Thread Number: 67813
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
UK Hotpoint vs USA Hotpoint |
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Post# 905247   11/3/2016 at 01:25 (2,724 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Always wanted to ask, but never have. Are these 2 brands somehow related to each other? I ask because UK Hotpoints while different, also bear design choices to US Hotpoint/GE FF washers. For example the fixed pump with spider coupler, the snuber pad suspension, large clutch shoes, counterweight directly across from the motor, recirculation flume and pan (if I am thinking of the right machine), ramp type agitator, ect. Sounds like a neat history behind all this.
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Post# 905296 , Reply# 1   11/3/2016 at 12:23 (2,724 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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I'd be curious about that too.
AFAICT, UK Hotpoint had little or nothing in common with the appliances manufactured in Chicago. I imagine some company in the UK bought the rights to the name sometime in the middle of the last century and used it as a marketing incentive. Were Hotpoint clothes irons popular over there in the early part of the century? You guys sure went apesh*t over Hoover's products. |
Post# 905307 , Reply# 2   11/3/2016 at 13:10 (2,724 days old) by reversomatic (east anglia,england,u.k.)   |   | |
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I think this is one of the first types of washing machines sold in the uk branded as Hotpoint . It looks as though it was based on the Maytag wringer washer. The first Hotpoint Empress wringer washer produced later had a dished aluminium agitator very similar to the Maytag . It would be intresting to know the history and connections between the brands.Its funny how things go as now Whirlpool own Maytag owns the Hotpoint brand in europe ! Nigel.
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Post# 905321 , Reply# 3   11/3/2016 at 15:06 (2,724 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 905322 , Reply# 4   11/3/2016 at 15:12 (2,724 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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"In 1920 Hotpoint UK established a joint venture with US competitor General Electric, forming the Hotpoint Electric Appliance Company Limited (HEAC) to market GE (USA) branded goods in the UK. HEAC was already an American company.
It was famous for its all-white products, and hence the generic product name white goods. In 1929, HEAC joined the Associated Electrical Industries (AEI) group and became a part of The General Electric Company or GEC group (not to be confused with General Electric) in 1967. By the 1960s it was the UK market leader, followed by Sweden's Electrolux. Hotpoint continued as a subsidiary of GEC until 1989, when it was merged into a new division of GEC called General Domestic Appliances (GDA), 50% of which was purchased by General Electric (USA), with whom it owned the joint venture. In 1998, the Redring and Xpelair brands also joined GDA, and Hotpoint was categorized as part of GDA Applied Energy. GEC was eventually transformed into Marconi plc, from which Indesit (then called Merloni Elettrodomestici) bought 50% of GDA (Hotpoint and Creda) on 21 December 2001 for £121m.[5] At this point, Hotpoint employed around 7,000 people at its four UK sites, three of which have subsequently closed. Indesit UK has been based at Peterborough since 1 June 2003. At the beginning of 2007, Indesit completely took over Hotpoint and merged it into its own historic brand Ariston, creating a single entity known as Hotpoint-Ariston, Hotpoint now existing as a branding on European-made products. In 2008, the Indesit Company acquired the final quota of shares from General Electric for US$ 57,120,000.[6] From late 2011, Indesit rolled out the Hotpoint brand name across Europe - replacing the Ariston & Hotpoint-Ariston names. In 2014, 56% of Indesit was purchased by the Whirlpool Corporation, and continues using the Hotpoint-Ariston brand name. (wiki) The Hotpoint Model A washing machine is the same as the Maytag model E we have been told.. CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK |
Post# 905323 , Reply# 5   11/3/2016 at 15:17 (2,724 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 905326 , Reply# 6   11/3/2016 at 15:20 (2,724 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)   |   | |
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When General Electric of the USA wanted to get into the British appliance market after World War I, they used the name of their Hotpoint subsidiary, because there was already a completely separate "General Electric Company" (known by the initials GEC) in the UK. After a series of takeovers, GEC, which no longer exists, did end up owning the British Hotpoint brand by the late 1960s.
I don't know if there was any GE influence in the design of the British Hotpont toploader, but it appears fairly obvious there was, even if there's no parts interchangability. |
Post# 905327 , Reply# 7   11/3/2016 at 15:23 (2,724 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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The Hotpoint top loaders where based on the GE FilterFlow but sized for the UK Market, with extras such as 3kw heater, 1050 rpm spin speed with Spiralator and filter pan, the style of these machines was virtually unchanged from the launch in the 60`s till end of production in the 90`s.
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Post# 905329 , Reply# 8   11/3/2016 at 15:43 (2,723 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hi Ken We did indeed enjoy the Hotpoint Irons over here as well as the Hotpoint upright vacs which are similar to GE vacs..
As for Hoover products we loved those Hoover cleaners so much we built 3 factories and made it a verb, when Hoover UK (still a small distribution arm of North Canton) developed the range of Hoover washing machines and extended the household appliance line Hoover UK outstaged the original North Canton company in terms of revenues and share options all by the hard work and vision of Sir Charles Colston, Hoover UK Chairman....alas both companies through acquisitions & mergers are a shadow of their former selves.
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Post# 905373 , Reply# 9   11/3/2016 at 21:19 (2,723 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Id say there was, at least someone looked at the design/patent and said "lets shrink and economize the parts for UK production while adding features UK consumers want" Really like the concept though, I think those might have been some of the best washers the UK has seen.
You guys have no water meters, right? ;) |