and soon a button was introduced, clients wanted that and other coffeemakers had one. As a matter of fact, this model was probably manufactured in Groningen. In the 1960's Philips moved the production of Domestic Appliances (Philips DAP) to Groningen. In 1989 the production was moved to another town. The main office of the division remained here until 2001. I have been a member of the Philips DAP consumer panel for a while in the early 90's. One of the appliances we advised on was a coffee maker. A much newer one ofcourse. Interesting to see how such things go. AEG washer/dryer combo: That machine was built by Lepper, IIRC we discussed that before. Lepper was the manufacturer of Matura. See this thread for pictures of a Matura: www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... |
Post# 870968 , Reply# 53   3/7/2016 at 07:34 (2,943 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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We had Norelco ones here in the 70's. quite large, black, and silver. All of the angles were curved from the top and back, and upper base. |
Post# 871002 , Reply# 54   3/7/2016 at 11:23 (2,943 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 871222 , Reply# 55   3/8/2016 at 08:01 (2,942 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 871225 , Reply# 56   3/8/2016 at 08:04 (2,942 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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belt drive. |
Post# 871226 , Reply# 57   3/8/2016 at 08:04 (2,942 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Lec always seemed like pretty much BOL refrigeration to me and this is a good example of it. A bit rough on the outside at least its clean on the inside
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Post# 871227 , Reply# 58   3/8/2016 at 08:06 (2,942 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Although a bit more upmarket than Lec, this is pretty BOL by Zanussi standards. Early 1980s
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Post# 871230 , Reply# 59   3/8/2016 at 08:10 (2,942 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 871236 , Reply# 60   3/8/2016 at 08:20 (2,942 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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one is way nicer inside. |
Post# 871410 , Reply# 61   3/9/2016 at 03:27 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 871411 , Reply# 62   3/9/2016 at 03:31 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Its funny how these things always seem to come in groups for here is another one, I wonder what appliances were in this kitchen as there seems no provision for them in this layout.
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Post# 871412 , Reply# 63   3/9/2016 at 03:36 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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1980s kitchens are not generally not something I care for much, and this is typical version of a more simple style although I do not believe this was a cheap kitchen by any means - it would have been quite common to have something like this with cherry red handles. The flooring looks more 1970s, but the cupboards and fittings look far more like mid 1980s
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Post# 871413 , Reply# 64   3/9/2016 at 03:40 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I am posting this more as a curiosity than anything else. I have no idea how well these dishwashers performed but I have them definitely filed under "cheap and nasty"
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Post# 871414 , Reply# 65   3/9/2016 at 03:43 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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More cheap and nasty, this seems to be similar to the one just posted - what did I just say about these things coming in groups - I cant believe someone is actually bidding on this unless they want it for the curiosity factor
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Post# 871415 , Reply# 66   3/9/2016 at 03:48 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Servis, from after the brand toppled from its former quality label - apparently working seven years ago, it was probably lucky to have kept going that long
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Post# 871416 , Reply# 67   3/9/2016 at 03:51 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Although similar metal construction to the English Rose metal units of the post WW2 period, these do not have the ER classic retro feel to them, I doubt they will get £750 for it although the built in bin is a novel feature.
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Post# 871417 , Reply# 68   3/9/2016 at 03:54 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Just the thing is you have a lot of washing and a three phase electrical supply. Apparently from 1997
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Post# 871419 , Reply# 69   3/9/2016 at 03:59 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Missing its stand but with the original bowl - these were sold all over Europe under various brand names - Krups is one. Around from the mid 1960s this version from the early 1970s.
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Post# 871420 , Reply# 70   3/9/2016 at 04:01 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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complete with bowl and stand, this appears to be new, as stated before this is from the 1970s although the Made In Republic of Ireland indicates it to be mid to later 1970s
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Post# 871475 , Reply# 72   3/9/2016 at 08:35 (2,941 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 871525 , Reply# 73   3/9/2016 at 13:16 (2,941 days old) by triumphdolomite (Staffs(UK))   |   | |
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Al I'll go for it being a Hoover matchbox dryer. Ian |
Post# 871530 , Reply# 74   3/9/2016 at 13:39 (2,940 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 871544 , Reply# 75   3/9/2016 at 14:45 (2,940 days old) by hoovermad (England)   |   | |
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I must admit I have thought about it but funds are limited at moment. (The joy of extended family with 6 kids) I don't remember modifying the spinner,but it could be one of the other engineers that worked for me. I will try and find out. |
Post# 871549 , Reply# 76   3/9/2016 at 15:14 (2,940 days old) by Ricky5050 (Durham Britain)   |   | |
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This is free to a good home or it goes to scrap man. 1990 AEG 435 favorite dishwasher. Would match wd shown earlier
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Post# 871596 , Reply# 77   3/9/2016 at 18:43 (2,940 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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That same Merloni made Servis semi-integrated D-washer lasted us for years, the best dishwasher we ever had.
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Post# 871606 , Reply# 78   3/9/2016 at 19:12 (2,940 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 872585 , Reply# 79   3/15/2016 at 02:53 (2,935 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872586 , Reply# 80   3/15/2016 at 02:55 (2,935 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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We talked about Philips domestic appliances up the thread, this oven is an example from that period
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Post# 872588 , Reply# 81   3/15/2016 at 02:57 (2,935 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872589 , Reply# 82   3/15/2016 at 02:59 (2,935 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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From the prior range to the one above - this is also an excellent oven, I have one myself
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Post# 872590 , Reply# 83   3/15/2016 at 03:01 (2,935 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872591 , Reply# 84   3/15/2016 at 03:04 (2,935 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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1970s - hardly worth £150 but might be worth a low offer
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Post# 872592 , Reply# 85   3/15/2016 at 03:05 (2,935 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872593 , Reply# 86   3/15/2016 at 03:07 (2,935 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872594 , Reply# 87   3/15/2016 at 03:09 (2,935 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872631 , Reply# 88   3/15/2016 at 08:26 (2,935 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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About the Neff ovens. I can see what the dials on the newer one are for, at least I suppose. One for the lower oven, and two for the upper oven, one for the fan and one for the traditional heating method, right?
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Post# 872635 , Reply# 89   3/15/2016 at 09:09 (2,935 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I believe you are correct about the later oven. I had the previous model with retractable knobs - purchased in 1985 and used until 2000 (and 16 years after I still regret getting rid of it) and it had fan only in the main oven. The smaller oven/grill was top and bottom heat (together) only - in addition to the removable grill element there was an element which went right round the top of the oven and (I presume) one in the oven floor. To operate the grill you turned the centre knob all the way round as far as it would go to a sort of flame symbol, the left hand knob was to adjust the grill temperature and only worked with the centre knob in the correct position. This model introduced top/bottom heat in the main cavity as an alternative to fan and each type had full thermostatic control. The with the lower oven/grill you turned the knob all the way round but could then turn it back to control the grill setting - this (rather rambling) explanation might make more sense if you have a look at the single oven of the TOL model in reply 19 - the controls functioned in the same way - here they just did not have the light up display - I always preferred this version of the two for being less gimmicky looking. I think the LH knob in the older model is to choose top or bottom heat or grill in the smaller oven/grill. I will have to have a closer look at its function when I am home as I have only used this small oven once to warm some plates in the five years or so I have had it. Or buy this one (I have seriously thought about it for when mine gives up) for the instruction manual. I occasionally use the main oven (which is excellent) but mostly I use my separate Neff Combi Micro which I think is the same as yours only built in Al |
Post# 872811 , Reply# 90   3/16/2016 at 04:11 (2,934 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872812 , Reply# 91   3/16/2016 at 04:18 (2,934 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872813 , Reply# 92   3/16/2016 at 04:21 (2,934 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872814 , Reply# 93   3/16/2016 at 04:23 (2,934 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872839 , Reply# 94   3/16/2016 at 09:06 (2,934 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872840 , Reply# 95   3/16/2016 at 09:10 (2,934 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Bought one of these myself 20-25 years ago, used it until 2008 when replaced with a Tefal Steam Generator iron, this was one of the best I ever had
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Post# 872841 , Reply# 96   3/16/2016 at 09:12 (2,934 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872843 , Reply# 97   3/16/2016 at 09:16 (2,934 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Manufactured by Tappen.
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Post# 872844 , Reply# 98   3/16/2016 at 09:17 (2,934 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872846 , Reply# 99   3/16/2016 at 09:21 (2,934 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872849 , Reply# 100   3/16/2016 at 09:40 (2,934 days old) by Whispermatic (Guildford)   |   | |
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Post# 872958 , Reply# 101   3/17/2016 at 02:35 (2,933 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Post# 872959 , Reply# 102   3/17/2016 at 03:12 (2,933 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I could be mistaken Pete, I always thought these were Tappen manufacture - I presume there are equivalent US/Canadian models.
Mind you, at the time we are talking here (turn of the 1970s/80s) the UK Moffat company would have had little to do with the Canadian Moffat - the cookers and ovens/hobs had been manufactured in the UK for about 10 years by that stage, although previously they were Canadian manufacture Al |
Post# 872983 , Reply# 104   3/17/2016 at 08:42 (2,933 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872984 , Reply# 105   3/17/2016 at 08:59 (2,933 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 872985 , Reply# 106   3/17/2016 at 09:02 (2,933 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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And if Rational it would have been top quality. Not sure its worth £395 now though - the oven is branded Hotpoint, manufactured by Bosch, similar to the double oven I posted earlier in the thread
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Post# 872986 , Reply# 107   3/17/2016 at 09:06 (2,933 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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And this was the kind of kitchen for those who could not afford a Rational kitchen - MFI - cheap although in fairness not bad quality for the price - I bought an MFI kitchen new about 25 years ago and it was not all that bad with a bit of looking after
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Post# 873287 , Reply# 108   3/19/2016 at 03:50 (2,931 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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NIB. Its the most basic with no switch off when boiled but hey, its PURPLE!
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Post# 873288 , Reply# 109   3/19/2016 at 03:52 (2,931 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 873289 , Reply# 110   3/19/2016 at 04:07 (2,931 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 873291 , Reply# 111   3/19/2016 at 04:16 (2,931 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 873551 , Reply# 112   3/20/2016 at 21:45 (2,929 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Post# 874324 , Reply# 113   3/25/2016 at 04:00 (2,925 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Don't recognise the brand, does not look in particularly good condition but cheap
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Post# 874325 , Reply# 114   3/25/2016 at 04:03 (2,925 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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This looks like 1970s but the oven and micro are later,1990s I would say
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Post# 874332 , Reply# 115   3/25/2016 at 05:31 (2,925 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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That's a very nice Poggenpohl kitchen, I like the high upper cabinets/cupboards. The Bosch oven is indeed from the early nineties (or perhaps very late eighties). I bet it replaced a Neff oven! The Sharp microwave is from that era too. It looks like they might have done some remodeling to make place for the microwave. I wonder about the hobs though. They look like they are from two different brands or perhaps series, but I don't recognise them. Do you know what they are Alistair?
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Post# 874334 , Reply# 116   3/25/2016 at 05:50 (2,925 days old) by Sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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No outlet hose by the looks of it but I love the blue on these models
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Post# 874335 , Reply# 117   3/25/2016 at 05:52 (2,925 days old) by Sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 874336 , Reply# 118   3/25/2016 at 06:01 (2,925 days old) by Sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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The last version of this set up. No bridging piece by the looks of it
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Post# 874337 , Reply# 119   3/25/2016 at 06:04 (2,925 days old) by Sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 874338 , Reply# 120   3/25/2016 at 06:07 (2,925 days old) by Sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 874340 , Reply# 121   3/25/2016 at 06:10 (2,925 days old) by Sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 874345 , Reply# 122   3/25/2016 at 07:21 (2,925 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)   |   | |
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In reply #67 pic 5 what is the box in the counter for? I see that it pulls out also. JOn |
Post# 874613 , Reply# 123   3/27/2016 at 16:08 (2,922 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 874781 , Reply# 124   3/29/2016 at 07:56 (2,921 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I have posted a few of the Morphy Richards versions of these mixers - this is the Krups version - there were other brands of this same machine throughout Europe too. Mid 1970s I would say
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Post# 874782 , Reply# 125   3/29/2016 at 07:58 (2,921 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 874783 , Reply# 126   3/29/2016 at 08:03 (2,921 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Well maybe not NIB but not far off it - from mid 1960s - its the predecessor model to the one just above
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Post# 874784 , Reply# 127   3/29/2016 at 08:05 (2,921 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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From the 1970s you can see the design similarities with the 1970s Chefette. This was quite a small model, they had a larger model that was more use
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Post# 874788 , Reply# 128   3/29/2016 at 08:09 (2,921 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I don't know when this is from but the styling of the instructions says 1980s to me
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Post# 874789 , Reply# 129   3/29/2016 at 08:14 (2,921 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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This time with some vintage appliances too. May possibly be later English Rose, not sure, but it must have been expensive in its day. The original oven was almost certainly Tricity by the size of the oven cavity. The Sholtes hob (French) was very popular as a split level in the 1970s
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Post# 874841 , Reply# 130   3/29/2016 at 14:42 (2,920 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 874842 , Reply# 131   3/29/2016 at 14:45 (2,920 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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In Essex.
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Post# 874844 , Reply# 132   3/29/2016 at 14:47 (2,920 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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The second time round for this well used kitchen. Last time it started at £500, the seller is still being very optimistic at £350
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Post# 874845 , Reply# 133   3/29/2016 at 14:56 (2,920 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Another optimistic seller although it is somewhat offset by the inclusion of oven and hob and hood. Unusually they are all from different suppliers. The kitchen itself is no great shakes, and not of exceptional quality. I would say mid to late 1970s
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Post# 874847 , Reply# 134   3/29/2016 at 15:00 (2,920 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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This is the companion hob to the oven from the mid 1970s - its gimmick was that the lid dropped flush to the work top with the hob dropping down as the lid closed. Of course the lid made a splash back, its no great shakes otherwise as it does not even have a dual ring never mind simmerstat - its expensive for its condition now.
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Post# 874848 , Reply# 135   3/29/2016 at 15:04 (2,920 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Mid 1980s - as common at the time the grill/small oven was now above the main oven - Tricity went the same way, Creda always used that layout. At least the price is right to start
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Post# 874849 , Reply# 136   3/29/2016 at 15:18 (2,920 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 874850 , Reply# 137   3/29/2016 at 15:24 (2,920 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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If that kitchen had been in blue I would have found it hard to resist :) I think you may be right about the Neff oven, around this time they produced a double oven with two full size ovens, the controls where located between the two ovens rather than at the top - that would explain the very large aperture which looks bigger even than that for a Tricity oven (which is 1200mm). Sharp eyes too on the domino hob units - the large griddle plate has a white knob which is much earlier than the others which look like (later) Neff. The hood could also be original to the kitchen as Neff used this style from at least the mid 1970s when I presume this kitchen dates from. Did you notice there is a Moulinex can opener there too? |
Post# 874851 , Reply# 138   3/29/2016 at 15:26 (2,920 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 874857 , Reply# 139   3/29/2016 at 16:42 (2,920 days old) by triumphdolomite (Staffs(UK))   |   | |
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One of the rarer Debonairs. Al Not too far from you either! Ian CLICK HERE TO GO TO triumphdolomite's LINK on eBay |
Post# 874951 , Reply# 140   3/30/2016 at 08:20 (2,920 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 875054 , Reply# 141   3/30/2016 at 21:42 (2,919 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 875077 , Reply# 142   3/31/2016 at 02:31 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 875078 , Reply# 143   3/31/2016 at 02:35 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Interesting that its branded Pilot, might be an exclusive although there does not seem to be anything that exclusive to my eyes - moulded on MR plug would enhance the value - this must be late 1970s or early 1980s - near the end of the production run of an iron largely unchanged, apart from styling, from the early 1960s
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Post# 875079 , Reply# 144   3/31/2016 at 02:38 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Don't know a great deal about Best products, they also produced toasters, kettles and percolators. I would say this is 1970s although the style looks older - not produced in UK I would say.
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Post# 875080 , Reply# 145   3/31/2016 at 02:42 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 875081 , Reply# 146   3/31/2016 at 02:48 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Looks like it was well cared for - late 1960s early 1970s
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Post# 875082 , Reply# 147   3/31/2016 at 02:52 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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not seen one like this before and unusual to see the fuse (for the 15 amp socket) so prominently displayed. If it is 1930s then it is VERY late 30s, more like 1940s I would say
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Post# 875083 , Reply# 148   3/31/2016 at 02:53 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 875084 , Reply# 149   3/31/2016 at 02:56 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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More modern, more generic and less distinction. If the oven is anything to go by early 2000s
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Post# 875085 , Reply# 150   3/31/2016 at 03:01 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 875086 , Reply# 151   3/31/2016 at 03:12 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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A long lost piece of office technology - what is it?
A comptometer. I should say that when I entered the world of commerce in 1977 even then these machines were on the way out and it was only from older colleagues I learned how to use these - there was a very specific art to it and the operators received specific training using 10 fingers almost simultaneously. In larger companies there would have been rooms of these machines (rather like a typing pool) doing additions all the day long. This art largely disappeared in the 1960s and 1970s as computers (mainframes not PCs) became more affordable. I never heard of this brand before, I was more familiar with the Sumlock models and in my first job they had an electronic Burroughs model More information on this link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comptomete... and on their operation www.vintagecalculators.com/html/o... CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK on eBay |
Post# 875087 , Reply# 152   3/31/2016 at 03:23 (2,919 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I knew I had forgotten something.
Back up the thread there was a query raised about the third knob on the Neff Pinstripe oven. The left knob was for the temperature of the main (fan) oven. The centre knob for the lower conventional oven and grill (broiler). At the time I was not sure about the left knob which I thought was to select the type of heat in the smaller oven. This proved to be the case and was largely as I stated above - choosing top only, bottom only heat and broiler. In the "off" position you get both top and bottom heat in the lower oven. Older versions of this oven have a 4th knob - I think this may have been for a self cleaning version of this oven |
Post# 875124 , Reply# 153   3/31/2016 at 11:56 (2,919 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 875204 , Reply# 156   4/1/2016 at 06:16 (2,918 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Ian
One of these then :) I never used one of these myself having been "raised" on more conventional adding machines (and I have a good turn of speed as long as I don't think about the numbers or look at the keys) but was shown their operation by members of staff who used to use them - these were in the bakeries I worked in from 1981 to 1989. In the first bakery there were a couple of them, they were on small trolleys almost the exact size of the machine which could be pulled over beside the desk when needed. In the second bakery there was just the one which was only very seldom used. In both bakeries these (and quite a few more) machines where used to do the tabulations for the daily baking requirements although they had been replaced in the mid 1970s by computers - (both ICL 2903) which, although hugely expensive at the time, resulted in considerable cost savings in terms of staff and improved information flow - we are not talking PCs here but machines that filled entire air-conditioned rooms, although a modern PC would have for more processing power than they did. It is not widely known that a bakery chain (J Lyons, as in Lyons Corner Houses and "nippies") was one of the major pioneers in the application of computerised information systems in the immediate post WW2 period. A word about the "doubling up" you mention. From the picture above one can see that each register (units, 10s, 100s, 1000s etc) goes from 1 - 9. However, as a time saving technique it was possible for the hand never to go above 5 - if one wanted to enter the number 7 for example rather than move physically move the hand up to the number 7 the same result could be achieved by pressing the numbers 4 and 3 sequentially, for 8 it would be 4 and again 4 - this technique could be applied was across all the registers - although it might sound complicated, it proved to be second nature to those trained in its use. I once saw a small "portable" comp. (these were by no means light weight) which only had keys for each register from 1 - 5 - it was only when doubling up was explained to me that I understood how this worked. I am the first to acknowledge the power and cost effectiveness of modern PC accounting based systems but I do feel some sadness as the passing of some earlier technologies and the skilled people who used them. Al
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