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Over 5 Years Later, I'm Ready to Run the Unused 1962 General Electric Filter-Flo
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Post# 906531   11/11/2016 at 13:38 (2,721 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Some of you may remember back in 2011 when I brought home the brand spanking new, never used 1962 General Electric Filter-Flo washer. You can see it brand new in this thread:

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Well I found a good home for the '61 GE filter flo I had and now I'm ready to start using the '62, here it is all installed but still unused!





Post# 906532 , Reply# 1   11/11/2016 at 13:41 (2,721 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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But before I use it for the first time I took the basket out to inspect the boot and make sure it is still pliable, which it is, so I took pictures of what the interior of a brand new GE Filter-Flo looks like for the archives.

Post# 906534 , Reply# 2   11/11/2016 at 13:42 (2,721 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Post# 906540 , Reply# 7   11/11/2016 at 13:45 (2,721 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Post# 906541 , Reply# 8   11/11/2016 at 13:46 (2,721 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I'll post pictures of the first load once I run it either over the weekend or next week.

Post# 906547 , Reply# 9   11/11/2016 at 14:43 (2,721 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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** drool **

Post# 906549 , Reply# 10   11/11/2016 at 14:44 (2,721 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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even today, that machine is still absolutely beautiful.....

best of luck with the maiden wash...



Post# 906551 , Reply# 11   11/11/2016 at 15:42 (2,721 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

We have had a V12 basket and the basket from a straight front WH tumbler washer back to back on the shop floor and they are almost the same size. When you consider that the GE doesn't fill to the top and that it has the agitator taking up room,  the WH basket is not that small and the V12 tub is not that large. In spite of all the water it takes to fill that outer tub, it does not hold as much laundry as the KA top loader although if you drain the GE into the KA, which I did many times in the past, they use the same amount of water.

 

Is the dial lighted?


Post# 906558 , Reply# 12   11/11/2016 at 16:04 (2,721 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        

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That is one fine washing machine!  Have fun with it.

 

lawrence


Post# 906563 , Reply# 13   11/11/2016 at 16:41 (2,721 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Was the dial lighted?

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No, the lighted dials were discontinued after 1961; some of them melted. Also, it looks like GE decided to use higher contrast graphics on the last 2 generations of the beautiful plastic dials before doing away with them altogether. Sad because they were beautiful little works of art.


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Post# 906594 , Reply# 14   11/11/2016 at 22:49 (2,720 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Thanks, Ken

We are planning to put a small compact fluorescent bulb behind the dial in the dryer I bought from Lawrence. It has the same color control panel as Robert's washer, but the control panel is on pedestals. Fluorescent light behind the black dial is very dramatic.


Post# 906595 , Reply# 15   11/11/2016 at 22:59 (2,720 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        
Using it...

That would be a tough call for me.  As it is it's got to be the only one in existence in it's current state.  Yes it was made to be used, but....


Post# 906603 , Reply# 16   11/12/2016 at 00:28 (2,720 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

USE IT!!!!!Better than the DRECK made today!!!!Beautiful machine--USE & ENJOY IT!!!

Post# 906610 , Reply# 17   11/12/2016 at 02:23 (2,720 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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I would use,document and video the minty fresh experience for posterity !!

Did the size of the rubber boot change over production years ?


Post# 906613 , Reply# 18   11/12/2016 at 04:20 (2,720 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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The Maiden Wash in that Beautiful Machine should be declared a National Holiday.

I would send documentation and a video to GE.

But I'm sure the people behind the design and manufacturing team could care less.

I find the more young people I run unto, they have no clue what quality is. They only know to replace. Not repair.

I do remember when you got that machine. But honestly, I had forgotten about it.

Can't wait to see the video. This will be quite the occasion. Have you contacted the Caterer and compiled a guest list ?


Post# 906616 , Reply# 19   11/12/2016 at 04:57 (2,720 days old) by man114 (Buffalo)        

The problem isn't young kids, I'm on the younger side, the problem is the stuff just isn't built as well nor is it built to be cost effective to repair (and I'm one to garbage pick things and try and repair them).

I recently scrapped a GE front loader and Haier top loader. The GE had a bad bearing and ripped up the front door seal. To be honest the machine was heavily used. I bought it on clearance for $400 back in 2009. I just don't see the return on investment of throwing $200 at a machine used as heavily as it was if I fix it myself. It's half the original investment. When I throw stuff out I strip it, saving anything I could possibly use, and it was overly difficult to disassemble to make a complex repair practicle, and used tons of plastic.

I also recently scrapped a 5 year old Haier toploader. The pump went twice. I paid $200 for the washer (it was a higher end model but I got it through a surplus liquidation place). How many $35-40 pumps is it reasonable to toss at it. I stripped it that one too and the construction quality was poor.

The replacements I bought a few months ago were a Speed Queen and TOTL Samsung Addwash (not the first choice but it had a slight dent in the top and Sears clearance it out for $499). I always keep a top loader and front loader.

I know how the Speed Queen is built but the TOTL Samsung should be an interesting test. It washes well but I'm left wondering how durable it will prove long term. It seems flashy but I have serious doubts about the construction quality. I have a sneaking suspicion it will last a few years and be more cost effective to replace than repair.

The machines are delivered to achieve a price point for the feature set the deliver it seems. As long as they outlast the warranty that's all that matters.


Post# 906617 , Reply# 20   11/12/2016 at 05:05 (2,720 days old) by earthling177 (Boston, MA)        


Yay! Have fun and enjoy it in good health!!!


Post# 906621 , Reply# 21   11/12/2016 at 06:24 (2,720 days old) by ottoreese (Indianapolis, Indiana )        

There are no words to how jealous I am right now. :-) I'm not sure if I would use it or place it somewhere in the living room as a showpiece!

Post# 906633 , Reply# 22   11/12/2016 at 09:10 (2,720 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        
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I remember when you had posted about this machine back in 2011.  Reviewed the thread and was in awe about the never used find.  

 

Looks like fun!


Post# 906654 , Reply# 23   11/12/2016 at 13:59 (2,720 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

What did you do with the 61? I remember using it at one of your wash-ins.

Post# 906725 , Reply# 24   11/12/2016 at 22:36 (2,719 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
YES!!!

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I very much look forward to the maiden wash video Robert!

Cheers
Leon


Post# 906792 , Reply# 25   11/13/2016 at 14:01 (2,719 days old) by jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA)        


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It wants to be used! Have fun with it. I don't see a sink for suds saver?

Post# 906844 , Reply# 26   11/13/2016 at 19:49 (2,718 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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Awesome Robert! That washer is clean and beautiful. Simply amazing. Good luck on the first run. Looking forward to the pics.

Post# 907470 , Reply# 27   11/18/2016 at 07:11 (2,714 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
wow

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what a treat, we never get to see them inside in factory condition !!!

 

 


Post# 907473 , Reply# 28   11/18/2016 at 07:57 (2,714 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
OMG... the Excitement!

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I think I may have just pee'd a little!

Malcolm

( curious about those three position rocker switches, is the uppermost position horizontal or is the middle position horizontal? )


Post# 907484 , Reply# 29   11/18/2016 at 09:28 (2,714 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
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Uppermost position was horizontal.  Some switches were 3-position and some were 2-position.

 

I believe the water level designations were:

Top:  10-12 lbs.

Middle:  6-10 lbs.

Bottom:  6 lbs. and less.

 

Wash temp designations were:

Top:  Hot.

Middle:  Warm.

Bottom:  Cold.

 

Rinse temp designations were:

Top: Warm.

Bottom:  Cold.

 

Speed designations were:

Top:  Normal.

Bottom:  Gentle.

 

lawrence


Post# 907493 , Reply# 30   11/18/2016 at 10:23 (2,714 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Thanks...

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I kind of thought that would be the case, but wasn't 100% sure.
Thanks for schooling me.

Malcolm


Post# 908057 , Reply# 31   11/22/2016 at 13:59 (2,710 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        
She's a beauty! Water guzzler, but still a beauty!

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Isn't it amazing that they really didn't change their design for sooooooo many years?

Post# 908170 , Reply# 32   11/23/2016 at 08:45 (2,709 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Hey Robert, does the 62 have a spray rinse during the first spin? I wasn't sure what year GE added that and discontinued the "suds kill" pause.

Post# 908197 , Reply# 33   11/23/2016 at 10:34 (2,709 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hey Robert, does the 62 have a spray rinse during the first spin? I wasn't sure what year GE added that and discontinued the "suds kill" pause

Yes they added that in '61, it's a feature of the perforated tub models.


Post# 908234 , Reply# 34   11/23/2016 at 12:52 (2,709 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Robert, why yes indeed.  I think you will keep that bakelite activator and the filter pan unused.  I hope you decide to use the GE and enjoy it when you are ready. A 


Post# 909079 , Reply# 35   11/30/2016 at 07:16 (2,702 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Spray Rinse???

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More like firehose blast!! I have to shut the lid on my '61 when that comes on or I'll be drenched!

Whirlpool had spray rinse, GE had firehose!

 

 


Post# 909113 , Reply# 36   11/30/2016 at 12:11 (2,702 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
La flume de ma tante

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I've used so many Filter-flo washers that I will say that the quality of the spray rinse depends on a couple of factors. First of all, the fill flume on the solid-tub machines, pre-1961, had a well-designed, compartmentalized, hard plastic flume that diverted some of the water down into the outer tub to do the suds kill, so the fill/spray stream was very neat and directed and didn't hit you in the face. It also had a diversion for the TOL models to feed the rinse dispenser.

 

The soft rubber flumes on the perforated tub models were aimed a little bit into the washbasket balance ring and the clothes retainer ring so a lot of the water would splatter like an old man pissing and some of it would go down into the outer tub; I never understood why they made the thing so messy compared to its predecessor. Also, on one or two later machines the flume was aimed/mounted poorly so that most of the spray rinse water missed the spinning basket and ended up going down the outer tub.

 

One's water pressure also made a big difference. Growing up, our FF was on the fourth floor and the pressure was so low it took nearly 11 minutes for the machine to fill the tub on anything else than the WARM water setting.

 

I love how the nozzle/flume materials on Robert's unused machine actually have some shine to them.


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Post# 909164 , Reply# 37   11/30/2016 at 20:10 (2,701 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Not to Hi-Jack the GE thread, but WP built BD washers had the fastest fill of any Automatic Washer I have ever seen, when set for warm water fill they filled at 8-10 gallons per minute, and a warm spray rinse was this same rate of fill, this is why WP pulsed the spray rinse, otherwise the fill rate could easily overwhelm the pump out ability.

 

Back to the unused 1962 GE FF washer, have you fired it up yet Robert ?


Post# 909792 , Reply# 38   12/5/2016 at 18:59 (2,697 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Ahhhhh

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I don't remember a spray rinse in a solid tub GE  for suds kill. Someone want to correct me??

 

 


Post# 909794 , Reply# 39   12/5/2016 at 19:30 (2,697 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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You stand corrected.... LOL

 

The 1951 GE has a spray during the first spin, the motor stops and the tub slows as the water continues to spray, then the motor kicks back in to finish the spin.   From what I've read the 1953 should do this also. 

 

Proof:

 




 



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