Thread Number: 68820
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
What if a modern Maytag wringer appeared on the market? |
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Post# 916163 , Reply# 1   1/18/2017 at 06:21 (2,648 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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What use is a washer that can't spin or wring the load?And its PLASTIC to seal the deal!!Wouldn't buy.USELESS! |
Post# 916167 , Reply# 2   1/18/2017 at 06:38 (2,648 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 916180 , Reply# 4   1/18/2017 at 08:12 (2,648 days old) by yoblount (TX)   |   | |
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How large would said machine be? Full size or compact?
If compact, I think there would be too much competition with compact and ultra compact twin tubs. No spin dryer would be a deal breaker for me. If offered in full capacity then one would also need to consider the purchase price of a full size spin dryer. Those are not cheap. Personally, I do not believe such a machine would sell very well. |
Post# 916202 , Reply# 6   1/18/2017 at 10:12 (2,648 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Why not just put a freakin wringer on it? Without some way to extract the water from the clothing this machine would be useless. I personally think that there would be a market for a revival of the traditional wringer washer, albeit small. When Lehmans was still selling the Home Queen wringer washer that was a Speed Queen spin off made in Saudi Arabia they seemed to find a market for them, even though they didn't have a pump, which would also be essential. And I have to agree with Tom, using plastic instead of porcelain enamel would be a false economy. Do it right, or just don't bother.
Eddie |
Post# 916222 , Reply# 8   1/18/2017 at 13:02 (2,648 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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"Why not just put a freakin wringer on it?" Because nowadays people have personal trainers and personal lawyers. One would see the wringer and immediately think "hummm i can buy this washer and have an accident with it, break one or two fingers and sue the company in a few millions. Easy money!" |
Post# 916223 , Reply# 9   1/18/2017 at 13:04 (2,648 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Thomas, I think you have some interesting ideas and when I read your last post I can really see that your idea may have a real place in less developed areas. If you use really heavy weight plastic this could work out well, but I do think it would be essential to market this washer with the option to purchase a companion spin drier, or a manual wringer for the more cost conscious, but you do need to provide some way to extract the water. After reconsidering your idea I think you could be on to something.
Good luck with your endeavor! Eddie |
Post# 916224 , Reply# 10   1/18/2017 at 13:17 (2,648 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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recently we had to pay for a broken nail... the user put the hand in the tub and touched the impeller (Miniwash) with the washer running and had a broken NAIL! A week later we had a lawyer knocking at our door. The judge understood it's quite stupid to do that and we didn't have to pay anything. but you know... its a "Millenials" world, we don't want to take the risk. |
Post# 916274 , Reply# 12   1/18/2017 at 18:46 (2,647 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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The matchin spin dryer is a "big ass" spin dryer and can spin the load all at once. Just place it next to the washer. Ok, you will need to squeeze the clothes manually after the cycle is done, or wait something around 5 minutes to let the clothes drip enough to be removed from the washer without making a huge mess. In both cases there will be no more than a few drops on the floor. |
Post# 916282 , Reply# 15   1/18/2017 at 20:04 (2,647 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Wringer idea is dead, no go, forget it, won't happen, zip, nil, nada, move on.
In the USA at least the liability issue would cause few to risk even distribution, much less manufacture and sales. First time anyone (especially if a child) was harmed the wounded and or his guardians would get all lawyered up, and it would be off to the races. Leaving aside the liability issue you'd have to find another substance for the wringer rollers instead of rubber. Petrol and or chemicals derived from same will attack rubber. In the heyday of wringers, mangles and conventional washing machines soap was still king of laundry day. In later years Maytag and others that continued with wringer washers into the 1950's and 1960's must have found something else to make the rollers from (that wouldn't be harmed by detergents), and or ways to lessen the potential damage. Probably the best system for this new design is one already thought of by Unimac; a twin tub washer/extractor. This or simply selling the units separate; washer and extractor. Cannot speak for outside of the USA but American housewives and pretty much everyone else that does laundry have largely rejected any sort of semi-automatic washing machines. Those that do and or remain supply a niche market that likely won't grow very much. If California's drought kept on for a few more years that could have sparked large scale interest in semi-automatics out of concerns for water savings; but they've got plenty of water out there now. |
Post# 916284 , Reply# 17   1/18/2017 at 20:41 (2,647 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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Another idea I just had: a "reuse water" button. When activated, it will turn of the pump. the washer will follow the whole cycle without draining and refilling and then shut off, allowing the user to remove the clothes and reuse the suds for a second load. |
Post# 916289 , Reply# 18   1/18/2017 at 21:14 (2,647 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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that it be made in a factory with union representation. IBEW in fact.
I can't budge on this negotiation point.
My father may be gone, but his union spirit lives forever. So in a way, he lives forever. |
Post# 916502 , Reply# 20   1/20/2017 at 08:51 (2,646 days old) by yoblount (TX)   |   | |
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Thomas
Not to hi-jack this thread, but what model is this "big-ass" spin dryer? I checked the Laundry Alternative website and found a 22-lb spin dryer. Is this the one? With all of this talk about spin dryers/centrifuges I am now thinking about getting one. Lol BTW, I have the Super Compact automatic washer and just LOVE it! I use it weekly to wash my "too small for the front loader" loads of gym clothes/socks, and dog bedding. Just carry it over to the sink and wash away. |
Post# 916882 , Reply# 25   1/22/2017 at 05:54 (2,644 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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If this is true it is absolutely stupid, A goverment should never regulate how a product is made, but rather only energy usage of the product { and people think the EPA is bad in the US, LOL ]
Porcelain Enamel coatings can and are very ecological and cheap to manufacture if companies invest in modern safe furnaces to manufacture parts. Whirlpool is still making millions of PE wash baskets a year, and SQ makes all there top load washer outer tubs with PE coatings.
Porcelain coated steel is much more recyclable than plastic when a product reaches the end of life.
Porcelain enamel is not likley to ever go away in home appliances, range tops, oven liners to name two uses that can not be easily replaced. And of course making Glass, Dinnerware, Ceramic Tile, Sinks & Bath Tubs, Toilets and the list could go on and on of things that need high temperature ovens to produce. |
Post# 916886 , Reply# 26   1/22/2017 at 06:24 (2,644 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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John--You hit the nail on the head and drove it in with one blow!!!Long live PE!!!!Down with crappy mold and mildew-odor absorbing plastic!Dumb regs in that area where PE can't be made. |
Post# 917243 , Reply# 28   1/23/2017 at 23:39 (2,642 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Have been looking at that "jumbo" spin dryer for awhile now, but just cannot get myself to pull the trigger.
Reviews are all over the place but upshot seems to be the older spin dryers by LA (with metal basket) were better. As for blankets IIRC the directions in owner's manual states not to put them in this spinner. Since wanted a larger spin dryer for just that reason that gave pause as well. www.amazon.com/Laundry-Al... Will keep looking out for a used small capacity Bock or Montex extractor. Have waited this long and am in no huge rush. While the older Miele isn't good for bulky items like blankets, Lavamat has no issues. Then there is always the Maytag wringer washer. Failing either of those two final option is putting the blanket through hand powered mangle. Have done it before...... |
Post# 917258 , Reply# 30   1/24/2017 at 03:28 (2,642 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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If a modern Maytag wringer appeared on the market it would just sit there because no one would buy it other than perhaps a very few very eccentric individuals. |
Post# 965628 , Reply# 33   11/2/2017 at 14:59 (2,360 days old) by wringer (x)   |   | |
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Post# 965672 , Reply# 35   11/2/2017 at 20:09 (2,359 days old) by iej (.... )   |   | |
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It probably would breech all sorts of present day US and EU safety standards. You'd have to have some kind of system to feed the clothes safely into the wringer without risk to fingers. |
Post# 965732 , Reply# 36   11/3/2017 at 07:42 (2,359 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Not to let a kid around a wringer washer, they should be run thru it feet first!!LOL, It amazes me the total lack of common sense in the world today, I'm going to get a good wringer washer one of these days, hopefully a Norge. |
Post# 965737 , Reply# 37   11/3/2017 at 08:01 (2,359 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Will say it again; Satan will be placing an order for fur coats before wringer washing machines ever make any serious return to the market.
Consumer Reports and others couldn't wait to kill off the things, nor did they stop after around the 1950's or so reminding women there simply were far safer (and better) ways to get through wash day. Even *IF* anyone thought about reintroducing a wringer washer design, it is almost all but certain the *suits* (attorneys) would strongly caution against any such venture. Just one child or adult is maimed or suffers any sort of injury from a modern incarnation of wringer washer, and said company will be sued off face of earth. Leaving all that aside, wringer washers just aren't very practical for most households, nor very energy efficient. Unless wash water is reused (something many find gross), wringer washers like all top loaders of old use lots of water. Next power wringers at best equaled around 200rpm spin speed. Unless that laundry is going to be hung to dry you will need a very powerful dryer to bake out all that moisture so things dry in a reasonable amount of time. Don't know off hand but does anyone still make dryers that reached the high temps of some units of old? |