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Thread Number: 64821
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
STILL looking for AFFORDABLE front loading washer & dryer with no electronics. |
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| Post# 874764 , Reply# 1 3/29/2016 at 03:34 (2,948 days old) by brucelucenta () | ||
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Nope. In my opinion you should get a low priced electronic control model and hope for the best. The electronic controls seem to be holding up fairly well on them. | ||
Post# 874765 , Reply# 2 3/29/2016 at 03:56 (2,948 days old) by henene4  (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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A nice LG with heater maybe. They have a few tricks to read out the water temperature in the drum, they seem to handle changing cycles ok, and have lots of options, which makes it the closest to Mix\Match cycle design. | ||
| Post# 874774 , Reply# 3 3/29/2016 at 07:15 (2,948 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
Howzbout $100 plus a hard day's drive here and back (after the snow melts)?
1998 Frigidaire-badge Electrolux clockwork timer. 18 years single-person use. No service needed or pending. Never had the 'stink' problem often attributed to FLs (all bets off if you put LFS in it). Does not 'dumb down' hot water selection. 4 fill and 1 spray rinse. Seldom (not 'never') has a balance problem. Bidirex wash, 600rpm rinse spin, 800rpm final (motor module is electronic, PWM/tach brush DC). | ||
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Post# 874776 , Reply# 4 3/29/2016 at 07:36 (2,948 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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A new $600 Front Load Washer? Hi When you find it I am looking for a new car for $6000 that is not computerized, LOL.
I am also looking for the perfect Husband, and presidential candidate.
But I am afraid that the best washer for you would be a SQ FL washer with the rear controls and mechanical dials. Model AFN50RSP
$1397.00 In our area, the matching dryer is much less expensive @ ADE3SRGS $723.00 | ||
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Post# 874806 , Reply# 5 3/29/2016 at 11:25 (2,948 days old) by tennblondie78 (Bowling Green, KY) |
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I'm sorry to say, but if you want a set with no electronics (or a FL in your price range), it will not be new. It will also not be front loading unless you get a very old Westinghouse or Bendix. What you want is a unicorn; it doesn't exist in the new appliance market. You will have to make some choices. If you must have mechanical controls and stay under $600, it will be a top loader. If you must have a front load, it will be electronic and over $600 if you require a new one.
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Post# 874810 , Reply# 6 3/29/2016 at 11:43 (2,948 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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 What we need here is further elaboration on whether the controls have to be entirely analog, or if they just need to be something other than a smooth touchpad. There are FL machines out there that have knobs and dials, but the actual execution of the desired functions is electronically controlled. That's likely the best you're going to get without paying through the nose for a less-evolved Speed Queen. | ||
| Post# 874815 , Reply# 7 3/29/2016 at 12:02 (2,948 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK) | ||
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Buy this and have it gone over by a Speed Queen shop and you'll hopefully be good to go for the cost you want with delivery and installation. don't know if it's gas or not. There is also a gas SQ dryer for $50 on Craigslist Denver that could be used for parts to convert this machine. denver.craigslist.org/for/5507461... post was last edited: 3/29/2016-17:06] CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK on Denver Craigslist | ||
| Post# 874832 , Reply# 8 3/29/2016 at 13:58 (2,948 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
 These guys speak the truth..I have been a member here way over ten years ,so has John(combo52) and Ralph(rp2813) and many many more..We have owned just for the hell of it machines that were rare and different and you would do good taking there advice.Front loaders were rare here until Maytag came out with the quasi- Front loader but it was still electronic in a lot of ways. Electronics are way more dependable in most areas than anything else..They fly planes,make your car run,Etc.. S.Q. machines are by far one of the best machines out there unless you want to mortgage your house for a commercial machine but,even they will have electronics in them. For your budget I would get a Top load Speed Queen..They wash wonderful and will last a long long time.. My Mom bought a G.E. Harmony washer and dryer T/L in 2004 and it is touch pad only both of them and they have never had one thing break on them and it's made by L.G. I had a 1990s Frigidaire Front loader that was tiny and was a great machine and even though small I could pack it and it would clean great but I think that was made buy Bosch.. Every Large F/L for the U.S. market seems to leak or does not use enough water and then there is mold issues but I would trust a S.Q.Purely mechanical washers,dryers,dishwashers are going away because, it is far cheaper for a computer to run it..I have a Raspberry P.I. that is a total computer I got for 40 bucks new that could run a laundry mat full of washers..
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Post# 874835 , Reply# 9 3/29/2016 at 14:03 (2,948 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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Here's a working link to the Denver stacked pair. I think they're close to what you're looking for, although the dryer is not gas. CLICK HERE TO GO TO rp2813's LINK on Denver Craigslist | ||
| Post# 874839 , Reply# 10 3/29/2016 at 14:33 (2,948 days old) by agitatorboogie (Denver) | ||
oh geez....what timing | ||
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Post# 874892 , Reply# 11 3/29/2016 at 19:51 (2,948 days old) by Jmm63 (Denville, NJ) |
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 How about these. Yes, electronics but I have a similar set that is 7 years old and never a problem with them. They wash well, have a relatively short cycle time and you can't beat the price! CLICK HERE TO GO TO Jmm63's LINK | ||
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Post# 874929 , Reply# 12 3/30/2016 at 02:51 (2,947 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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if it helps, I have a magic Chef 1.6 cu ft washer... It's affordable, unfortunately it has electronic controls, but i could se that little washer was really well built. What shocked me the most is that it doesn't have the dumb down ATC. When you select hot, it means hot, not evena drop of cold. and guess what... the cold adds some hot water if the water is too cold. It spins ok (very well by the way) and if it lasts for 2 or 3 years it paid itself because it was cheap. | ||
| Post# 875096 , Reply# 14 3/31/2016 at 07:36 (2,946 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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Yeh, ElectroFrigiWhiteMore FLs from the 90s weren't bulletproof like a 1980 Kenmore wigwag TL. One from a family of 6 may likelier-than-not be on its last legs. But straightforward mechanical designs with clockwork timers are very hard to come by these days.
Electronic controls got a bad reputation early on. They were woefully underdesigned for their operating environment, failed regularly/expensively, and really didn't do anything that clockwork timers didn't. Except for the last part (which I consider largely frivolous), I'm not convinced they're substantially better now. But I'm a skeptic-squared. And I've somehow *gasp* managed to launder for 60 years without the "assistance" of a computer that thinks it's smarter than I am. As in, "when you set the water to 'hot' you can't possibly really mean it". It's been a couple weeks so I don't remember exactly, but I visited an appliance store lately and they had a Speedqueen with clockwork timer. Believe it was a toploader. It was at least $900. Nothing in the whole dam store was less than that. But even at a price you really don't like ('likeable' prices are kinda 70s) it may be the best longterm value. At least it's not a 'rule-the-world' Whirltag which seems to have absorbed all American brands. | ||
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Post# 875319 , Reply# 16 4/2/2016 at 09:58 (2,944 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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A few thoughts There's 'electronics' and then, there's 'electronics'. Nearly all the bad electronics involve two things: Cheap components, poorly put together (Maytag Neptunes, some, not all Whirlpool Duets) Using logic circuits to just barely keep poorly built components more or less working until the day after the warranty expires. AEG in Germany pulled that stunt a few decades back and it hurt them so badly they never really recovered their reputation.
There's no reason to put up with that at any price.
There is, however, another set of electronics and that's the well-built and very reliable circuitry and logic which makes it possible for a front-loader to be balanced at high-speed spins. Makes 3-phase motors possible. This sort is probably not what bothers you and has been in use in many washers with very few problems since the 1970s.
If you're in the $600 range, it shouldn't be hard to find a dealer who sells refurbished Electrolux/GE/Frigidaire/Kenmore machines of about 1998-2003 or even basic Miele front loaders which restrict the electronics to useful functions. Gas - I'd definitely go with an American machine unless you absolutely have to stack them. The European gas FLs are horrifically expensive for what you get.
If you already mentioned this, sorry, I missed it - is your objection to electronics the nonsense controls we all hate or the internal systems? | ||
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