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Post# 898240 9/11/2016 at 13:02 (2,782 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Just had this lot dropped off, and am going to have a very difficult time explaining it away. Thing won't fit in a closet or cupboard so cannot be hidden while one bides time and thinks of a way to explain. This may be the straw that breaks the camel's back. My new address after this week may be Bellevue!
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| Post# 898247 , Reply# 1 9/11/2016 at 13:33 (2,782 days old) by e2l-arry (LAKEWOOD COLORADO) | ||
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Nice J2LP you got there. A pump model to boot. You'll have some splainin' to do but I'm sure you'll come up with something brilliant! | ||
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Post# 898251 , Reply# 2 9/11/2016 at 14:11 (2,782 days old) by maytagmike (Burlington, Vt) |
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Nice catch | ||
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Post# 898252 , Reply# 3 9/11/2016 at 14:43 (2,782 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 898284 , Reply# 4 9/11/2016 at 19:03 (2,782 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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| Post# 898294 , Reply# 5 9/11/2016 at 19:39 (2,782 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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Beautiful But I'm SO glad I don't have to worry if I want to bring in something new, Donald will help me no matter what. | ||
| Post# 898308 , Reply# 6 9/11/2016 at 20:13 (2,782 days old) by Bobbi (Pennsylvania) | ||
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It's a beauty! You did well. | ||
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Post# 898315 , Reply# 7 9/11/2016 at 20:48 (2,782 days old) by Jmm63 (Denville, NJ) |
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Post# 898321 , Reply# 8 9/11/2016 at 21:16 (2,782 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Thanks lads
Just came in and now am faced with the reality of what do to with this thing until have time for sorting it out.
First and foremost am surprised at how easily such large and heavy appliance moves. Casters make no noise and the thing goes in any direction almost effortlessly by merely a shove with a finger. A quick test at delivery before accepting as "ok" showed no damage. Plugged the thing in and the old girl started purring away. Released the agitator and it worked fine, as do the wringer rolls in both directions. At first thought the wringer head was broken because couldn't get to lock into position; but soon got that sorted and all is well. Plug is a three prong so that's lucky, but didn't test the pump/hose as of yet. Sadly the agitator is stuck which one having read so many posts here on used Maytag wringers sort of expected. If have time during the week will fill he machine with boiling or at least very hot water and let it sit, then run the machine for several minutes. Hopefully that will loosen things up and then can get the thing off. Have a copy of service manual and thus know how to remove a stuck agitator by other means, but will light that firecracker when it arrives. Lifted and separated the wringer rollers (thanks Geoffdelp) based upon information from this thread: www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... Rollers do not appear to have any flat spots but will know more after the eventual disassembly for oiling. Didn't do a detailed look under the bonnet so to speak, but do not see any traces of oil leaks on the legs or elsewhere. There are spots of light rust here and there (mostly around the black band) that will need sorting one assumes sooner or later. Plan on setting up the old girl for a date with a bucket of hot water and cleanser (you don't know where things have been do you?), and maybe a bit of polish. Before the last bit *may* touch up some of the limited areas of scratches or other marks with white porcelain appliance paint. For now one's biggest worry is where to put the thing. While not exactly huge by other standards (my vintage ironers for instance) the old girl is rather bulky. Am thinking something may have to go in order to make room, *and* keep the peace. Likely candidates for finding a new home are the GE Mobile Maid dishwasher (works fine but as have noted previously the bother of having to take things off and put them back on for loading/unloading is getting on my nerves), and the Hoover TT. It has been brought to my attention that the latter has been used less than about fifteen times in the years since it arrived. Less so after one purchased a stand alone spin dryer. The Maytag wringer will just fit into the space where GE MM is now, which is one reason why it may be first in line of fire. How did this all come to happen? Well as known have been musing about obtaining a wringer washer for some time now, but after the extreme expense of shipping that beast of an ironer was firmly told *BASTA!* This even as a wonderful member offered to give one a wringer washer of one's own choice. Being as this may kept an eye out on CL just to see what there was.... Missed out on a *FREE* Maytag wringer in excellent condition that included the cover in New Jersey a few months ago. It would be the day one didn't bother doing a CL search and of course the thing was gone literally soon as it was posted. This was around the time posted the CL advert for the free Norge washer in NJ. Long story short someone was selling a Maytag wringer right here in NYC on eBay. Wanted a porcelain tub over aluminum because that metal is reactive and thus rules out soaking with oxygen bleach, and or use of really a long list of chemicals. Despite the risk of bringing down the wrath, got the thing for opening bid (around $80) as the sole bidder. Could have driven out oneself to collect but placed a U-ship notice and got someone for about what it would have cost to rent a SUV or van so that's me for you. All in all including shipping paid a bit over $180, which seems to be cheap for a Maytag wringer these days. | ||
| Post# 898331 , Reply# 9 9/11/2016 at 23:32 (2,782 days old) by Stan (Napa CA) | ||
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You did very well!
The machine looks to be in really good shape for its age. I'll guess its a 1954? I'm glad you have the porcelain tub. Since it rolls easy, check and see that the one caster that has the brake..still works. Otherwise she may want to gallivant around while washing. Don't want to hear that you had to chase it down the hall LOL Youl have to let us know how you think it's washes, and what products you think work best. | ||
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Post# 898350 , Reply# 10 9/12/2016 at 05:58 (2,781 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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| Post# 898359 , Reply# 12 9/12/2016 at 08:17 (2,781 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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Post# 898362 , Reply# 13 9/12/2016 at 08:36 (2,781 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 898369 , Reply# 14 9/12/2016 at 09:50 (2,781 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
'Tis wonderful 
The J has always been my fav Tag with the huge, wide-open sparkling enamel tub, full view of the intense agitation drama as the machine fills, and that spectacular pump, not to mention very brisk wringing. Maytag always wins the pump race with any other conventional brand. Have held many races here with six different brands. Though they recommend filling it up all the way, you can use almost any level that suits you, as with any machine.
Really love to hear your rinsing protocol. Will it be in the Miele or the Lavamat, or will you rinse right back in the Maytag the way many do? Once you showed your detergent stash in the basement of your Manhattan apartment. Can you operate the J down there with your rinse tubs, or is that not a viable option? Good luck with this treasure you've been ferreting for--what!?--almost a year now. So happy for you. You'll be flying through those piles of vintage linen like a queen bee through her honey. Love or what you will, Michael | ||
| Post# 898401 , Reply# 15 9/12/2016 at 15:11 (2,781 days old) by Stan (Napa CA) | ||
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Post# 898410 , Reply# 16 9/12/2016 at 16:10 (2,781 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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@MickeydD
Sainted angel sweetie-pie! Makes everything worth it to see you posting again. Stick around, please do! Haven't decided on a "routine" yet. Do know from using my clothes "stomper" and hand cranked mangles that high dilution detergents used in tons of water actually will rinse quite easily. Thus you don't need the three or four rinses of the Miele or AEG. Have the spin dryer as well not to mention the Hoover TT so there is quite a range of options. @Stan Thanks for the decoding. Actually did some research here in the group and came up with the same. So the old girl is about 53, not too bad and she certainly wears it well. Am that happy the tub is in great condition with no chips, dings or rust spots. | ||
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Post# 898411 , Reply# 17 9/12/2016 at 16:29 (2,781 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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Post# 898436 , Reply# 18 9/12/2016 at 18:06 (2,781 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 898522 , Reply# 19 9/13/2016 at 04:57 (2,780 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Score at 0500 - Launderess - 1, Maytag Wringer Washer - 0
Before shoving the wringer away into some spot to make room for moving about decided to sort out the stuck agitator.
First attempt was with several kettles of boiling water, allowed to sit, agitage a bit, sit more, then pumped out. By the way, why didn't you lot warn about the pump on these machines? Have never seen such a forceful purge of water. The fact in this case it was boiling hot and was aiming for a wash tub didn't help. Anyway it did nothing; the darn thing still wouldn't budge. So back to the archives one went in search of aid. Tried the method described in this post several times: www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... First few times various cords used snapped. The final attempt when couldn't move the broom handle anymore, one good shove caused that cord to go as well. By now it is 3AM and one is not only ticked off but getting sleepy. So back to square one. Got the machine nearest to the kitchen sink as possible (in a new revelation the drain hose is on opposite side from sink and will not reach), and using a washing machine hose filled the wringer wash tub with hot water. A month or so ago the boilers went under annual overhaul, since then we now have instant near boiling water (the GE Mobile Maid is very happy) from the taps. Let the water sit for one half hour, agitage for about fifteen minutes, then sit another twenty minutes. After using a bucket brigade to drain washer gave things yet another attempt. First pull up; nothing. Grabbed harder and with a bit more force the thing rose partially. Third and final attempt entire agaitator came off cleanly and smoothly. In the following snaps you'll see just how the tub looked before one dried everything out. The metal spline shows sings of rust, as does inside the agitator, but nothing serious IMHO. Should one get out some fine grade steel wool and remove the rust from spline? Can see what happened; after final time this unit was used before being decommissioned water was not fully drained and the beater not removed. So the thing rusted in place. Otherwise things look pretty darn good underneath. Cannot tell if the snap ring wants changing. Am going to leave the agitator off until "wash day" which is as it should. Will have to raid my vanity table for the large jar of Vaseline for now, but will probably pick up a small jar to have near the washer for future use. Wouldn't white lithium grease work better than Vaseline? In other snaps you'll see various parts of the machine and their condition. The two front legs show lots of scrapes and marks. These will need sorting before they begin to seriously rust. Know can use rubbing compound for smaller marks/scratches, but think this is beyond that. Since the machine will not fit into/near kitchen sink am going to purchase a washing machine hose with extension coupler. If Mohammed won't go to the mountain... | ||
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Post# 898547 , Reply# 20 9/13/2016 at 08:39 (2,780 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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<3 <3 | ||
| Post# 898563 , Reply# 21 9/13/2016 at 10:51 (2,780 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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I say when you have to be bad, be good at it! | ||
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Post# 898623 , Reply# 22 9/13/2016 at 17:37 (2,780 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Post# 898673 , Reply# 23 9/14/2016 at 00:59 (2,779 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO) |
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Congratulations on your new acquisition. It's simply fantastic. | ||
| Post# 898686 , Reply# 24 9/14/2016 at 05:51 (2,779 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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Well the one I live with thinks we all should be in Bellvue. Not everyone likes appliances or any mechanical machines, or cares how they work. Let alone vintage ones. So I win, because I not only got to repair them, but also choose which to buy. Cars as well. Life is about compromise and an occasional concession. | ||
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Post# 898698 , Reply# 25 9/14/2016 at 07:25 (2,779 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 898701 , Reply# 26 9/14/2016 at 07:52 (2,779 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 898760 , Reply# 27 9/14/2016 at 17:56 (2,779 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Bellevue Hospital | ||
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Post# 898765 , Reply# 28 9/14/2016 at 18:23 (2,779 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 898767 , Reply# 29 9/14/2016 at 18:41 (2,779 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Launderess: Wonderful acquisition on the Maytag. A good way to do laundry in it would be to wash, wring and toss the load to one of the Germans for a battery of rinsing and extraction. Also I got my $ 3500 Speed Queen purchase past the SO by proving they are worth it. It should be no problem to prove that that fine piece of Iowa engineering is worth the price paid. WK78 | ||
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Post# 898783 , Reply# 30 9/14/2016 at 22:12 (2,779 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Believe it or not have found rinsing in a tub full of water using my "stomper" device rather effective rinsing. Know this because items placed into one of the German girls afterwards for rinsing gives clear water after the first spin.
Have two hand crank mangles which were fine for smaller items, but large bed and table linen wore one out. It is some trick to keep things evenly fed into the wringer while turning a crank handle. If things aren't spread evenly and or there are bunches the work becomes quite difficult. | ||
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Post# 898784 , Reply# 31 9/14/2016 at 22:22 (2,779 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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My mothers system was wring into the rinse tub after washing, stsrt second load, wring backwards, so I had to catch the wash as a kid, then rinse and repeat the next load. Big stuff always gets jammed in the wringer. But it is still quicker than any new automatic today, That is except those of us that have real good vintage ones.
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Post# 898790 , Reply# 32 9/14/2016 at 23:26 (2,779 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Saving grace of the Maytag wringer washers
Is their balloon rollers and self adjusting tension.
With hand cranked wringers even leaving the tension fully slacked still does not allow some thick items to go through easily if at all. Ditto for wringer washing machines where you set the roller tension. According to my MT wringer service manual the only way to increase tension for the rollers is to swap out a few parts. Ideally what one would love is to have a Maytag wringer for washing (that square tub Gyrofoam action) and a Bock type extractor or at least one with a bit wider opening, and larger capacity than typical domestic spin dryers. Such set would be like the Unimac UM 202 | ||
| Post# 899567 , Reply# 33 9/20/2016 at 00:53 (2,774 days old) by Stan (Napa CA) | ||
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Hi Dear | ||
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Post# 899592 , Reply# 34 9/20/2016 at 06:57 (2,773 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Hi Stan!
No, no maiden wash just yet, need to get the old girl sorted first. Mustn't rush these sort of things. *LOL*
Yes, between the strong action of pump and the large/wide hose Maytag wringer washers seem to empty that 18 gallons of water rather quickly. Faster than any automatic it seems. Ordered some Maycor center seal grease to lube the agitator spline and various points on the wringer as noted by the service manual. Also want to take the top of wringer off and before lubricating clean out the gunk and filth that has acclimated. Also am planning to lubricate the wringer shaft as well. On another note finally got around to looking underneath and while all seems well (but then again don't really know anything from anything), there is a trace of oil along the center post down the left rear leg. This looks to be old and congealed so don't know if there was a leak at some point, and or perhaps the machine was laid down incorrectly at some point and oil leaked out. Looked at the drain hose connection and it looks simple enough to replace if one wants something longer. As mentioned don't think there is room to move the machine close enough to the sink for draining. However do have an idea using the old "quick connect" hose saved from the Kenmore portable dishwasher before it was chucked. Am thinking of connecting the drain end of that hose to the gooseneck with a hose clamp. If the connection can withstand the force of water out of pump would allow the machine to remain stationary in a wider open area for use. The other part of said quick-connect hose functions for filling so that is me sorted. At end of wash day can just undo the connection and that will be that. This saves having to accommodate a long drain hose when the Maytag is pushed into tight cubby for storage. Also am working under the IIABDFI (If It Ain't Broke Don't Fix It" theory. That is the drain hose is fine as it is now, but start messing with it and or the pump and who knows what could happen. Will purchase one of the newer turquoise agitators with the "cup" to help keep water from getting at the seals. | ||
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Post# 899641 , Reply# 35 9/20/2016 at 11:43 (2,773 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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The gentle rhythm of that transmission is one of the most relaxing sounds I know of. A tape of it would be good for inducing sleep. Sleepy-Time Tea, indeed. Sleepy-Time Maytag is better. | ||
| Post# 899757 , Reply# 36 9/21/2016 at 01:44 (2,772 days old) by Stan (Napa CA) | ||
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Dear
Just A heads up.. when your ready to lubricate the wringer shaft..
I think your speaking of putting a film of oil on the metal pipe that comes out of the bottom of the wringer? This requires the wringer control handle to be in the "swing" position. (Not neutral) This also will require you to lift up the wringer assembly as show in your owners manual. That assembly is very heavy. Please be careful. | ||
| Post# 899840 , Reply# 37 9/21/2016 at 13:38 (2,772 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN) | ||
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Post# 900357 , Reply# 38 9/24/2016 at 18:35 (2,769 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Looks can be deceiving
While rooting about underneath to check about the motor, spied a bit of tape with writing stuck way up on the skirt. Was impossible to read while in place so managed to get a bit of it off.
Writing is faint because the masking type tape either came into contact with oil or maybe that is how it was back then. Near as can figure out it says something about machine being "returned" after a repair. The rest is faint and difficult to read handwriting but the gist of things seems to be the old girl was once leaking gear oil and a "gasket" was replaced. Haven't been able to get pictures yet, but there is a trail of oil along the housing for power bar (from motor to wringer) and down the left rear leg. It is all dried and gunky now, and so far haven't seen any traces of a fresh leak. To be on the safe side am going to swap out the black agitator for one of the turquoise versions. Supposedly they offer better protection against water seeping down into the seals/gaskets. If the plastic spline makes too much of a "tick-tock" may seek out someone to swap it out for a metal. | ||
| Post# 901960 , Reply# 39 10/6/2016 at 01:58 (2,757 days old) by Stan (Napa CA) | ||
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Hi Dear
Thought I stop by and see how your doing with the new baby.
The oil that your speaking of is often times gear oil that has seeped out of the weep hole on the right angle drive. If you run you hand over the top over the right angle drive you feel a raised spot.. This is the weep hole. I'd clean things up and don't be concerned about it unless you find a puddle on the floor! Don't think you will. Other than that, have you washed a load yet? | ||
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Post# 901986 , Reply# 40 10/6/2016 at 07:31 (2,757 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Hello Stan!
How sweet of you to inquire, people are so kind..
No, no maiden wash just yet. Have been busy with other things so haven't given much time to the Maytag. Did gussie up the old girl by getting at the rollers. Couldn't get the pin on left side out so had to be contented with lifting the right so as to clean things out and put a touch of "center seal grease" on the bearings. Know some use oil but the repair manual said "grease" so that is what one used. Also applied a coat to the agitator shaft so as to prevent another stuck agitator event. Other than that got out my can of vintage "Easy On" liquid glass and metal cleaner/wax (think Jubilee)and went to town. Did wash the old girl down with a bucket of hot water with a bit of dish soap and ammonia, which left a very nice shine. However wanted the protection of a wax to help keep any (more) rusting down. My copy of Maytag wringer manual (blue cover) suggests waxing these machines about every year or so. Methinks as with a car the light coating of wax helps water bead up and protects the finish. | ||
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