Thread Number: 68871
/ Tag: Wringer Washers
Help! Kenmore visimatic trouble |
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Post# 916752 , Reply# 2   1/21/2017 at 11:42 (2,623 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 916761 , Reply# 3   1/21/2017 at 13:04 (2,623 days old) by vacuumguy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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I'm going to try a different penetrating fluid to see if it helps,does anyone know about that Whirlpool nut? |
Post# 917011 , Reply# 6   1/22/2017 at 19:56 (2,621 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 917761 , Reply# 9   1/26/2017 at 20:49 (2,617 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 918337 , Reply# 11   1/30/2017 at 19:58 (2,613 days old) by vacuumguy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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The Whirlpool spanner nut came in and it's too small, trying to figure out what step to take next, probably try a different wrench. On the plus side I finished the new lid and it looks pretty spiffy if I do say so myself. |
Post# 918367 , Reply# 12   1/31/2017 at 00:32 (2,613 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 918423 , Reply# 13   1/31/2017 at 09:52 (2,613 days old) by vacuumguy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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I'll have to see what they have, I found a place close to me that will have a nut that would work.... for 30 bucks. Oh well it's worth it to keep the washer going. |
Post# 918498 , Reply# 14   1/31/2017 at 19:01 (2,612 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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The lid is really cool. Did you cut it yourself--if so, how?--or did the store cut it for you? About tearing into it: if you are mechanically inclined and can't wait to get at it, by all means, go for it; but if you're eager to get washing, just spray the big nut on top of the column with silicone to stop the squeaking. Have been using Garage Door Opener on my squeaking parts.
I have the same machine as you do. Mine needed a new control panel since I could only get it to work using a stick match in the dial hull to depress the contact point. Also, changed the filter into a fill port. These Visimatics are fun, powerful, dramatic, and wonderful washing machines. No other wringer is as safe--yet strong !--and distinctive looking as the Visimatic. Visi comes form the Latin word to see, ( video, videre, visi, vissus are the pricipal parts of the verb). Visi itself means seeing, and with the Visimatic you can see everything, thus aborting any trouble before it happens. Good luck and many pleasures with your new Lady. Pix, shortly. |
Post# 918502 , Reply# 15   1/31/2017 at 19:05 (2,612 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 918503 , Reply# 16   1/31/2017 at 19:08 (2,612 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 918504 , Reply# 17   1/31/2017 at 19:16 (2,612 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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is really copper, and when I pulled the machine out of a heap, trucked it home, and it didn't work, I freaked out. All of the functions of the machine: extreme wringing, turbo-fast pump, wicked agitation, and the timer are controlled by that little tab. Once I figured it out, and stuck a little stick in there, it was pure bliss thereafter.
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Post# 918507 , Reply# 18   1/31/2017 at 19:29 (2,612 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 918594 , Reply# 20   2/1/2017 at 10:34 (2,612 days old) by dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA))   |   | |
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Post# 918666 , Reply# 21   2/1/2017 at 19:48 (2,611 days old) by vacuumguy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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I took the pump out and it was full of build up. The part of the shaft that the impeller goes over is frozen solid. Is there anything I should look out for or any tips on the easiest way to get it free? |
Post# 918694 , Reply# 23   2/1/2017 at 21:28 (2,611 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Neutral, forward, and reverse. Are you sure the controls are set properly for "forward" motion?
Yes, all wringer washers by this time reversed IIRC. It allows wringing from either direction so best to take advantage of all those 28 various positions. Reversing also allows the removal of things incorrectly fed into the wringer, stuck and or bunched up. |
Post# 918765 , Reply# 25   2/2/2017 at 11:57 (2,611 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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The pump--been there, done that. Luckily your impeller is intact; mine not so much--hardly any left ;'D-- on this earlier Lady K. When you mentioned a belt replacement, I agreed having used vacuum belts and auto store tubing for Hoovers and Maytag TT's, but I scratched my head in self doubt because I couldn't remember a belt when I was underneath the Lady K's.
As you found out, there is no pump belt; in fact the only wringer washer I've seen that uses a belt driven pump is the Norge. It's a cool lookin' apparatus. Next time I get under the Norge, I'll snap a pic. |
Post# 918767 , Reply# 26   2/2/2017 at 12:10 (2,611 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Once I got a new pump she was good to go, but still needs a timer to amke her more automatic. You know how to determine the date of your machine, right? The first two digits after the 110, is the year of manufacture.
About the wringer: I have the same exact issue with a Speed Queen, so if you figure it out, let me know what to do. Thank You. Also, the WD silicone should work fine. I think it may be a new product. When I bought a new can of Garage Door Opener the other day, there was a can of the WD S right next to it, so I bought both. The lid over the headlight on my Firebird kept sticking when the weather here goes full Arctic, and the WD S loosened it right up. |
Post# 918775 , Reply# 27   2/2/2017 at 13:11 (2,611 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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The top rod goes up to the pump, while the bottom rod goes rides against the main pulley. Borg Warner Norge was one of the best. Notice the B W stamp on the tranny. Their Wringer washer pumps were unusual not only in the belt and pulley design, but the pump impeller itself is almost flush with the chrome screen over the drain port. In an empty tub. if you move in close you can actually watch the impeller start spinning, and the wicked gurgle is right there in your ear. Haven't met another machine where the impeller is right there, up close 'n personal. Lots of fun. Have an ancient Norge in the basement; everything works, Norge's pumps seemingly indestructible.
Again, the best of luck on the wringer. My bet is that you'll figure it out. Let us know. |
Post# 918776 , Reply# 28   2/2/2017 at 13:11 (2,611 days old) by VacuumGuy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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I'm going to try and work on the wringer some tonight, ill have to see what the service manual says about the one way problem if it mentions it at all. |
Post# 918777 , Reply# 29   2/2/2017 at 13:13 (2,611 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 918965 , Reply# 30   2/3/2017 at 13:31 (2,610 days old) by VacuumGuy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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My uncle works at a steel manufacture and was able to cut out a wrench, Ill try to get the project most of the way done by tonight but as they say "slow and steady wins the race" |
Post# 918997 , Reply# 31   2/3/2017 at 17:06 (2,610 days old) by vacuumguy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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Got the tub off!!!!!!! That as a pain in the butt but that tool helped big time. I learned about the oil pad on the pump so I know why it froze up |
Post# 919017 , Reply# 32   2/3/2017 at 18:51 (2,609 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 919193 , Reply# 34   2/4/2017 at 13:17 (2,609 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 919313 , Reply# 36   2/4/2017 at 21:43 (2,608 days old) by vacuumguy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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Well the old oil is out time to put the new stuff in :-D after this, I'll replace the motor and gearbox and see what Whirlpool has to say about the wringer |
Post# 920624 , Reply# 40   2/11/2017 at 00:06 (2,602 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 921970 , Reply# 43   2/17/2017 at 09:16 (2,596 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 922063 , Reply# 45   2/17/2017 at 21:36 (2,595 days old) by vacuumguy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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The control panel and knob have been coated in black lacquer, the pump and control knobs have fresh chrome paint, the skirt and wringer shaft housing are 90% prepped for white lacquer and that will be done tomorrow |
Post# 922135 , Reply# 46   2/18/2017 at 06:28 (2,595 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 922161 , Reply# 47   2/18/2017 at 10:58 (2,595 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 922179 , Reply# 48   2/18/2017 at 13:35 (2,595 days old) by vacuumguy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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You know, now that you say that I do remember thinking there was some noise coming from that area. I think it might have been part of problem being that it was hard to turn but not the whole issue |
Post# 922895 , Reply# 50   2/21/2017 at 16:56 (2,592 days old) by vacuumguy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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Okay everyone I can't for the life of me figure out how the main round gear and worm gear go together without binding half way through the rotation. Can anyone give me any tips or tricks. I really want to use this machine but its putting up a good fight |
Post# 923340 , Reply# 52   2/23/2017 at 10:54 (2,590 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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fight. Brought a smile. You're beginning to sound like a seasoned old pro. Was it Rustoleum you used for the Chrome. I used gold to paint my metal Hydractor. It's really good stuff.
Pretty exciting, Mark. Buttery smooth and almost ready to roll. Such amazing machines, and you'll probably have it forever. |
Post# 923473 , Reply# 53   2/23/2017 at 20:44 (2,589 days old) by vacuumguy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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I used a paint called VHT specialty products plate finish for the chrome. I'll put a picture of what it looks like on the castors. And at this point I feel like a seasoned pro lol. I'm letting everything dry and will probably reassemble this weekend! |
Post# 925397 , Reply# 54   3/6/2017 at 22:31 (2,578 days old) by VacuumGuy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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Finally got the first 3 loads washed rinsed and wringed and it hummed along. Gonna do some more tomorrow but it's time to call it a night! Thanks for the help everyone, I couldn't have done it without you all😁 |
Post# 925404 , Reply# 55   3/7/2017 at 00:38 (2,578 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 925435 , Reply# 56   3/7/2017 at 06:01 (2,578 days old) by VacuumGuy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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So far I haven't taken the wringer apart,sorting out every other little problem took so long that thing burnt me out. But I'm sure once I get a few laundry days out of it my batteries will be ready to mess around with the wringer. Pics will be up later this afternoon! |
Post# 925465 , Reply# 57   3/7/2017 at 10:29 (2,578 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 925489 , Reply# 58   3/7/2017 at 13:05 (2,578 days old) by VacuumGuy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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The wringer actually is broken as it only runs in one direction but that will be looked at in the future. Right now I'm able to do everything I need to so its gonna sit on the back burner. |
Post# 925589 , Reply# 60   3/7/2017 at 20:03 (2,577 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Bradross fixed his "48 Kenmore with a vac belt. My "48 is in a shed awaiting warmer weather and then I will measure with what I need for a belt and my pump will hopefully work fine again. Prefer your Visi-Matic but mine is just like the same Kenmore my mother had. According to the posts in "48 Kenmore wringer, mine is next to what should be the then Lady K. Doesnt matter, if you love it who cares but you.
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Post# 925656 , Reply# 61   3/8/2017 at 10:46 (2,577 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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What a nice paint & lid job; it looks like a demo model !
Have you figured out that if you swing the wringer to the right side of the tub, you'll be able to wring forwards? Thanks for the pics. Glad to see you have a working filter; thought it was missing. These machines are really wonderful. What a ball ! |
Post# 925852 , Reply# 63   3/9/2017 at 13:38 (2,576 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 984366 , Reply# 66   2/25/2018 at 22:40 (2,222 days old) by VacuumGuy99 (North Western PA)   |   | |
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I got a set of wash tubs from the 50s, a few parts turned up missing but hopefully they turn up soon.
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Post# 984735 , Reply# 68   2/28/2018 at 20:09 (2,219 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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That picture is so much like what I would imagine stage one of the Philco Ford twin tub assembly line would have looked like; indeed, Philco made the machine in that very color. I wonder!!! "Wouldn't it be nice......." Beach Boys.
Now for March [Wringer] Madness : Through a one-time-only user error, I broke the wringer on my Pink Lady. It was a late summer night. I was finishing up a few items that had been soaking. It was 1 a.m. The piece went through and started wrapping around the rollers. For some reason still unknown, I just stood there and watched, taking no action to abort the wringer madness. Suddenly the wringer snapped, and the world ended, (joke). The photo shows how the lever actually sheared, a clean cut. Alas, it will have to soldered, beyond my pay grade. Here's why this was such a shame. Of all the wringers I've know, this particular Kenmore offering is by far the best. By that I mean, first of all the fastest of any wringer, a real jet, the clothes simply fly ; secondly the reset is a one-handed affair that is as easy as closing a Frigidaire refrigerator from the mid-60's--a light snap. A weak old man--me, one day--could reset it with ease; hence its exquisite value. Thirdly, it's lighter and smaller than most. I have been using the wringer locking the gear downward ever since. Then last week, after months of mickey-rigged bliss, just as your wringer failed, so did this. The gear will not stay engaged. 100 failed attempts. So I'm at a loss, but I popped the Visi-matic wringer on instead, the tortoise and the hare ascendant! |
Post# 984736 , Reply# 69   2/28/2018 at 20:10 (2,219 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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