Thread Number: 65127
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
ORDER PLACED!!! NEW SQ FL SET! |
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Post# 877368   4/16/2016 at 19:22 (2,903 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Went to Warner's Stellian Appliance in Apple Valley MN with Wonderwife Katie today. I left the owner of a new SQ FL set. WOW I am so elated to have the BEST washer for home use ever. Katie said she had not seen me smile like that since our wedding. The beautiful Ladies will be delivered a week from Monday.
Of course I talked to the salesman about AW and vintage appliances in general. Here I am Beaming next to the display, these are the exact models I bought. WK78
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Post# 877370 , Reply# 1   4/16/2016 at 19:28 (2,903 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 877377 , Reply# 2   4/16/2016 at 20:44 (2,902 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 877378 , Reply# 3   4/16/2016 at 20:45 (2,902 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Is an under statement. These will outperform anything on the market today in every way possible rivaling many vintage brands. I have a Speed Queen topload washer going 3 years now, best decision I ever made. When the Whirlpool Dryer goes Speed Queen dryer is going in without a thought. And oh, CONGRATS!
BTW, what did the sales guy say about AW? |
Post# 877405 , Reply# 4   4/17/2016 at 06:57 (2,902 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Mark: They are very well built machines, Like tanks is a good description. That is the main reason I chose them. That and being American made. I will take pics and vids.
Yes Bob I will now have something other than a DD WP in my laundry room. I'm sure stranger things have happened. Chetlaham: Agreed across the board. The salesman was amazed that a group such as AW existed. He thought it was pretty cool though. WK78 |
Post# 877424 , Reply# 5   4/17/2016 at 09:36 (2,902 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 877425 , Reply# 6   4/17/2016 at 09:40 (2,902 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 877428 , Reply# 7   4/17/2016 at 10:07 (2,902 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Post# 877430 , Reply# 8   4/17/2016 at 11:14 (2,902 days old) by Lalie ()   |   | |
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I am saving up to buy those. Those would are my dream washer/dryer! Would you mind telling me how much the washer and dryer cost each? Also, how do they do with small loads and delicates? Thank you very much! |
Post# 877432 , Reply# 9   4/17/2016 at 11:29 (2,902 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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I personally see far too many benefits of having an onboard heater and it saves me money from having to keep the water heater at 140 degrees or more. My washer & dishwasher heat the water as needed. I cannot live any other way in an all electric house. My laundry is far cleaner and last longer like this thank keeping tank at 140 to 155 with the Lady Shredmore!! |
Post# 877447 , Reply# 10   4/17/2016 at 13:48 (2,902 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 877456 , Reply# 11   4/17/2016 at 15:03 (2,902 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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I finally took home a set, well, actually, I had a tough time deciding on whether to go FL or TL so I brought them both. |
Post# 877469 , Reply# 12   4/17/2016 at 18:02 (2,902 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Back in their early days of re-entering the domestic market. That model didn't last long and they haven't bothered since. Something therefore must have come up that made Alliance decide the addition of an onboard heater either wasn't required and or caused more trouble than it was worth I shouldn't wonder.
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Post# 877473 , Reply# 13   4/17/2016 at 18:43 (2,902 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 877478 , Reply# 14   4/17/2016 at 19:51 (2,901 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 877492 , Reply# 15   4/17/2016 at 21:36 (2,901 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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But perhaps since Alliance bases their "home style" domestic front loaders on the commercial Horizon design they didn't want the R&D and other costs by straying too far from that model. Do not think any of Alliance's SQ commercial washers offer internal heating elements. Connections for steam heating maybe....
My other guess is that SQ domestic washers historically have not gone too far off the commercial/laundromat course. They are designed and built to process laundry efficiently and quickly. Adding an internal water heater would increase cycle times if run off 120v power. SQ's earlier front loaders that had heaters only offered "Boosted Hot", which took hot water and made it hotter. Cannot recall if anyone actually ran them as a cold fill.... |
Post# 877613 , Reply# 18   4/18/2016 at 22:16 (2,900 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 877669 , Reply# 19   4/19/2016 at 07:31 (2,900 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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And when you consider that these could last over 50 years they may be the perfect purchase for a new couple.
Every day I am asked many times by customers what is the best new washer and I always answer a Speed Queen Front Load Washer first and work down from there to a SQ TL, WP built FL and even the higher end WP built TL machines, but NOTHING really can compare in overall life expectancy, easy to repair and great performance to these SQ FL washers.
Congratulations
John L. |
Post# 877670 , Reply# 20   4/19/2016 at 07:32 (2,900 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 877681 , Reply# 21   4/19/2016 at 08:51 (2,900 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 877684 , Reply# 22   4/19/2016 at 09:24 (2,900 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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BEST OF LUCK to everyone with their new Speed Queen washers and dryers!!! LOVE THE FRONT LOADER AND TOP LOADER!!! I would have a hard time choosing as well!!! Mike |
Post# 877759 , Reply# 23   4/19/2016 at 17:01 (2,900 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Where they offer a calculator to base the predicted lifespan of washer and compare with the previous unit.
For the record while SQ front loaders are very well built, the more loads you do per week or day will affect the lifespan. When I entered "four" loads per day as a test SQ came back that their current FL would only last between 5-10 years, IIRC. Now do not know what SQ means by these predicted lifespans. That is does it mean the units will need major repairs that may exceed the cost of a new unit? In the commercial laundry world washers are rebuilt all the time with things such as bearings replaced as needed. |
Post# 877777 , Reply# 24   4/19/2016 at 18:25 (2,900 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Mark, Commercial Quality FL Washers have always had a much longer life span than commercial versions of TL washers. A FL washer is just plain a lot simpler [ less than 1/4 the number of parts to wear out ] than an old school machine like a SQ or for that matter an OLD WP BD, A GE FF, or even a DC MT TLer.
It is also a whole lot easier to fix a SQ FL washer, even a bearing job is far easier to do than just a main seal and top bearing on a SQ TL Washer
I am also basing my claim on SQs own statements of longevity, when we trained on SQ Laundry appliances about 8 years ago the SQ trainers said that their FL machines had a design life of around 25,000 loads, SQ claims around 10,500 for their TL washers. [ And Miele claims around 10,000 for their washers, but you better have a separate bank account if you expect to keep a Miele washer running much past ten years to pay for parts and repairs ]
Overall in my appliance experiences over the last 50 years I have never seen a better built automatic washer built for home use and or one that would likely last longer than a current SQ FL washer.......... I can't even think of a wringer washer that would likely last as long.
John L. |
Post# 877785 , Reply# 25   4/19/2016 at 20:03 (2,899 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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I have run the numbers and a 25,000 load machine should last me a WHOPPING 48 YEARS DOING 10 LOADS PER WEEK! I will be buying a new washer when I am 85 years old according to Alliance.
If this was a coin metered version in a commercial laundromat doing21 loads per week it should STILL LAST 23 YEARS! I AM FLOORED by the quality of this machine. I KNOW I made the right decision. WK78 |
Post# 877799 , Reply# 26   4/19/2016 at 21:18 (2,899 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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In a commercial/laundromat that washer should be doing more than 21 loads per day. *LOL*
Cycle times on the SQ washers at our local are between 30 and 32 minutes. Place opens at 7AM and last wash is at 730PM. In a perfect world for any laundromat business their machines will turn at a steady constant clip. Otherwise the guy has machines that cost him money (and may be still if they are on credit) but not bringing in revenue. A take on European washers: www.ellenmacarthurfoundation.org/... |