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Post# 884744   6/12/2016 at 15:42 (2,867 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        

I just thought I would post this. We did laundry today in my Maytag Master Wringer washer. Lots of whites and coloreds and finally blue jeans. We used Borax and Bubble Bandit detergent. I can't get over how much dirt was in those white clothes. We rinsed them twice and he said they are so much brighter.
I was wondering if that is because the new automatic washer that they have, doesn't clean well or rinse well either? It is a top loader made by a Chinese firm.
Yes, you have to "work at it a bit" when doing laundry with the wringer, but you get better results?
I just wondered what everyone thinks? Happy washing, Gary





Post# 884747 , Reply# 1   6/12/2016 at 16:05 (2,867 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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Congratulations Gary! The more you use your Maytag Wringer the more you will like it. I've said before on aw.org that to me doing laundry with a wringer washer is a Zen like experience. If we had the room in our townhouse for a laundry tub I would get a wringer washer in a hot second and use it exclusively for our laundry. The clothes come out cleaner in my opinion, even with reusing the wash water. And the fact that you can do a weeks worth of laundry in about a hour is a real plus. Remember to remove the agitator after every wash and rinse out the tub, and leave the wringer rolls apart so they don't flat spot and stick together. I used to occasionally put a light film of vaseline on the agitator post to keep the agitator from getting stuck, (this is what Maytag used to recommend in the owners manual I believe)but if you leave it off between washes that will also prevent it from getting stuck on the post. I hope that you continue enjoy your "new" Maytag.
My routine for washing in a wringer was:
1. Fill the tub to fill line with hottest water possible, add detergent and LBC. Add first load of whites, agitate for 15-20 mins.
2. Run the first load through the wringer into the waiting rinse tub, I just left the agitator on while wringing and was careful while removing items to wring.
3. Add the next load to the washer and while it washes wring out the first load thats in the rinse water.
4. By the time the first load has been wrung out it should be about time to wring out next load that is in the washer.
Just keep following this pattern until your wash is done.
I used to wash whites first, then sheets, light colors, then towels, and finally darks and levis.
Most of the time I could wash 4-5 loads in the same wash water, adding more detergent and hot water for each load as needed, but I usually only used the rinse water twice.

Eddie


Post# 884755 , Reply# 2   6/12/2016 at 17:18 (2,867 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

You can get clothes clean with a Frontloader. I have no experience with a top load HE washer, but a colleague has had a Calypso for almost 16 years. She loved it and when it died, she said she would not consider a front loader because of a cramped laundry room.

She went to Lowes planning on getting a Maytag Bravos, but though it was flimsy compared to her Calypso so she wound up with an LG even though it only rinses with cold water which was something she initially was trying to avoid. I would imagine that if you are not very careful in your laundering method and allow the machine to use cooler water etc, a good old wringer filled with steaming water properly dosed with a good detergent could remove film left in by inferior laundering. By the same token, if you don't work like a dog, you can get poor results from a wringer washer. I think using water of a temperature that you choose and having enough circulation in the washer combined with vigorous hand and arm action in the rinse tubs should definitely produce very clean laundry. Back when women used wringer washers, most of them hung laundry outside to dry and they were not going to hang dingy laundry outside for everyone to see. In those days you depended on soot from factories or coal-fired locomotives to make the clothes dingy. Paul Simon referenced that in his song, In My Little Town, with the line, "My mom doing laundry, hanging out shirts in the dirty breeze." I have read of the factory towns where wash day was determined by which direction the wind would be blowing from. Dear God, we don't have any idea of how richly we are blessed; not just for the laundry, but living in all of that pollution which the Republicans think is just fine anywhere, here or China or some other turd world country. Today, most women have to work outside the home to help support the family so they don't have time to use a wringer or even pay that much attention to the laundry.

I don't see how those big tub HE toploaders can do a huge load of laundry when Jeff has told me that it takes them a very long time to even get water to the center of the load. Maybe your friend should try doing smaller loads and giving them an extra rinse. It's sort of like the early low flush toilets that took two flushes to handle...well, heavy soil, too.


Post# 884772 , Reply# 3   6/12/2016 at 18:59 (2,867 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
If a Maytag automatic

Washed half as well as a square tub wringer will. I would have one. in my opinion a Maytag wringer will get clothes much cleaner than a automatic. mainly because you can wash things for 20 minutes if you feel the need. and you control the exact water temperature.

Post# 884776 , Reply# 4   6/12/2016 at 19:38 (2,867 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)        
A constitutional-conservative rebutle...

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-->Abcomatic, you're making me want to buy another wringer just reminding me how good they wash.

-->Tomturbomatic, we Republicans do not support a polluted environment, but we believe that it is the states' responsibility to regulate the environment, not the Federal government, as per the Tenth Amendment; which states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people." The commerce clause and the "necessary and proper" clause do not provide constitutional legality for regulating pollution.

We conservatives believe that some regulation is necessary but what the EPA and Dept. of Energy believe is going far overboard.

And Tom, sir, don't take my rebuttal personally, I appreciate that you have an opinion at all in this age of political apathy and lack of knowledge.


Post# 884823 , Reply# 5   6/13/2016 at 00:11 (2,866 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I've never used a wringer and likely never will.  The closest I may ever get is an EASY Spindrier, if I ever find one near me.  

 

It seems to me that the cleaning advantage of wringers is directly related to the ability to use the hottest water one wants, and to agitate for as long as one feels is necessary.  Considering this, can it be assumed that an EASY would provide cleaning results equivalent to a wringer?


Post# 884824 , Reply# 6   6/13/2016 at 00:28 (2,866 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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I would completely expect an Easy Spindrier to equal the performance of a wringer for the exact reasons you stated above Ralph. I've owned a Maytag A50 twin tub, which is pretty much like an Easy SD, just a smaller capacity. My experience with the A50 was pretty much the same as wringer. Being able to control the heat of the water and agitation times make all the difference in how clean the clothes will get. When I used either a wringer or the A50 since the first load was whites and the water was the hottest possible I would use a big wooden spoon to fish out the clothes for the wringer (or the spin tub on the A50) on that first load so I wouldn't burn my hands. Also leaving the agitator on helped too since the items would be constantly coming up to the top of the water.
Eddie


Post# 884826 , Reply# 7   6/13/2016 at 00:46 (2,866 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        

HI everyone, I have an Easy Spindrier too and it really gets the clothes as clean as the wringer machine does. Nothing will escape the Spirlator action of the Easy or the 4 blades on the agitator from the Maytag. I have a basement with a set of rinse tubs so if you get the floor wet, who cares?
Have fun with the laundry. Gary


Post# 884828 , Reply# 8   6/13/2016 at 00:58 (2,866 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        
Oops

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Gary, I feel like a fool giving you pointers on how to use a wringer! I didn't realize you had so much experience with these kind of machines. I envy you for having a basement with laundry tubs. Do you have a clothesline in the basement to for rainy weather drying? When I was a kid that what my Mom used to due when the weather was bad before we got a dryer.
Eddie


Post# 884865 , Reply# 9   6/13/2016 at 09:57 (2,866 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        

HI Eddie, Yep, I have clothes lines in the basement. I hang the laundry on them in the winter. It helps to humidify the house and they dry overnight. Gary

Post# 884869 , Reply# 10   6/13/2016 at 10:14 (2,866 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Laundering for long periods in a wringer washer

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Know persons swear by it and or memory of same, but am a bit weary of such claims as leaving things to wash for ten, twenty, thirty or more minutes in a conventional washing machine.

Looking at some of the central beaters these machines had back in the day you'd have a tub full of tattered rags if you allowed things to be agitated for extended periods. Even on normal speed have read that machines like the Maytag wringers aren't for "Walmart" clothes. Hems of new sheets and such have reportedly been torn apart.

Reading owner's manuals and operating guides for Maytag, Whirlpool, Speed Queen, ABC, etc... most all gave recommended wash periods that ranged from a few minutes to perhaps fifteen at the most. The latter was for very sturdy (and dirty) things that could withstand being beaten about that long.

As for wringer washers (and or twin tubs) getting laundry cleaner than automatics still stand by my original observation; it is the lifting laundry out of mucky water rather than allowing it to strain through it that contributes to a cleaner wash.


Post# 884876 , Reply# 11   6/13/2016 at 10:34 (2,866 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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Well Launderess I haven't washed in a wringer since 1973 and at that time wasn't washing Walmart clothes. But I never recall anything falling apart or being torn to shreds by a 15-20 min wash time. That's the way my Mom, Grandma and Aunts did it and I'm pretty sure if items were being torn up in the washer we would have known about it. The tub was never packed tightly on these machine, you only add clothes up to the point that they will move freely in the wash water. Most of the time I only washed the whites about 15 mins. successive loads were probably about 10 mins or so. All I know is everything always came out very clean and the whole process for 4 loads usually took about an hr. from start to finish. And yes the clothes were being lifted out of the dirty water to put them through the wringer, but the dirty water was pushed through the fabric while going through the wringer so in a sense it still srtained through the fabric. But the copious amount of clear rinse water in the waiting tub took care of that.
Eddie


Post# 884886 , Reply# 12   6/13/2016 at 11:33 (2,866 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Wringer washers had larger wash tubs than automatics which is one reason why the Maytag Gyrator worked so well in the wringer machines and so terribly in the narrow tub of their automatics. That is why the items in the load flew through the water in the Maytag conventional washers and moved with great difficulty in their automatics.

Speed Queen: But what do you do when a river runs through several states and the people downstream do not want the pollution in their waters that the people upstream deem OK to dump into the water or when the prevailing winds carry emissions from one state that turn into acid rain in a state to the east and kill its forests? What do you do when a company has factories in several states and one state has lax environmental standards which the corporation wants to apply to its factories in states that seek more stringent control on pollution? Which way does the full faith and credit clause of the constitution work and to whose benefit? Nothing personal here, just wondering how we can all live together without poisoning one another without a central government standardizing rules and, I have to offer the caveat that I continue to use phosphates, even in my mouthwash.


Post# 884888 , Reply# 13   6/13/2016 at 11:39 (2,866 days old) by e2l-arry (LAKEWOOD COLORADO)        

Having had a Maytag Master wringer as a daily driver now for 4 years, I have to agree on getting better results. I think it is the control of wash time and water temperature. Plus I just don't think my front loader uses enough water to do the job. This ain't Dry Cleaning. You need WATER! And the new Energy standard don't allow much water or even the level of hotness of that water. They cut a LOT of corners to meet these standards. Total B.S.

It is very labor intensive but time saving too. 4 loads in my front loader would take over 3 hours. I can easily get 4 loads through the Maytag in 1 hour and I probably use the same amount of hot water, or less, by re-using the same wash water for all 4 loads.

Where the front loader shines is water extraction. It removed at least 25% more water then the wringer. Which is why I choose to line dry. It may take longer to dry but I'm not using any "store bought" energy to dry. The front loader sounds like a jet engine taking off when it goes into spin and I feel the vibration all over the house when it does. I don't think it was ever really installed correctly. They have to be perfectly level and I think they'd be better suited for a basement. Not on the main level where the washer and dryer hook ups are in my house. I have the Maytag in the basement with access to the utility wash tub.

I also agree with new energy standards imposed upon us, the new machines CAN'T clean as well. This is true for dishwashers as well. I have a newer Kitchenaid dishwasher that has NOWHERE near the cleaning ability as the one we had when I was growing up in the late 60's.


Post# 884894 , Reply# 14   6/13/2016 at 12:12 (2,866 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        

About phosphates in the detergents that are/were used. My mom used Rinso Blue, Oxydol, American Family detgergent, etc.in the 50's and 60's. Bubble Bandit uses phosphates in their dishwasher and laundry products. I read an article awhile back which said that most of the phosphates that ended up in rivers and streams etc. were mostly from run off from field fertilizers and not as much from detergent products.
I am from Pontiac, Il originally and never saw detergent suds etc. in the Vermillion River that runs right through town.
Happy washing, Gary


Post# 885091 , Reply# 15   6/14/2016 at 10:43 (2,865 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)        
Point Taken, but...

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That would require that we throw out all country sovereignty as well, to quote Earnestine the operator, "we are omnipotent," would become the world governments' motto."

Common sense regulations are acceptable, but as we know first hand the Dept. of Energy's latest water requirements for washers and latest energy regulations on dishwashers are ridiculous. This is a very big problem because congress is supposed to make laws but they have delegated their power to the executive branch, something that strict constructionists like myself believe is unconstitutional.

My proposition for the regulations is to transfer them to the states using categorical grants.



Post# 885128 , Reply# 16   6/14/2016 at 15:43 (2,865 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Absent personal direct knowledge of wringer washers

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Can only go by what one has read on various other websites and from reading various online copies of conventional washer owner's manuals.

Have a few hand cranked wringers in my stash, and that gets old very fast. One or two bed sheets and am "done". *LOL* Tried a blanket once (the Miele refused to balance the thing properly to spin without banging itself to death), and won't be doing that again anytime soon.

Have toyed off and one with getting a wringer washer or an Easy spin drier. Mainly for getting through piles of bed linen faster than the hour and plus either the Miele or AEG take to do just one load.

Laundry Alternative now sells a "mega" spin dryer they claim has a 22lb capacity. Could just do loads of linens in wash tub and bung the lot into that huge extractor. www.amazon.com/Laundry-Al...

Have seen a few Bock centrifuge extractors on offer, but they are just too big and bulky.


Post# 885151 , Reply# 17   6/14/2016 at 18:23 (2,865 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        
Launderess,

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I found a Maytag Wringer manual online and you are correct that Maytag did suggest 5-10 mins. for whites and cottons, but also said you could wash for longer time if needed.

My family probably didn't read the "distructions", but my experience was about 15 mins, maybe 20 for whites depending upon soil level. But successive loads were closer to 5-10 mins. I just washed as long as seemed necessary, never any damage to fabric.

The spin drier from Amazon looks like a good idea. But better yet, if you still have your Hoover Twin tub and it is working why not use it? This would do away with having to wash the linens by hand. I think the wash tub on the Hoover is larger than the Maytag A50, which I used to have. I washed 1 kingsize sheet and pillow case at a time or 1 blanket. Of course comforters unless a twin size would be out of the question, I did wash double chennile bedspreads though, the spinner was really at max capacity doing this, but did a fine job of extraction anyway.

I like twin tubs for smaller homes and apartments, they are essentially like using a wringer, but with faster and better extraction, and really easy to store as I'm sure you know.
Eddie


Post# 885179 , Reply# 18   6/14/2016 at 21:00 (2,865 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Gave up using Hoover TT

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For any of the larger bed linens (sheets, table cloths, etc..) years ago. Things just don't seem to get going and it ends up being more bother than anything else. Could be the size of our linens (queen) and the fact most are heavy old linen.



Post# 885186 , Reply# 19   6/14/2016 at 21:27 (2,864 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        
Too bad

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your Hoover Twintub won't work out for you. I've never used a Hoover twintub, only the Maytag version. Since the Maytag A50 has 2 impellers that reverse direction about every 30 sec. the clothing moves very well and does't tangle. I'm not familar with how the Hoover single impeller works, does it also reverse direction? Anyway, that spin drier you're looking at on Amazon would probably be a great solution for you and it certainly is reasonably priced.
Eddie


Post# 885303 , Reply# 20   6/15/2016 at 11:10 (2,864 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I've only seen one Hoover twin tub in action, back in the early 70s and the impeller did not reverse direction.

Post# 885349 , Reply# 21   6/15/2016 at 17:05 (2,864 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Those old marketing materials from Hotpoint got it right; Hoover TT's with their rear mounted impellers aren't the best for laundry. Things often tangle into a mass then do not move freely in water, thus you get poor cleaning.

Long as the load is made up of small and or mixed items, and or the bed sheets in question are twin or perhaps full sized; things perhaps can work. But am here to tell you queen or king heavy muslin or linen sheets are a royal pain.


Post# 886953 , Reply# 22   6/25/2016 at 20:59 (2,854 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
More one reads about Maytag wringer washers

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It becomes clear why they became the gold standard.

Maytag was the first and seems only conventional washer to go with one soft wringer roller. This coupled with their self adjusting ballon wringer system meant safety: even if one's hand were drawn into far as lower arm, less harm would come it seems than with hand operated and other mangles.

Maytag was one of the first and perhaps only wringer washers with sediment traps. Many later automatics incorporated that feature but not wringer washers.

From top to bottom Maytag seemed right to the end interested in creating a quality product.


Post# 887002 , Reply# 23   6/26/2016 at 08:32 (2,853 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I think longer washing times in wringer washers resulted from one person, especially when it was just one person, having to do everything. I would submit that loads after the first one washed longer when you consider how much time it took to process the first load through the rinse tubs then go outside to hang the load on the line. It was easily 15 minutes even when two people were doing the wash, as I remember at my grandmothers' houses and, as the water cooled, maybe more time was beneficial, but it was largely determined by when the previous load was on the line. I was allowed to play in the water, I mean squoosh the water through the things wrung into the rinse tubs.

Post# 890086 , Reply# 24   7/20/2016 at 00:55 (2,829 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        
I agree Tom

It takes about 15 min. to do a load of clothes in the Maytag. 2 rinses and then on the line does take about that much time. After the last load is done and on the line. I always drain the machine, take the agitator out and wash it off and then rinse out the machine, dry it and leave it open so that it dries completely.
That goes for using any wringer machine for that matter. Have fun, Gary


Post# 890102 , Reply# 25   7/20/2016 at 07:37 (2,829 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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If you want a Maytag automatic, install a toggle switch on the back of the machine, splice into the timer moter leads, hook them up to the switch and you can extend any part of a cycle you like. The machine becomes a semi-automatic at that point, when you use the switch, but it will do what you want. Just don't fall asleep when the switch is flipped or you could end up with an extremely long spray spin or clothes washed to death. This can be done on any automatic with mechanical timer and probably with digital one if you're sharp enough.

Post# 890489 , Reply# 26   7/22/2016 at 16:24 (2,827 days old) by vintagekenmore (Spokane, Washington)        

I remember for about a period of six months, my father brought a double tub wringer washer in the house as our automatic washer needed repaired and according to my mother he was too cheap to pay for the fix. So.it was fill the left tub with water...start the agitation and add the clothes and soap. Fill the tub on the right and once that was done, he would start wringing out the clothes and transferring them to the rinse tub. That all ended when mom went down one day and did something that caused it to stop.agitating all together and she had the automatic repaired and the wringer hauled off.


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