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Post# 902922   10/13/2016 at 16:02 (2,744 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Now, I was - as usually - strolling around some manufacturers sites and ended up on the Maytag commercial website.

I thought to my self that these TL multi-housing washers sure look like they have a lot in common with VMW design, especially the controls.
So I downloaded the manual and found this verry interesting site in it.


Now, sure, I don't know if anything I say could work, but, given the assumption that the basic control unit is the same and that the coin drop is sold as an add-on, I thought that the mentioned jumper terminals should be present on ANY VMW washer, most likely even on the consumer grade versions.
I don't know if that is true, and if so, if they are actual physical jumpers within the PCB casing or if they are just tracks.
And then again, if one could modify these connections, I would still not know if the programming would accept that or if it would cause an error.


But I got the strange feeling I'm onto something there...

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Post# 902937 , Reply# 1   10/13/2016 at 18:11 (2,744 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I don't care

 what they've modified. I'll not buy another. I finished a load two hours ago. Rather, I tried to. The washer was barely agitating. Short quick nudges, not even moving the clothing. I may as well had it on soak. It spun and filled with rinse water.
I'm trying it on another cycle.

Post# 903001 , Reply# 2   10/14/2016 at 07:42 (2,743 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I found

 two pennies and a dime wedged between the wash plate and the tub. I removed the wash plate, and the coins, then washed a load on hand wash. It worked ok.
Is it possible the copper pennies were messing up the basket position sensor?
We'll see when I do the next load on wrinkle control. If it makes it till black Friday, like when we bought this one back in 2010, we may find a front loader on sale. Otherwise maybe just a cheap $300 top loader with a tall agitator.
I can't justify spending a grand for a washer that lasts 3 to 5 years before needing a bearing/seal job, and or a drive unit like this one had done two years ago.

Post# 903020 , Reply# 3   10/14/2016 at 09:19 (2,743 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Wrinkle control cycle

 also just finished washing without a problem, is now rinsing. Very peculiar, no?

Post# 903021 , Reply# 4   10/14/2016 at 09:21 (2,743 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
So, with any luck,

 grand daughter has a nicer Christmas. They grow fast, and always need new clothes.

Post# 903048 , Reply# 5   10/14/2016 at 13:36 (2,743 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
I like your thinking :)

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I frequently have those same urges. Sometimes it yields results, others do not, but it gives an answer to my question. In your case I have no idea, but it would not surprise me if you do gain access to a hidden program that is assuming the consumer grade has such tracks/jumpers. IF you do, Id recommend using a board of Ebay once verified working as a guinea pig.




Post# 903051 , Reply# 6   10/14/2016 at 14:09 (2,743 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

I'd love to test this out...

Sadly I am probably a few thousand miles away from the next machine I could test this out on... This was ment more as a thread to get some input on what others think of the possible validity of my theory...

Post# 903139 , Reply# 7   10/15/2016 at 08:48 (2,742 days old) by wishwash (Indiana)        

I have an early Kenmore model that I could try this out on. Not sure if it would work, but the delicate and normal cycles are programmed to do a spray rinse. My model is without the rinse selector switch. I'd like to have the option to use the normal cycle with a deep rinse, as sometimes I just want the shorter wash time (not heavy duty) with the high speed spin (not casuals). I suppose that a toggle switch could be added to the back of the machine if this did work.

Post# 903158 , Reply# 8   10/15/2016 at 11:46 (2,742 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Toggle switch

 Yeah, closed for Eco-Spray-Rinse-mode, open for deep rinse.

Post# 903256 , Reply# 9   10/16/2016 at 07:17 (2,741 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Toggle switch?

 Washers used to have water level selectors. Mine gives me a deep rinse now on all except normal cycle, which I can't use anymore because the normal wash is now a deep wash with a half tub of water, but no deep rinse. So it needs more detergent, but doesn't get rinsed well. I could select an extra deep rinse, at one hour+, but who has time?
So I use wrinkle control cycle which has both deep wash and rinse at about 40 minutes total.

Post# 903259 , Reply# 10   10/16/2016 at 07:21 (2,741 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

I just can't imagine putting up with a machine like that. That was the reason when I bought a new one I got a front load machine. It washes well and will rinse up to 3 extra times using very little water because with a front loader you don't need a lot of water to do an excellent job.

Post# 903329 , Reply# 11   10/16/2016 at 18:56 (2,741 days old) by wishwash (Indiana)        
Front load

 A front load will most likely be what I purchase whenever my Kenmore gives up. For now it does well. I usually reserve the Normal cycle for those small loads that a spray rinse works just fine for. Towels go on Heavy Duty, and daily clothes on Casual. It's not a big deal that my machine doesn't have a rinse selector, but it would be nice to have.

Post# 903374 , Reply# 12   10/17/2016 at 07:14 (2,740 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Mine has

 "bulky" cycle, which is a full tub of water for both wash and rinse. Even large loads float on top of the water, via glass lid observation. 3.6 cubic ft. capacity, not even 4.3.
It has "power wash", which is the 87 minute Normal cycle.
When my washer was new, I used it once for a comforter which came out with tattered corners. I had washed it on bulky, but it just floated on top.


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