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Post# 874100   3/23/2016 at 18:27 (939 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Looks like LG needs to improve whatever diverter system they are using on that machine. It doesn't seem to know what it wants to do: spray the bottom rack? Spray the top rack? Oh, let's just spray one rack but make sure enough water escapes the other spray arm so that too little pressure can build up and the water jets won't reach the tub's ceiling.

Post# 874102 , Reply# 1   3/23/2016 at 18:33 (939 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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How sad.  



Post# 874103 , Reply# 2   3/23/2016 at 18:36 (939 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
I just saw the video...

And needless to say, I was very disappointed. The spray didn't sound powerful.

Post# 874104 , Reply# 3   3/23/2016 at 18:36 (939 days old) by NeptuneGuy27 (Baltimore,MD)        

Oy! That is pathetic! The middle arm couldn't even reach the top of the tub. My new Bosch scours the top of the tub with the lower spray arm. I cannot imagine anything getting clean in that DW.


Post# 874109 , Reply# 4   3/23/2016 at 19:00 (939 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Shockingly Sad

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for even a modern dishwasher -

Andrew's new Total coverage Whirlpool is MILES better than this thing. I mean, seriously....How in the living hell is anything going to get clean in that? I've heard people say these newer dishwashers merely pee on dishes, but this takes the cake..

Post# 874128 , Reply# 5   3/23/2016 at 21:32 (939 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)        

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Wow that's the most pathetic modern dw I've seen.

Post# 874130 , Reply# 6   3/23/2016 at 21:44 (939 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
spray power

My 2007 Whirlpool Gold tall tub point voyager has more spray power than this lg ever will! I mean, this could be good for soaking. But for washing dishes? Forget it.

Post# 874131 , Reply# 7   3/23/2016 at 21:48 (939 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        

You can tell that the lg put so little water in the basin, yet rated it as a powerful dishwasher. I don't know about you, but I think lg should at least learn from the big boys like Frigidaire, GE, Maytag or Whirlpool. Just saying.

Post# 874201 , Reply# 8   3/24/2016 at 11:43 (939 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) didn't rate my Maytag 2014

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or the newer Maytag's good at all, yet they are much more powerful than this thing...

The LG clothes washers look like they do a good job.....but this? Sigh

I wish they wouldn't speed up the video though

Post# 874220 , Reply# 9   3/24/2016 at 13:41 (939 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
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still pre-rinses everything. So they will likely sing this machine's praises.

Sad, really.


Post# 874223 , Reply# 10   3/24/2016 at 13:57 (939 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Looks like the upper wash arm was installed upside down.  I see more spraying going down toward the bottom rack than going up. 

Post# 874244 , Reply# 11   3/24/2016 at 15:57 (939 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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I could pee with more pressure than that, and I'm old with aging pipes.

Post# 874247 , Reply# 12   3/24/2016 at 16:05 (939 days old) by Roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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...could you do it for three-and-a-half hours? ;-)

Post# 874266 , Reply# 13   3/24/2016 at 17:26 (938 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
I'd like to...

If I had the chance, I'd like to test either my mom's Kenmore or my dad's Whirlpool dishwasher against this lg. The last time I started my dad's whirlpool with the door open, water shot across the room. I bet you can somehow start the lg dishwasher with the door open.

Post# 874291 , Reply# 14   3/24/2016 at 19:44 (938 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
could you do it for three-and-a-half hours?

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Sometimes it seems that long.  Sometimes I just sit because I get tired.

Post# 874398 , Reply# 15   3/25/2016 at 15:43 (938 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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Yes they suck bad.. My Dad has one and it has the variable speed motor and everything..The strange thing is that in normal wash the motor speeds up big time than it does in heavy wash..It cleans better in normal wash high heat and sanitize than in Heavy.. I use it like a Old Maytag plates on top and pots on bottom.. There not that great at washing my Smeg out cleans it by a long shot.. I don't know if it's because,the wash arms are so odd or cause there so many in that strange machine which I have to give credit to

that Smeg is a fantastic dishwasher...

Post# 874468 , Reply# 16   3/26/2016 at 03:08 (937 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

After watching the film--WON'T buy an LG-washing dishes in the sink is better than that thing-Whats with the toy duck and frog?

Post# 874647 , Reply# 17   3/27/2016 at 21:36 (935 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        

LG so-called powerful dishwasher? I'm sorry. I'd rather take a GE, Kitchenaid, Maytag or Whirlpool over this. I don't prerinse, and I don't plan on doing so. You're gonna need a powerful dishwasher detergent and rinse aid and then some. That explains why lg dishwashers don't clean let alone wash dishes!

Post# 874678 , Reply# 18   3/28/2016 at 07:19 (935 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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Just need to stop trying to build DWs, they are just overly complicated unreliable so-so performing junk.


We see them on the scrap pipes constantly often less than 5 years old.

Post# 874680 , Reply# 19   3/28/2016 at 07:32 (935 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Nearly five years ago, a sales guy at Sears told me LG couldn't decide whether they wanted to build a dishwasher with a filter or a disposer.  They'd had some troubles with the LG models and he wouldn't sell one unless the customer insisted over his attempts at steering them toward another brand.  

A customer of mine bought one of the first LG models on the US market back in '07.  She loved the racking,  the huge capacity and cleaning was excellent.  The first repair came at about the one year mark, LG replaced the entire pump assembly w/motor after a two week wait for the parts and then it sat for another two weeks while a sump seal was ordered and arrived.  It worked for another 2 years well enough and then needed a pump/motor replacement again.  Toward the end of it's 4th year of useful life, an electronic board went out and they ditched the machine for a Bosch.


Our member, Frigilux, had an LG (second or third generation?) that he really liked the performance of, but was that the machine that leaked and caused damage?  Maybe he'll chime in here with the history of his machine.


Post# 874681 , Reply# 20   3/28/2016 at 07:51 (935 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Here's another model with a different sump. This one doesn't seem to have the problem with the leaking spray arms.

Post# 874702 , Reply# 21   3/28/2016 at 10:58 (935 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)        

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Well that's better I guess.

IDK if I'd even still touch it.

LG reminds me in a way how United Airlines wants instead to be an IT company that happens to have planes.
Yeah that's working out real well.....

Same with LG, and especially Samsung; electronics companies that think they can make "durable goods" that involve copious amounts of water and electricity.

Adorable (pats them on the head)

Post# 874708 , Reply# 22   3/28/2016 at 11:58 (935 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Fly AA John! I'll give you a cookie... ;-)

LG/Samsung both seem so gimicky to me. I used an LG front loader for 2 years and it worked great so I won't say much about them. But they are a lot of flash and that's about it.

I mean how complicated can a dishwasher be? Older ones basically just sprayed water all over the place and they cleaned. Maybe because of more water...but there are so many "branded" features these days. It's like a guy with a little wanker wearing fancy clothes and driving a big truck. He still has a little wanker...I mean seriously. :-/

Post# 874711 , Reply# 23   3/28/2016 at 12:46 (935 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
But their FL washers

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are not bad (not speaking of longevity) - but I've seen them and they seem to be really good.....

So they are able to make decent washers but they can't make dishwashers? I don't get it.

That last video is MILES better than the first one.

Post# 874717 , Reply# 24   3/28/2016 at 13:27 (935 days old) by Murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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Even in that demo cube, the spray is lethargic. I can't help but wonder if these are some of the "HE" dishwashers that have given modern machines such a terrible reputation. My new Whirlpool uses a third of the water shown in the videos, has a tiny pump, and yet has torrents of water spraying from its arms. I frequently have light plastic cups and containers being flipped on the top rack, and I thought that with this machine I wouldn't have to worry about glass bowls clinking on the bottom rack like I used to have in the PC and Voyager, but I still have to stop and rearrange because of it in this new machine. I still have yet to have any issue with leftover soils or a dirty filter, and still have no grime buildup or smells at all, and that's with primarily using the Normal cycle.

Post# 874722 , Reply# 25   3/28/2016 at 14:46 (935 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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Joey no worries, I've been on team AA since mid 2012.

Mark you're right on that with the washers. My aunts have an LG FL pair, and they love it. Not a single repair yet.

They too were warned by even the sales staff at Best Buy that repair parts could be hard to come by. But that Best Buy themselves were stocking LG and Samsung parts. So if they had any issues, to call them first.
(Could be well intentioned, or their chance to make repair money)

Post# 874829 , Reply# 26   3/29/2016 at 13:37 (934 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I heard that used to be the case with LG when they first started becoming the LG major appliance name in the USA. I think they were called something else before that and weren't as well known? But now that years have passed now, I heard that the finding parts things wasn't nearly as much of an issue as it once was? I dunno. I could be wrong. I've never owned an LG appliance, and that was one of the main reasons because of what you wrote, I had always heard.....but I've also read other people say that same thing in comments sections on the internet, only to have ANOTHER person comment saying the opposite (that they can find LG parts pretty easily. So I dunno?

Post# 874833 , Reply# 27   3/29/2016 at 13:59 (934 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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Maybe you're right.
Maybe it's different now and the fact that parts are more prevalent now, that they've been here longer, maybe it's not as much an issue anymore.

Post# 977653 , Reply# 28   1/9/2018 at 15:02 (283 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
My brand new Kenmore...

My brand new Kenmore can do lightyears better than this "dishwasher"! Seriously? LG needs to learn from the big guys like Kenmore, Whirlpool, Frigidaire, and GE! Of course, Kenmore is made by Whirlpool. What a disgrace! ARG!!!!

Post# 977753 , Reply# 29   1/10/2018 at 10:47 (282 days old) by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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I wonder if the reason for the lacklustre spray arm performance is possibly part of the pre-rinse cycle?

I know that my Bosch dishwasher, and my mum's Bosch dishwasher during the pre-rinse, both machines supply water to all spray arms for a moderate time. It sounds a little lethargic, but I think the reason is to soak the load thoroughly to detect if a water top-up is required.

Then, the diverter valve flips and the stronger sprays are sent to the baskets alternately. I've noticed on my mum's machine that the bottom spray arm sounds even more intense during the wash phase, than it is during pre-rinse - even when that arm is working alone during pre-rinsing.

Final rinse in both machines is of the lethargic type - I wish the load was blasted properly.

Post# 977802 , Reply# 30   1/10/2018 at 19:26 (281 days old) by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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I have an LG dishwasher, not this particular model, but the LDF 5545. The first prerinse is like this and yes it does look weak, but there is a reason for it, not to overload the filtration system. In my machine there are 4 prerinses before the main wash. In the 3rd and 4th prerinses the wash motor ramps up speed and scours each rack alternating between racks. The main wash uses a low, medium and high pressures The low pressure sprays the dishes and lets the detergent soak into the soils on the items in the load, then the dishwasher ramps up pump speed and then washes each rack at medium pressure. In the middle of the wash cycle the pump stops and ramps up pressure to the max and then scours the hell out of everything in the load. Mine has the Quad Wash arm and the arms sweep in a counterclockwise movement. The water reaches to the ceiling of the tank with quite a bit of force.
The top video is not how these dishwashers operate all the time.

Post# 977811 , Reply# 31   1/10/2018 at 20:05 (281 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0700 CDT.))        
What the hell does that thing think it's doing?

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Post# 977814 , Reply# 32   1/10/2018 at 20:14 (281 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0700 CDT.))        
Last post was from the commercial dishmachine side:

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Here's how a home DW should behave if it works properly. Part 2

CLICK HERE TO GO TO whirlykenmore78's LINK

Post# 977845 , Reply# 33   1/11/2018 at 05:48 (281 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Where's that curtain between the Wash and Rinse section ? I know you took it out for the vid.

I'll have to upload the vid of the Cle at the Golf Club.

Post# 977846 , Reply# 34   1/11/2018 at 05:58 (281 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Cle 44 at the Golf Club. Finally changed the Chemicals and the machine is much better.

Post# 977935 , Reply# 35   1/11/2018 at 22:37 (280 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0700 CDT.))        
That's actually not my video Eddie:

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No way in hell I could bring a camera into the prison. I found it on YT. Still amazingly strong wash action and build for a modern dishmachine. I'm glad you got the chemicals sorted out on this machine. I have found they do an excellent job of washing and rinsing but it does require the proper chemistry. I know several Ecolab guys who hated these machines until they got to understand how they worked and set their products accordingly. We currently use Solid Power XL and Rinse Dry in our machine.

Post# 978043 , Reply# 36   1/12/2018 at 20:59 (279 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        

Seriously! My Kenmore 13222 made by Whirlpool cleans better than this "dishwasher"! Really? I would never ever, ever, ever buy an LG after what I saw!

Post# 978098 , Reply# 37   1/13/2018 at 09:28 (279 days old) by Real1 (Eastern WA)        

As for the comment about Vikings....nothing over two stars:




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