Thread Number: 65894
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
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Post# 884412   6/10/2016 at 09:55 (2,874 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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No, not Margaret, or Alexander, how about this cute couple from Two Rivers, Wisconsin. Just a tease until I get back Sunday. All I'll say is that they are Hamilton 800's, lo milers, and are safely tucked away. |
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Post# 884416 , Reply# 1   6/10/2016 at 10:30 (2,874 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 884417 , Reply# 2   6/10/2016 at 10:39 (2,874 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 884419 , Reply# 3   6/10/2016 at 10:50 (2,874 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 884421 , Reply# 4   6/10/2016 at 10:59 (2,874 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 884429 , Reply# 5   6/10/2016 at 12:57 (2,874 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 884433 , Reply# 6   6/10/2016 at 13:35 (2,874 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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are they circa-1968 franklin built machines? :) |
Post# 884437 , Reply# 7   6/10/2016 at 13:59 (2,874 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)   |   | |
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Exceptional finds. Looking forward to seeing videos and hearing more info! John |
Post# 884438 , Reply# 8   6/10/2016 at 14:10 (2,874 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 884439 , Reply# 9   6/10/2016 at 14:17 (2,874 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 884446 , Reply# 10   6/10/2016 at 15:23 (2,874 days old) by maytagmike (Burlington, Vt)   |   | |
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Post# 884457 , Reply# 11   6/10/2016 at 17:26 (2,874 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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It seemed to me that after the famous 1969 issue of Consumer Reports that featured and rated the greatest variety of independent brands that I've witnessed, a huge number of them went extinct or were assimilated into the WCI collection of crap. Hamilton was one of these brands. The dryers have a respectable heritage but I know nothing about the washers. Can't wait to see more pictures and hear how they operate. That money shot is remarkable in many ways.
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Post# 884474 , Reply# 12   6/10/2016 at 19:02 (2,874 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 884490 , Reply# 13   6/10/2016 at 21:06 (2,874 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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By the fact it was the inventor of modern domestic clothes dryers who basically helped found the company. In those early days Hamilton could do no wrong as the USA and other markets were starved for the new invention.
Sadly for them Hamilton didn't have the same marketing and production power as the larger appliance makers such as Whirlpool or Maytag, so by 1969 that was that. Even doing private label appliance for other brands still didn't help. To be fair by the 1ate 1960's into the 1970's and beyond until pretty much now the great heyday of American domestic appliances was shaking out. A wave of bankruptcies, mergers, closings, etc.. began that eventually saw Maytag merged with their long time rival, Whirlpool. www.flickr.com/photos/and... |
Post# 884494 , Reply# 14   6/10/2016 at 21:34 (2,874 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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I was thinking Blackstone as well, John. That tub ring and filter looks very Blackstone-y. I believe in 69, Hamilton's parent company (Hupp?) was bought by WCI and by 1970-71 the Hamilton dryer was gone completely and all WCI.
This dryer still looks all Hamilton built so that might put the washer squarely in the Blackstone era, though that time only lasted two or three years.
Here is an ad from about 1969-70 and you can see the WCI fronts of both washer and dryer but they kept the small dryer window, at least for a short time. I wonder how long the Hamilton name plate was kept in the WCI stable? Couldn't have been too much longer.
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Post# 884541 , Reply# 15   6/11/2016 at 07:23 (2,873 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 884573 , Reply# 16   6/11/2016 at 10:54 (2,873 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 884598 , Reply# 17   6/11/2016 at 15:29 (2,873 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)   |   | |
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Better view of the tub.
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Post# 884603 , Reply# 18   6/11/2016 at 15:53 (2,873 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 884625 , Reply# 19   6/11/2016 at 21:55 (2,873 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 884628 , Reply# 20   6/11/2016 at 22:29 (2,873 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 884639 , Reply# 21   6/12/2016 at 00:38 (2,872 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Make them earlier. 50s and early 60s. |
Post# 884701 , Reply# 22   6/12/2016 at 11:32 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Had a great weekend at the cottage, did some fishing, some drinking, and just general un-laxing! Nothing like Southwest Michigan, to regenerate the body and mind.....
Anyway, some more shots. All lit up. |
Post# 884702 , Reply# 23   6/12/2016 at 11:35 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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More of the washer. How does one tell the manufacturer? The dryer is Hamilton, but not sure on the washer. The fabric dispenser looks Whirlpool, but also Norge.
I never thought turquoise, and coppertone would work together. I still don't think so..... This post was last edited 06/12/2016 at 11:52 |
Post# 884703 , Reply# 24   6/12/2016 at 11:35 (2,872 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Kenny, thank you for all the photos. I would like to request if you can take photos of the control panels such that we can read all the wording and descriptions? I realize the panels are shiny and might have reflection issues. Also photos of the underside of the lid with the programe chart with cycle descriptions and options programmed into each of the cycles. I just noticed the cycle knob has numbers for each setting. Thank you. |
Post# 884704 , Reply# 25   6/12/2016 at 11:38 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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That fake woodgrain strip on the front just shouts quality and luxury, right? Porcelain on steel is always good. I don't see any scratches on either one. |
Post# 884705 , Reply# 26   6/12/2016 at 11:40 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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The control panels. I have no idea what the programmer does. Let me get a few more pictures. |
Post# 884707 , Reply# 27   6/12/2016 at 11:47 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Like I remember all the Hamiltons over the years. Galvanized steel drum, Sun E Day ozone lite.
Now the story, as I know it. These were in the basement of a quad level house on South Bend's west side. Average middle class neighborhood. There was an estate sale going on. Talked to the guy running the sale, he said the daughter of the owner told him that her mother didn't like using them, they were seldom used. She liked going to the laundromat, and meeting up with her friends there ! The dryer was still hooked up, but the washer was disconnected, looked like for quite a while. The fill hoses were still tied up. I made an offer, and took 'em home.
Anyone else have this washer or dryer? I'm curious as to the year of manufacture.
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Post# 884708 , Reply# 28   6/12/2016 at 11:58 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 884716 , Reply# 30   6/12/2016 at 12:58 (2,872 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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John could very well be right about Blackstone because Blackstone did make Hamilton solid tub washers in the mid 1960's. Blackstone washers of this era had ribs in the basket, it will be interesting to see for sure. They both look hardly used, it must be coppertone month! I would love to find a washer like that sometime to try out.
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Post# 884724 , Reply# 31   6/12/2016 at 13:43 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Not for the faint hearted! I am not exaggerating at all when I say this washer "looks" unused. What say the masses, as to manufacturer? Delco motor I believe. |
Post# 884730 , Reply# 32   6/12/2016 at 14:05 (2,872 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 884733 , Reply# 33   6/12/2016 at 14:34 (2,872 days old) by Gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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1967
Had the manual all along. Lol. It's interesting to see Hamilton sourcing their washers from Franklin and still building their own dryer. Perhaps it was an interim overlap just after WCI aquired them. I like the shocking bright blue inside a coppertone box, adds a cheerful lift to washday. |
Post# 884736 , Reply# 34   6/12/2016 at 14:44 (2,872 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 884743 , Reply# 35   6/12/2016 at 15:40 (2,872 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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GE motors usually have a date code stamped into the endbell along with the other specs-I'll check some of my spare GE motors to see how the date code is configured :)Will be interesting to se if these machines operate well after the long slumber. |
Post# 884767 , Reply# 36   6/12/2016 at 18:24 (2,872 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 884842 , Reply# 39   6/13/2016 at 07:08 (2,871 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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WOW, what a really interesting washer, it does appear to be a Franklin built machine, BUT I have never seen a washer like this under any other brand name, Franklin was still building solid tub machines in 1966 and this machine bears similarities to the 60-66 Franklin's but it is clear that NOTHING is interchangeable. This may have been a 1 or 2 year design at best, by about 69 there was a Gibson design out that had a huge capacity tub and an angle wing agitator that I saw quite a few of, Like other Franklin laundry appliances of the 60s-70s these Gibson's were terrible in the durability department. There is a good change that this Hamilton is the only one left in the world.
Yes that is a GE motor on the washer, there may be a date on the motor, but for sure there would be a build date on the timer motor and the inlet valve, I am betting 67 or 68 at the latest.
The Gas Hamilton dryer is all Hamilton, these 27" wide dryers are the third generation of dryers that Hamilton built. They still used a single point drum bearing to support the drum like earlier Hamilton dryers and almost all early dryers for that matter. As a result they were very quiet running. The 27" dryers went to the belt around the drum to drive the drum. The gas burner was below and would have a direct-spark ignition system likely by Mcquay-Norris, it would not have had a modulating gas burner as only WP-KM ever built a home gas dryer with a modulating burner.
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Post# 884843 , Reply# 40   6/13/2016 at 07:10 (2,871 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )   |   | |
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Post# 884844 , Reply# 41   6/13/2016 at 07:14 (2,871 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 884906 , Reply# 42   6/13/2016 at 14:03 (2,871 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)   |   | |
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What a beautiful set! And I'm with Gansky, I think the bright aqua interior against the coppertone is neat... colors were such a part of the look and the way to brighten your day! |
Post# 884922 , Reply# 43   6/13/2016 at 14:57 (2,871 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 885123 , Reply# 46   6/14/2016 at 14:33 (2,870 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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Actually most of the machines had one. |
Post# 885132 , Reply# 47   6/14/2016 at 16:02 (2,870 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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Kenny, that is a sharp looking, rare and very unusual set. Hamilton dryers always looked like they meant business with the perforated drum and door window... Enjoy! A |
Post# 885190 , Reply# 48   6/14/2016 at 21:47 (2,870 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)   |   | |
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Goatfarmer: Wow. Am blown away by the fact that you got a matching set and it's Hamilton! Only familiar with Hamilton dryers, not so much washers. And you will most certainly get used to the coppertone and turquoise blue combo -- very easy on the eyes! Congrats on a fabulous find and do hope to see videos of washer as I've never seen one of these in action before.
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Post# 885269 , Reply# 49   6/15/2016 at 07:37 (2,869 days old) by eronie (Flushing Michigan)   |   | |
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Didn't Hamilton dryers have 3in vents? Also didn't they do partial air recirculation? Our neighbors had one, we would watch the Suneglow light in the dark. So scary! |
Post# 888258 , Reply# 51   7/5/2016 at 13:55 (2,849 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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