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need KA Dishwasher interchange info!
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Post# 916786   1/21/2017 at 15:42 (2,650 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)        

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Will the motor, pump, drain valve or any other significant mechanical parts from a KDI-18 interchange with a KDC-17? I realize the timer will not. Thanks in advance for any info!




Post# 916792 , Reply# 1   1/21/2017 at 16:27 (2,650 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)        

The drain valve should be fine, but the pump & motor will not interchange.  They are different sizes. 


Post# 916801 , Reply# 2   1/21/2017 at 17:46 (2,650 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        
absolutely correct, Bigalsf

Even the constant rinse is different! But you can use the racks if you have to, the Rinse aid dispensers interchange, the blower and heated air assy should swap out easily as well as the fill valve, airgap and some of the hardware.
Why are you not keeping the 18? It will really do a much better job of cleaning than the 17.


Post# 916806 , Reply# 3   1/21/2017 at 18:01 (2,650 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)        
thanks fellers...

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Steve sometimes I wish I'd saved one of my 18s, the 2nd wash arm and other features are good but I had too many KAs in the shed and had to cut down, so I saved the KDC-17 that is identical to the first new d/w we ever bought in 1974. It was in better shape and I liked the fact that they don't tend to have some of the problems of the KDSs of that era, and frankly the 17 that we had for 15 years never had a problem and did a fine job of cleaning for a family of 5, you just had to know how to load it properly, which to me is no big deal, I'm anal about loading anyway (the pin locations on my new Chinese made FD 18" machine drive me absolutely crazy!) I never had much of the yibble problem, its all in how you load. Plus it's a very simple machine, and like all KAs of the time, very well built. And... it's Coppertone!

I assume the filter and 4 way HS arm will interchange as well?


Post# 916818 , Reply# 4   1/21/2017 at 19:04 (2,650 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        
Not exactly..

The filter is completely different but the arm IS the same.
They changed the size of the pump assy so nothing of the old ones will interchange with the newer one.

I know what you mean about racking and loading the 17 as our first dw was a KDS15 back in 1967 and we soon learned how to do it right. And yes, they sure can clean well. But I will still take an 18 over any of the earlier ones. My favorite is still the 21/22 design and one of these days I will put the 21 pump into my 18 and make it a real champ.



Post# 916831 , Reply# 5   1/21/2017 at 19:43 (2,650 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Differences Between A KD-17 and A KD-18 DWs

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The dryer housings are different sizes and the heaters are different wattage's [ 17s are 1100W and 18s are 800W heaters.]

 

The KDI-17 and KDC-17 were more reliable and less complicated than the S models especially the 18-23 S models.

 

But if you are really looking for the best consistent cleaning try a 1985-aproxmatly a 2000 WP Power Clean or Kenmore Ultra-Wash DW.

 

No Hobart KA DW ever had ideal cycle design and NONE give you a guaranteed main wash and final rinse temperature of around 150F, and WPs convection drying [ on air dry ] dries as well or better than KAs forced air drying using the wasteful and DW damaging heat dry.



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