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Post# 884412   6/10/2016 at 09:55 (2,874 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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No, not Margaret, or Alexander, how about this cute couple from Two Rivers, Wisconsin. Just a tease until I get back Sunday. All I'll say is that they are Hamilton 800's, lo milers, and are safely tucked away.


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Post# 884416 , Reply# 1   6/10/2016 at 10:30 (2,874 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Wow, notable! Awaiting more detailed pics.  :-)


Post# 884417 , Reply# 2   6/10/2016 at 10:39 (2,874 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WOW

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Very neat, and a matching Gas Dryer to boot, can't wait to see more, these would have to be even more rare than the Coppertone Wards-Norge pair Robert got a few weeks ago.


Post# 884419 , Reply# 3   6/10/2016 at 10:50 (2,874 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Echoing what John said....

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WOW, I can't wait to see and learn more about them!

 

What year are these and who actually made them?

 

Kevin


Post# 884421 , Reply# 4   6/10/2016 at 10:59 (2,874 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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OOOOH!  What a great find!  I love matched sets... LOL  

 

I've never seen a Hamilton of this vintage before, very cool indeed.  Congratulations!!!


Post# 884429 , Reply# 5   6/10/2016 at 12:57 (2,874 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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That looks a lot like Maytag's attractive "Cordoba" color. 

 

Looking forward to seeing more!


Post# 884433 , Reply# 6   6/10/2016 at 13:35 (2,874 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
just too cool!

are they circa-1968 franklin built machines? :)

Post# 884437 , Reply# 7   6/10/2016 at 13:59 (2,874 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)        
Congratulations



Exceptional finds.

Looking forward to seeing videos and hearing more info!

John


Post# 884438 , Reply# 8   6/10/2016 at 14:10 (2,874 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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WOW Kenny! Bet the house is very clean as well where they lived!

Post# 884439 , Reply# 9   6/10/2016 at 14:17 (2,874 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Um, wow.  They look as though they probably smell new, let alone looking minty.  Very, very cool!

 

You'll have to let us know if the 'Hamilton 800' lens lights up at all. 


Post# 884446 , Reply# 10   6/10/2016 at 15:23 (2,874 days old) by maytagmike (Burlington, Vt)        
Hamilton pair

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Way to cool. A pair of Hamilton's has always been my dream machines. Can't wait to see them up and running.

Post# 884457 , Reply# 11   6/10/2016 at 17:26 (2,874 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Aferim (and perfect timing for the musical!)

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It seemed to me that after the famous 1969 issue of Consumer Reports that featured and rated the greatest variety of independent brands that I've witnessed, a huge number of them went extinct or were assimilated into the WCI collection of crap. Hamilton was one of these brands.  The dryers have a respectable heritage but I know nothing about the washers. Can't wait to see more pictures and hear how they operate. That money shot is remarkable in many ways.


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Post# 884474 , Reply# 12   6/10/2016 at 19:02 (2,874 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
The Hamiltons

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The dryer is all Hamilton, we have the same dryer in gas that is white. The washer I am not sure about, it is either made by Blackstone   [hopefully ] or a WCI offering, Hamilton never built their own washer.


Post# 884490 , Reply# 13   6/10/2016 at 21:06 (2,874 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Demise of Hamilton Dryers Is Made More Sad

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By the fact it was the inventor of modern domestic clothes dryers who basically helped found the company. In those early days Hamilton could do no wrong as the USA and other markets were starved for the new invention.

Sadly for them Hamilton didn't have the same marketing and production power as the larger appliance makers such as Whirlpool or Maytag, so by 1969 that was that. Even doing private label appliance for other brands still didn't help.

To be fair by the 1ate 1960's into the 1970's and beyond until pretty much now the great heyday of American domestic appliances was shaking out. A wave of bankruptcies, mergers, closings, etc.. began that eventually saw Maytag merged with their long time rival, Whirlpool.

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Post# 884494 , Reply# 14   6/10/2016 at 21:34 (2,874 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Very, very cool!

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I was thinking Blackstone as well, John.  That tub ring and filter looks very Blackstone-y.  I believe in 69, Hamilton's parent company (Hupp?) was bought by WCI and by 1970-71 the Hamilton dryer was gone completely and all WCI.  

 

This dryer still looks all Hamilton built so that might put the washer squarely in the Blackstone era, though that time only lasted two or three years.  


Even more rare!

 

Here is an ad from about 1969-70 and you can see the WCI fronts of both washer and dryer but they kept the small dryer window, at least for a short time.   I wonder how long the Hamilton name plate was kept in the WCI stable?  Couldn't have been too much longer.

 


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Post# 884541 , Reply# 15   6/11/2016 at 07:23 (2,873 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)        
I love the Mini Hamilton Dryett

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Super interesting mini dryer.



Post# 884573 , Reply# 16   6/11/2016 at 10:54 (2,873 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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That is an amazing find Kenny, I'm super impressed. Keep us posted, I'm looking forward to more pictures.

I'm sure this is a Franklin washer, and super rare find in this condition.


Post# 884598 , Reply# 17   6/11/2016 at 15:29 (2,873 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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Better view of the tub.

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Post# 884603 , Reply# 18   6/11/2016 at 15:53 (2,873 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Thats not Norge built?

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Wow what an interior, like my Hula Wash Philco stunning in details !!

 

I love how it says "Programmer" everyone wanted into the Computer act !

 

 

 


Post# 884625 , Reply# 19   6/11/2016 at 21:55 (2,873 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
The Hamiltons

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I am going to bet that this is a Blackstone washer, great tub shot.


Post# 884628 , Reply# 20   6/11/2016 at 22:29 (2,873 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
Nice score!

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Very interesting set. That washer is cool. Love the turquoise tub ring, agitator and accents with the dark speckled tub. The filter and bleach dispenser look Blackstone, the fabric softener dispenser looks WCI/Franklin and the agitator almost looks Norge-ish.

Post# 884639 , Reply# 21   6/12/2016 at 00:38 (2,872 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Didnt Norge

Make them earlier. 50s and early 60s.

Post# 884701 , Reply# 22   6/12/2016 at 11:32 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
well, I'm back

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Had a great weekend at the cottage, did some fishing, some drinking, and just general un-laxing! Nothing like Southwest Michigan, to regenerate the body and mind.....

 

Anyway, some more shots. All lit up.


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Post# 884702 , Reply# 23   6/12/2016 at 11:35 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
more under the hood.

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More of the washer. How does one tell the manufacturer? The dryer is Hamilton, but not sure on the washer. The fabric dispenser looks Whirlpool, but also Norge.

 

I never thought turquoise, and coppertone would work together. I still don't think so.....surprised


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Post# 884703 , Reply# 24   6/12/2016 at 11:35 (2,872 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Kenny, thank you for all the photos.  I would like to request if you can take photos of the control panels such that we can read all the wording and descriptions?  I realize the panels are shiny and might have reflection issues.  Also photos of the underside of the lid with the programe chart with cycle descriptions and options programmed into each of the cycles.  I just noticed the cycle knob has numbers for each setting.  Thank you.


Post# 884704 , Reply# 25   6/12/2016 at 11:38 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
Quality

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That fake woodgrain strip on the front just shouts quality and luxury, right? Porcelain on steel is always good. I don't see any scratches on either one.


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Post# 884705 , Reply# 26   6/12/2016 at 11:40 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
for your pleasure

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The control panels. I have no idea what the programmer does. Let me get a few more pictures.


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Post# 884707 , Reply# 27   6/12/2016 at 11:47 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
Dryer inside

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Like I remember all the Hamiltons over the years. Galvanized steel drum, Sun E Day ozone lite.

 

Now the story, as I know it. These were in the basement of a quad level house on South Bend's west side. Average middle class neighborhood. There was an estate sale going on. Talked to the guy running the sale, he said the daughter of the owner told him that her mother didn't like using them, they were seldom used. She liked going to the laundromat, and meeting up with her friends there ! The dryer was still hooked up, but the washer was disconnected, looked like for quite a while. The fill hoses were still tied up. I made an offer, and took 'em home.

 

Anyone else have this washer or dryer? I'm curious as to the year of manufacture.


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Post# 884708 , Reply# 28   6/12/2016 at 11:58 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
How about these?

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Close ups.


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Post# 884709 , Reply# 29   6/12/2016 at 12:16 (2,872 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
washer pics behind and under

if you can get pics of the washer mechanism could tell who made it-motor spec tag might have a date code to reveal general timeframe of manufacture :)I'm still thinking ~1968-70 franklin.IIRC,this franklin design makes an oinking sound while agitating(or am I thinking of an earlier franklin mechanism...)

Post# 884716 , Reply# 30   6/12/2016 at 12:58 (2,872 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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John could very well be right about Blackstone because Blackstone did make Hamilton solid tub washers in the mid 1960's. Blackstone washers of this era had ribs in the basket, it will be interesting to see for sure. They both look hardly used, it must be coppertone month! I would love to find a washer like that sometime to try out.

Post# 884724 , Reply# 31   6/12/2016 at 13:43 (2,872 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
under the skirt

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Not for the faint hearted! I am not exaggerating at all when I say this washer "looks" unused. What say the masses, as to manufacturer? Delco motor I believe.


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Post# 884730 , Reply# 32   6/12/2016 at 14:05 (2,872 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Oh yeah, that's a Franklin. 


Great story on the set, love those appliance buyers who "didn't like using them" - we live for those!


Post# 884733 , Reply# 33   6/12/2016 at 14:34 (2,872 days old) by Gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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1967

Had the manual all along. Lol. It's interesting to see Hamilton sourcing their washers from Franklin and still building their own dryer. Perhaps it was an interim overlap just after WCI aquired them.

I like the shocking bright blue inside a coppertone box, adds a cheerful lift to washday.


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Post# 884736 , Reply# 34   6/12/2016 at 14:44 (2,872 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
What a cool

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Set of machines


Post# 884743 , Reply# 35   6/12/2016 at 15:40 (2,872 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
GE motor

GE motors usually have a date code stamped into the endbell along with the other specs-I'll check some of my spare GE motors to see how the date code is configured :)Will be interesting to se if these machines operate well after the long slumber.

Post# 884767 , Reply# 36   6/12/2016 at 18:24 (2,872 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
I knew it lol!!

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I can't wait to see it washing away!

Post# 884818 , Reply# 37   6/12/2016 at 23:48 (2,871 days old) by A440 ()        

What an awesome find! Beautiful!
The dryer drum is fantastic!
Where is the Gas Burner on the dryer? Does it state how many BTU's the burner rating is? I am curious also to what type of gas valve is used. Wonder if it is a White Rogers Modulating gas valve?
What a fun set!
Congratulations!


Post# 884832 , Reply# 38   6/13/2016 at 04:05 (2,871 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

I do remember a lady I know who had almost this exact set. What I find interesting is that the set she had must have been a year or two newer than these because her dryer did not have the perforated drum. It had a solid drum like the more conventional dryers of the day and the lint filter was right in front when you opened the dryer door. The door on her dryer had the big glass insert that covered most of the dryer door too and was the same width as the washer. So they did finally change the dryer design. I have had both styles of Hamilton dryers and I can see why they changed the design. It must have cost a fortune to build the old style ones. The had an entire outer drum and inner drum like most of the perforated tub washers do. Hamilton never built their own washers. First Norge built them and sometime in the sixties, Blackstone started building them. Not sure about this design. I did work on the one that lady I knew had. It was different than the Franklin made machines of the same era, so I really don't know what it was. I had to replace the pump on her machine and it was different than any other machine I had ever worked on. The pump actually attached to the motor like the westinghouse or frigidaire 1-18 machines. That much I do remember and had a circulating filter built into the pump.

Post# 884842 , Reply# 39   6/13/2016 at 07:08 (2,871 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
The Hamiltons

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WOW, what a really interesting washer, it does appear to be a Franklin built machine, BUT I have never seen a washer like this under any other brand name, Franklin was still building solid tub machines in 1966 and this machine bears similarities to the 60-66 Franklin's but it is clear that NOTHING is interchangeable. This may have been a 1 or 2 year design at best, by about 69 there was a Gibson design out that had a huge capacity tub and an angle wing agitator that I saw quite a few of, Like other Franklin laundry appliances of the 60s-70s these Gibson's were terrible in the durability department. There is a good change that this Hamilton is the only one left in the world.

 

Yes that is a GE motor on the washer, there may be a date on the motor, but for sure there would be a build date on the timer motor and the inlet valve, I am betting 67 or 68 at the latest.

 

The Gas Hamilton dryer is all Hamilton, these 27" wide dryers are the third generation of dryers that Hamilton built. They still used a single point drum bearing to support the drum like earlier Hamilton dryers and almost all early dryers for that matter. As a result they were very quiet running. The 27" dryers went to the belt around the drum to drive the drum. The gas burner was below and would have a direct-spark ignition system likely by Mcquay-Norris, it would not have had a modulating gas burner as only WP-KM ever built a home gas dryer with a modulating burner.

 

John L.


Post# 884843 , Reply# 40   6/13/2016 at 07:10 (2,871 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )        

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Worthy of 11 Tony Awards!

Post# 884844 , Reply# 41   6/13/2016 at 07:14 (2,871 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        
Greg

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Love your post on never used washers. You are so right.

Post# 884906 , Reply# 42   6/13/2016 at 14:03 (2,871 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)        

What a beautiful set! And I'm with Gansky, I think the bright aqua interior against the coppertone is neat... colors were such a part of the look and the way to brighten your day!



Post# 884922 , Reply# 43   6/13/2016 at 14:57 (2,871 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Wow, very, very cool!  I *might* have some spare NOS pumps for this beast, in case one is needed.  But seeing how things look on the bottom side, I'm thinking you'll be fine. 

 

Glad the panels have lights in them!

 

Ben


Post# 884927 , Reply# 44   6/13/2016 at 15:26 (2,871 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

Has a definite determination been made on exactly who manufactured this washer? It really is different than the rest of the Franklin machines they built of that era. The tub is not as big and the agitator is different too along with the lint filter and pump assembly. Also, when exactly did they go to the solid tub dryer drum? The set I worked on had the solid tub dryer with the big window glass instead of the small one, although I have seen the other type too.

Post# 884990 , Reply# 45   6/13/2016 at 20:54 (2,871 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

For some reason, I recall back in 1967 CR downgraded the Hamiltons because of the potential for severe oversudsing when a regular detergent was used. Their concern was that the sudsy overflow would make its way to the unshielded motor - of course I have no idea which machines would have had a shield to protect the motor against overflowing water/suds.

Particularly interesting machine - I have never seen a live up close Hamilton washer or dryer.


Post# 885123 , Reply# 46   6/14/2016 at 14:33 (2,870 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

Actually most of the machines had one.

Post# 885132 , Reply# 47   6/14/2016 at 16:02 (2,870 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Kenny, that is a sharp looking, rare and very unusual set.  Hamilton dryers always looked like they meant business with the perforated drum and door window... Enjoy!   A


Post# 885190 , Reply# 48   6/14/2016 at 21:47 (2,870 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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Goatfarmer: Wow. Am blown away by the fact that you got a matching set and it's Hamilton! Only familiar with Hamilton dryers, not so much washers. And you will most certainly get used to the coppertone and turquoise blue combo -- very easy on the eyes! Congrats on a fabulous find and do hope to see videos of washer as I've never seen one of these in action before.

Post# 885269 , Reply# 49   6/15/2016 at 07:37 (2,869 days old) by eronie (Flushing Michigan)        
Hamilton

Didn't Hamilton dryers have 3in vents? Also didn't they do partial air recirculation?
Our neighbors had one, we would watch the Suneglow light in the dark. So scary!


Post# 888215 , Reply# 50   7/5/2016 at 10:27 (2,849 days old) by man114 (Buffalo)        

My dad had a Hamilton with a large window and no sun e day he got from my grandparents, but that perforated drum brings back memories. That was one heck of a dryer, lasted nearly 30 years of nearly daily use. Shame he got rid of it, at the time I was too young to convince him otherwise. I've always been on the lookout for one but so far have been unsuccessful.

Post# 888258 , Reply# 51   7/5/2016 at 13:55 (2,849 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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