Thread Number: 65096
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A KitchenAid Patrician Brooklyn Bound... |
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Post# 877147   4/15/2016 at 02:48 (2,926 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Thanks to an ad posting from Phil, and for Mark being so kind picking it up for me, I am now the proud owner of a KitchenAid KDP-20 Patrician.
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Post# 877148 , Reply# 1   4/15/2016 at 02:53 (2,926 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 877149 , Reply# 2   4/15/2016 at 02:55 (2,926 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 877154 , Reply# 3   4/15/2016 at 05:47 (2,926 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 877159 , Reply# 4   4/15/2016 at 06:30 (2,926 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 877168 , Reply# 5   4/15/2016 at 07:49 (2,926 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 877169 , Reply# 6   4/15/2016 at 07:50 (2,926 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 877192 , Reply# 7   4/15/2016 at 13:28 (2,926 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)   |   | |
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Post# 877197 , Reply# 8   4/15/2016 at 14:26 (2,926 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )   |   | |
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Post# 877286 , Reply# 9   4/16/2016 at 00:42 (2,925 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 877602 , Reply# 10   4/18/2016 at 21:27 (2,923 days old) by william637 (Damp pants? Not a chance. )   |   | |
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Do you need help with that? It sounds like an AWFULLY BIG PROJECT to me. Just sayin....
You will be happy to know that your dishwasher is very cozy with some friends. My front bedroom now has like six dishwashers in it. Anytime anyone comes over to spend the night they just roll their eyes. I expect the show hoarders to be knocking on my door any day now... |
Post# 877622 , Reply# 11   4/18/2016 at 23:15 (2,923 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 877809 , Reply# 12   4/19/2016 at 22:43 (2,922 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 877850 , Reply# 13   4/20/2016 at 04:26 (2,921 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 877921 , Reply# 14   4/20/2016 at 15:18 (2,921 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 877925 , Reply# 15   4/20/2016 at 15:53 (2,921 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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I sent you something that may help. It's not the best scan but the opening dimensions are on there. It looks like it wants a minimum of 24 1/4. Depending how low you put the pipe you should be OK.
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Post# 877972 , Reply# 16   4/20/2016 at 20:27 (2,921 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 878032 , Reply# 17   4/21/2016 at 07:21 (2,920 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Louie, you need 24"in depth for this and most US DWs, many European DWs are only 22" deep however.
One neat thing about KA DWs from this time period is you can install them freestanding and attach sides and top as desired because of the DWs full frame construction, you may not really need a cabinet, sometimes this really helps if you have a tight space. |
Post# 878066 , Reply# 18   4/21/2016 at 12:02 (2,920 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 892680 , Reply# 19   8/5/2016 at 22:38 (2,814 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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An update to the title: A KitchenAid KDS-20 is Brooklyn Bound...
Why? Because I'm picking this up on Sunday:
Thanks Eddie! CLICK HERE TO GO TO Ultramatic's LINK on Capecod Craigslist |
Post# 892681 , Reply# 20   8/5/2016 at 22:49 (2,814 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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What happened to the KDP? Well Mark was about to drop it off to me on his way up north (I could just squeeze him to pieces for being so kind), but I ran across this ad that Eddie (Toploader55) had posted and , well, it's a Superba, I couldn't resist. So I gave my KDP to Mark (the very least I could do) and now my spouse and I are Cape Cod bound. Other than the mold on the upper lip of the wash tub, it certainly looks like what the seller described. It's not a a terribly long drive (about 5 hrs from Brooklyn, one way) but boy is my butt gonna be sore come Monday morning. Stay tuned! |
Post# 892682 , Reply# 21   8/5/2016 at 23:12 (2,814 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 892939 , Reply# 23   8/7/2016 at 20:16 (2,812 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Well it's finally in Brooklyn. What a drive. Going was a piece a cake, but oh coming back on I-95 was brutal. When I got there, the KA was still installed. But the seller got it out and it wasn't easy. There was no hot water hose connected to the dishwasher, it was a copper pipe. I had never seen someone do that kind on installation. It also meant it hasn't been moved since installed. Underneath was pristine, clean as a whistle. In fact, I was amazed how clean it was on the sides and top. The insulation looked perfect. There was some mold and light grime in the tub, but it, and the racks looked great. I didn't see any rust first hand, except a light rust spot on the filter. According to the seller, it was his parents machine. It was used twice a week, six months of the year since new. It was last used 2 years ago. I'll be posting pictures soon. |
Post# 892941 , Reply# 24   8/7/2016 at 20:47 (2,812 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 893063 , Reply# 25   8/8/2016 at 19:55 (2,811 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 893266 , Reply# 27   8/9/2016 at 22:58 (2,810 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 893271 , Reply# 28   8/9/2016 at 23:57 (2,810 days old) by Goblues15 (manchester)   |   | |
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By far my favorite dishwasher. Never had a dirty dish come out of the KA Still hunting for the rare stainless front version |
Post# 893288 , Reply# 29   8/10/2016 at 05:58 (2,809 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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some newer dishwashers only do "rinsed only" at best. |
Post# 893326 , Reply# 30   8/10/2016 at 09:55 (2,809 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Louie, you should consider replacing the main shaft seal in the pump and maybe the inlet valve on a KA DW of this age. Save your time and effort about replacing any rubber hoses unless you find a problem with one, KAs weren't know for bad hoses during his time period and it will be difficult to get ones that are as good and fit properly.
KA KD19-23 DWs held lots of DWs, the racks were well designed, but I finally gave up on my KDSS-20 and moved it to its permanent place in the museum because of the often poor top rack cleaning in the top rack. There is just not enough water pressure in the top rack and like many DWs the corners of the top rack will not constantly clean tall glasses.
So what did I install ? A new GE DW which is worse that the KA in almost all respects, I never though that I would actually keep the GE, so it is actually just here till install the other Whirlpool DU8000XR from the late 80s. |
Post# 893415 , Reply# 31   8/10/2016 at 23:19 (2,809 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Thanks John. I was going to ask what preventive measures I can take before I install the KDS-19. On of the hoses show what may be a drip line. I'll probably run it only 2 or 3 times a week. So it may get even less use with me. To be honest, I am disappointed it's not a KDS-20 but this will suffice...for now. ;) I found a tiny dot of rust on top of one of the tines. What would be best, a cap or that special paint? |
Post# 893416 , Reply# 32   8/10/2016 at 23:21 (2,809 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 893417 , Reply# 33   8/10/2016 at 23:23 (2,809 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 893419 , Reply# 34   8/10/2016 at 23:47 (2,809 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 893436 , Reply# 35   8/11/2016 at 06:50 (2,808 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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KDS-19
I bought one of those Brand New for my house in Sandwich back in 1981. I thought it cleaned very well. The best drying results is on the Soak and Scrub Cycle. There is I believe 5 water heating sequences. 3 during the first Soak and Scrub portion, then the next water change, and the final rinse. I liked that machine. Sorry Louis... when I posted it I thought it was a 20 because you never see any 19s out there. |
Post# 893581 , Reply# 36   8/11/2016 at 20:47 (2,808 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 893659 , Reply# 37   8/12/2016 at 15:20 (2,807 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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somehow I find adding those caps on all the tines give it a neat uniform look.....and prevent future tip wear out on the others......and seem to grip/cushion dishware better than without....
even contrast the color scheme.....maybe bright white, or dark gray.... sometimes you might want to cut that tip off before sliding a cap over top.....just to eliminate the rust.... |
Post# 971335 , Reply# 38   12/3/2017 at 18:29 (2,329 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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