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Post# 133514   6/5/2006 at 22:23 (6,527 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Item location: Dundalk, MD, United States

"Vintage Maytag Automatic Washing Machine. Very early model of Maytag Automatic Washer. Body in very good shape Has all original hoses, which would need replacing if you're going to use this on a day to day basis. This was my Great-Aunt's and I don't know if it still works or not but it's a great piece in great condition. Definitely a Maytag Collectible Piece It's heavy, bring muscle to move it."


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Post# 133516 , Reply# 1   6/5/2006 at 22:25 (6,527 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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That's the very first AMP from 1949.

Post# 133526 , Reply# 2   6/5/2006 at 22:36 (6,527 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Nice, and another AMP with a MINT rust-free lid, YAY! I hope someone saves this. I wonder why this particular machine has a white fill flume instead of the usual black? And since this is an early model, it probably has that "pinging" spin solenoid!

Those hoses will definitely need replacing as they are probably as hard as a ROCK! Interesting that the seller also didn't mention that it will need a new belt, the friction-drive pump is probably stuck and will need to be freed up and primed with very hot water, the T-key will probably need to be turned around, and the spin collar oiled...;-)

--Austin


Post# 133636 , Reply# 3   6/6/2006 at 08:36 (6,527 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Go for it, Bob! I hope you win it.

Post# 133649 , Reply# 4   6/6/2006 at 09:06 (6,526 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Knowing those old maytags as we do, the timer is probably frozen as well. Timers are usually the first thing to die on a Maytag.

Post# 133684 , Reply# 5   6/6/2006 at 11:26 (6,526 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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That's right in my back yard, as they say. Maybe I'll go for it...

Nope, this should go to the other Bob! Good luck, dude.

veg


Post# 134940 , Reply# 6   6/10/2006 at 21:33 (6,522 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
AMP AUCTION COMPLETE

I won~!

Hey, Veg...how's about you and I rendezvous and snag this puppy uppy!~

This'll be my first experience with the '49 AMP.
My goal is to take it apart and put it back together successfully, mainly, and less to use it, although I expect I will use it some too once it's back together!

Thanks for the heads up club members. I love this place!~



Bob


Post# 134943 , Reply# 7   6/10/2006 at 21:36 (6,522 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Congratulations to the "other Bob" from another Bob.

Post# 134944 , Reply# 8   6/10/2006 at 21:37 (6,522 days old) by brettsomers ()        

good going, Hollywood!

Post# 134947 , Reply# 9   6/10/2006 at 21:48 (6,522 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Hurray For Hollywood!

Post# 134949 , Reply# 10   6/10/2006 at 21:49 (6,522 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Ohhhhhhhhh

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You beat out "FiftiesFan", you should know better than that! *LOL*

Congrats,

Launderess


Post# 134951 , Reply# 11   6/10/2006 at 21:58 (6,522 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Congrats Bob - what a find! You will have so much fun with this very early AMP ~ enjoy!

Ben


Post# 134955 , Reply# 12   6/10/2006 at 22:07 (6,522 days old) by brettsomers ()        
You beat out

Exactly WHAT are you suggesting, Laundress? (lol)

Post# 134959 , Reply# 13   6/10/2006 at 22:17 (6,522 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Congratulations Bob, like I mentioned last night, you'll LOVE this machine!

Post# 135164 , Reply# 14   6/11/2006 at 21:31 (6,521 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
out of my car...

Got it home....now if I could just get it out of my car!

I think tomorrow after work I have a buddy who can help me get the AMP out of my 323.

The Maytag's in the Mazda for the night though, resting easily.

It looks WONDERFUL. Even has all the foot pads on it.

The belt looks pretty awful, however. Can any of you guys tell me if that's the same belt as on later maytags, or if the belt for the AMP is going to be a challenge to locate.

Thanks guys and gals for all your support.

Bob


Post# 135168 , Reply# 15   6/11/2006 at 21:42 (6,521 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Hi Bob,

The AMP uses the same transmission belt as the later helical-drive models, and like on the later 'Tags, it's a breeze to put on as well, with that pivoting motor mount! Before testing it with the belt, I would check, lubricate, and prime that friction-drive pump; how's the condition of the cork-covered wheel? If it seems worn, putting a Kirby vacuum belt over it will work great!

Luckily the pump wasn't stuck on mine, and I doubt it will be stuck on yours either, but it was a little stiff to turn. Prime it with very hot tap water and try to squirt some 3-in-1 oil on the impeller shaft. I had to take the wheel off first. Hold a small flathead screwdriver in the center slot and turn the wheel; it should come off easily.

Hope this helps...I also forgot to mention that if it shows no signs of life, replace the cord and it should fire right up!

--Austin


Post# 135181 , Reply# 16   6/11/2006 at 22:16 (6,521 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
testing 123

Thanks for your suggestions, Austin, I do appreciate them. What's a friction drive pump? Cork wheel? I don't know those things!~

I'll go through and test what I can with a meter, and take things like the pump completely apart for cleaning and lubing, THEN I'll put water or electricity to it, after I think it may work right the first time. I'm not too new to vintage appliances, it's just that I've never worked on an AMP before. I'll need a new drain hose too, no big surprise, but I'm hoping the internal hoses are at least still useable.

I was graceously loaned a service manual for it this evening, too, by our own JeffAdelphi...so I have the secret de-coder ring, actually....Hopefully, I'll have it going like new again soon. It looks original and in beautiful condition for a nearly 60 year old machine.


Post# 135205 , Reply# 17   6/12/2006 at 00:07 (6,521 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
Austin!

Austin, I'm VERY PROUD of you!!! Mark
Bob, the pump is energized by friction from the back side of the belt! Note how the belt comes off and replace it the same way. Enjoy your new machine!!! Mark


Post# 135221 , Reply# 18   6/12/2006 at 05:11 (6,521 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Hey Bob

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Don't forget the owner's manual:

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Post# 135222 , Reply# 19   6/12/2006 at 05:16 (6,521 days old) by kenmore62 ()        
MAYTAG

HI
A neighbor had this machine when I was a kid. I seem to rember a round glass with the stages of the cycle on it. A red arrow moved from wash to spin to rinse to spin.Am I right about this?? or rembering something from another machine??? THANKS


Post# 135225 , Reply# 20   6/12/2006 at 06:29 (6,521 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
friction-drive pump

oh...Water Pump!~ got it~ and I have a kirby belt on hand and ready for cork wear issues should they present themselves.

Launderess - thanks - I'm bidding on that manual now!~

Kenmore 62 - must be some other machine in your memory..this one has a plain white plastic timer dial. You can see one in Unimatic1140's collection. A red pointer with a window sounds like a mid 60's Frigidaire to me - like a Rapidry1000.


Post# 135226 , Reply# 21   6/12/2006 at 06:37 (6,521 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Wonderful finds. Im picking up the white version of this washer with a matching ELECTRIC dryer this week! Gas Maytag dryers of this vintage with a pilot light can have burner problems that are not always safe to use. I speak from experience......have one with a burner that would not always shut off its gas valve when the dryer was shut off. Very dangerous.........the valve would stick internally, and even with the pilot out would continue to let gas seep out....needless to say, Im not using it anymore........

Post# 135242 , Reply# 22   6/12/2006 at 08:20 (6,521 days old) by rickr (.)        

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I am so glad that someone in the club got to save these. Congratulations Bob!

Post# 135246 , Reply# 23   6/12/2006 at 08:38 (6,521 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hey Bob, great score. The 1949 AMP washer is a very rare find with the original can float inside the hollow red agitator.

Please keep us posted with the restoration.


Post# 135250 , Reply# 24   6/12/2006 at 09:33 (6,520 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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Congrats, Bob! I musta just missed your post and email--I'd have LOVED to go with you to pick up (literally!) the sucker.

Phoo. My whole life is bad timing.

You're going to love this machine! Can't wait to see it in action.

veg


Post# 135289 , Reply# 25   6/12/2006 at 14:37 (6,520 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
progress

O.K. It's inside the basement now.

All I know so far is the agitator comes right out and it is incredibly clean inside the tub - and I only have 3 out of 4 original foot pads.

The pump turns by hand and the cork looks good too. Even the belt may rejuvenate.

I hope to make big progress on it tonight, and will post photos later.

Robert - is that the AMP agitator on the home page of this site?

Thank you all for your support.


Post# 135335 , Reply# 26   6/12/2006 at 21:38 (6,520 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
AMP WITH CABINET OFF

Well, of course, the FIRST thing you have to do is take the ENTIRE cabinet off.

Post# 135336 , Reply# 27   6/12/2006 at 21:41 (6,520 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
under the agitator

Looks pretty clean to me...

Post# 135337 , Reply# 28   6/12/2006 at 21:44 (6,520 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
not quite as clean - before shots

Here's a look underneath..remember these are before cleaning and lubing..

Post# 135338 , Reply# 29   6/12/2006 at 21:47 (6,520 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
motor and pump

nearly 60 years worth of dust accumulation..but that's about all..

Post# 135340 , Reply# 30   6/12/2006 at 21:50 (6,520 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
fill flume

this sure is a gracefully designed part of this machine.

Even the upper rubber tub gasket is still resilient. This is one sweet old machine.

You may also notice the original fill hoses in this photo, and the original power cord as well.


Post# 135341 , Reply# 31   6/12/2006 at 21:52 (6,520 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
red beauty

this is one beautiful agitator

Post# 135342 , Reply# 32   6/12/2006 at 21:57 (6,520 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
chrome float

and the little float too...



Post# 135373 , Reply# 33   6/13/2006 at 07:44 (6,520 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        

Bob ... JUST WONDERFUL!! It really does look nice; the agitator is superb ... the float looks like it's in really good condition, too. The fill flume is white; the one on my 101P is black ... that's different.

The cold water inlet hose has the metal cable running through it to ground it; my 101P is the same way. I got regular Maytag fill hoses and had a 3-prong plug installed on my motor. I had to drill a hole on the base to attach the grounding wire to. It sure is a lot safer than the old 2-prong plug!!

Congratulations, Bob!! You're back in the collecting business again!!

Geoff


Post# 135375 , Reply# 34   6/13/2006 at 07:56 (6,520 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Bob, good for you!. That machine is just wonderful. You will have many, many good times with it.

Steve


Post# 135376 , Reply# 35   6/13/2006 at 07:56 (6,520 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Bob, it is unbelieveable how clean this machine is! This will be a winner for sure. Congrats and great job so far!

Ben


Post# 135384 , Reply# 36   6/13/2006 at 08:51 (6,519 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Bob, yes that agitator is the same as on the Homepage. That the earliest Maytag automatic agitator, only used in the very first AMP model.

Great pictures, one thing I had to do is in both AMP's that I have owned is to change the bottom bearing in the crossbrace. It was noiser than it should be during Spin. I know I have pictures of that around here somewhere, I will look for them.


Post# 135398 , Reply# 37   6/13/2006 at 11:56 (6,519 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

The Chrome float can double as a 45rpm adapter on the turntable.... Maybe not, too big.

Nice machine!


Post# 135425 , Reply# 38   6/13/2006 at 17:02 (6,519 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
pump string

Here's the pump innards. I notice that the rebuild kit came originally with a length of string. Does anybody know what it does, and/or how to install this piece of string? I SUSPECT it winds around the shaft between the pulley and the bearing, and keeps tension on the impeller washers near the seal. Otherwise, you'd need some kind of spring washer inbetween there, wouldn't ya..

Please post here or email me at bobofhollywood@netzero.com if you know about this. Thanks.

Bob


Post# 135655 , Reply# 39   6/14/2006 at 21:09 (6,518 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Hi Bob,

That machine looks like it's in really good shape inside and out. Looks like it has that "pinging" spin solenoid as well! My '55 has the loud "klunker" instead and was the same way when I got it with all of the dust and schmutz...the greasy mess under the machine took a putty knife to scrape off, but it really cleaned up well in the end and there was hardly any rust on the dusty parts!

Very interesting about the pump string; I'm curious as to how that works as well. From the pictures, the pump looks like it's in awesome shape!

Keep us posted!


Post# 135669 , Reply# 40   6/14/2006 at 23:37 (6,518 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
progress report

Today I found that the timer motor has open windings. Lucky for me I happened to have a spare Bendix timer here from around the same vintage, and it yielded a good motor of compatibility. Looks slightly different that the original, but fits and works fine. Whew!~ That would have been a bummer to get the cabinet all back on only to have a doa timer. Now it ZIPS along smartly every 30 seconds with a staccato zzzztttt. Hurray!

I have the pump all back together and on the washer, and even have all 4 foot pads on again, and a new belt which I had here on the ol' green maytag 606 in storage (parts machine).

I have the AMP almost installed, with drain hose on, fill hoses (new ones) on, and power cord ready to plug in the outlet. Tomorrow should be the day it wakes up from it's coma.

I also cleaned on it all day today, and it's looking really fabulous now. Orange Goop waterless hand cleaner with a toothbrush and a rag works miracles.

Bob


Post# 135722 , Reply# 41   6/15/2006 at 10:08 (6,517 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Maytag Gas dryer

FilterFlo, before Halo of Heat design, all Maytag gas dryers had electric ignition, no pilot. Your dryer could have a bad coil in the gas valve. Enjoy your electric one.

Bob, Contratulations. Once you get all of the lid switch bypass set up, you should try one of the Power Fin agitators in the AMP.


Post# 135727 , Reply# 42   6/15/2006 at 10:45 (6,517 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
lid switch by-pass

Can you 'splain how that's done? I'd be interested.

Just now I'm gonna have a look at the inside of the lid (mercury switch assembly) in case it neeeds dusting, then clean and wax the cabinet outside in the sun today, and put it back on the machine later, hopefully!~

I think it's gonna behave - but we have to all keep fingers crossed that the motor and transmission parts will work as is, as well as the inlet valve. All I did was clean around the outside of these components, leaving well enough alone, and hoping that if it ain't broke, I won't have to fix it immediately.

Anybody that can think of any other words of wisdom as to things I should attend to before starting up this old machine, please let me know.

Thanks.

Bob


Post# 135728 , Reply# 43   6/15/2006 at 11:11 (6,517 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Lid Switches bypass

Bob, Robert(Unimatic1140)has done this and should be able to refer you to some of his work.

Post# 135756 , Reply# 44   6/15/2006 at 12:45 (6,517 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
rainbow

outside washing the cabinet with bon ami in the sun...running the water hose a beautiful rainbow appeared 'round the shoulders of the AMP. ...couldn't get a photo, but you can believe me. It's nice outside.

I'm gonna apply a bit of paint (white rustoleum) here and there very sparingly then wax the cabinet in a couple of hours. This can always be re-done, but at least it'll seal up any exposed metal in the mean time. Mainly the original paint is in excellent condition.


Post# 135761 , Reply# 45   6/15/2006 at 13:34 (6,517 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Bob, I just soldered a jumper wire to the mercury switch when I rebuilt the 58 Maytag. There were two mercury switches inside that lid. The other switch was for the tub light, so I did not jump that one. The wiring was "crunchy" for the tub light switch, so I did make a new harness for that.

Post# 135774 , Reply# 46   6/15/2006 at 15:04 (6,517 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
by-pass surgery

It seems to me that a fella would have to add something like a pressure switch elsewhere if one by-passes the mercury switch that tips via the chrome float.

I could possibly see by-passing the one which feels if the lid is shut.

Anyway...those 2 little screws between me and the inside of the lid do not wish to budge. So, later I'm going to just try it with blind faith and see how it goes.

I feel SO like an expectant father. Will it leak? Will it sound smooth, or squeak to high heavens. Do the motor be workin' correctly, or is a cloud of smoke in my near future.

Stay tuned.

Mom digs it, by the way.

and snowball says to tell you all meow too.

Bob


Post# 135782 , Reply# 47   6/15/2006 at 16:07 (6,517 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
The moment of truth.

It's that moment when the whole world stands still, you hold your breath, and you turn that knob. I was like that with my Magnavox. I turned the knob to "reject". The platter slowly accelerated as I watched the needle feel for the record, but it was that defining moment when the first drum beats of "Lay Your Hands On Me" by Bon Jovi started eminating from the speakers. Ahhhh! Breathe! Relax! It works!

I'm saying my prayers for you Bob that all will be good when you pull the timer knob out for the first time.


Post# 135786 , Reply# 48   6/15/2006 at 16:15 (6,517 days old) by rickr (.)        
Sorry, my bad!!

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Sorry Bob, I forgot the early Maytags had the float switch. I thought we were talking about a lid switch.

Post# 135787 , Reply# 49   6/15/2006 at 16:23 (6,517 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        

Bob ... I think this link shows how Robert re-wired the lid of his 1949 AMP.

BTW ... did you date your machine yet? I think somewhere there's a chart utilizing the serial number.

Geoff


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Post# 135920 , Reply# 50   6/15/2006 at 21:42 (6,517 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
well...

well...it LOOKS good anyway...

..seems to me that it needs a serious repair...I'd say prolly torque spring...

What it did was fill until overfilling without shutting off...so then I advanced the timer in to dry and it proceeded to pump out and drain about half the water in the tub...now it just seems to want to agitate...so..

It ain't in a coma, but it's not enjoying perfect health either...


Post# 135923 , Reply# 51   6/15/2006 at 21:44 (6,517 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
tub half full...or half empty

I guess I oughta bail this out for now....

Post# 135924 , Reply# 52   6/15/2006 at 21:48 (6,517 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
inside the cabinet

rust free..

Post# 135971 , Reply# 53   6/16/2006 at 07:45 (6,517 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        

Wow, Bob ... that cabinet is VERY nice!! That machine looks new!!

Too bad about the "problems". Is the timer OK? I know it's working, but do you suppose it's not advancing properly? Just a thought.

I had the same problem with the overfilling on my 101P; it was the water valve ... it wouldn't shut off!!

Geoff


Post# 135986 , Reply# 54   6/16/2006 at 08:54 (6,516 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
water valve...timer...

well...the timer advances fine all throughout the cycle as soon as you turn it past where it expects to fill.

And the water inlet valve stop letting water in the moment you unplug the machine or turn the timer.

I'm thinking maybe Austin hit it on the head when he said turn the T-key. I don't know how to do that, but I do know that the T-key engages the torque spring to the spin tube...somethin's wrong with that, I'm pretty sure.


Post# 136024 , Reply# 55   6/16/2006 at 11:23 (6,516 days old) by bobofhollywood ()        
reason to convene

I look on this as a reason to invite experts into my home for the good of the Maytag.

Somebody knows through experience how to deal with this machine. Will those folks please consider coming to the D.C. area for a convention focused on repairing my AMP?

I bailed it out, by the way...so it's at parade rest until further assistances become available.

Thanks. Let me know. Everybody's welcome & invited.

Bob


Post# 136040 , Reply# 56   6/16/2006 at 12:03 (6,516 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
A Vintage GE Postcard

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Featuring my GE WA750W--a Classic, our family's main machine. From what looks like it was a great NYC appliance store from 1962 up in Spanish Harlem:

Post# 136042 , Reply# 57   6/16/2006 at 12:04 (6,516 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Oh, I'm so sorry, this is in the wrong place

Post# 136064 , Reply# 58   6/16/2006 at 14:01 (6,516 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Its ok

It features a filterflo !


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