Thread Number: 69510
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Post# 923926 , Reply# 1   2/26/2017 at 16:04 (2,609 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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I would go with the lg. Because they are in your kitchen, I would rule out the speed queens just for the fact that they will be the noisiest. Save yourself the $ on the extended service contract and just buy a $10 surge protector. |
Post# 923934 , Reply# 2   2/26/2017 at 16:28 (2,609 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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By far the best deal in laundry equipment is buying nearly new used stuff. Or better yet, new but unboxed machines used in home staging or other similar backstories. I almost grabbed a TOL Samsung FL washer unused for $500 on Friday...not the $1400 plus it would retail for. This machine advertised in your area is going for $215 and has only been used 2 years. Ad copy: Very good washer for sale. It works really well and never had any trouble with anything not working. The only issue it has is that it accumulated some mold around the rubber part and we don't want to fuss with it so we want to just a buy a new one. It was purchased brand new at the end of 2014 so it's fairly new. Otherwise, it works beautifuly. If your interested or have any questions. please call the phone number listed in the contact info. We will be able to show it thursday the 23rd after 1 pm. There has been interest so it is first come first serve. thank you! CLICK HERE TO GO TO Stricklybojack's LINK on Sacramento Craigslist |
Post# 923952 , Reply# 3   2/26/2017 at 19:34 (2,608 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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I'd buy the LG WM3670 FL, they clean very well and spin out well too, if water level becomes an issue, a "water plus" option is available which will add more water. |
Post# 923955 , Reply# 4   2/26/2017 at 19:49 (2,608 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Speed Queen. LG just has too many problems with the electronics. Modern Maytags aren't - they're just cheap Whirlpool Estate/Roper clones at four times the price. Mutton dressed as lamb. No matter how cute the Maytag guy is in the ads - you're just paying too doggone much for a Kirkland. Personally? I'd go vintage Maytag. Last longer, be less trouble.
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Post# 924007 , Reply# 5   2/27/2017 at 07:16 (2,608 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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SQ, but shop for a better price than you found, We charge less than $1600 for the pair you looked including del & install, in fact people that pick them up at our shop get them for less than $1400.
Next best bet something from WP-MT, but skip the service contract, and keep in mind that dryers have more service calls in the first 15 years of life than the washer, washers just tend to eventually have a big repair that makes them not worth repairing, but that seldom occurs in the first five years, and if it does a decent manufacturer will usually give you some of your money back.
I would skip the LGs the dryers are cheap copies of WP dryers and are hard to repair and troublesome.
I have never had a complaint about SQs dryer lint filter but you can remove the screw that holds it in place and take the filter out to clean it if you like. The SQ dryer is very much like your MT dryer except it is faster drying and bigger inside, I don't know whats not to like, we certainly have had no complaints after selling hundreds of them. |
Post# 924015 , Reply# 7   2/27/2017 at 08:26 (2,608 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 924019 , Reply# 8   2/27/2017 at 09:26 (2,608 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Combo John, would you now have a SQ TL machine in your washroom? Cause in the past you have said, "no way!" SQ dryers & TL machines feel and function like the crudely design equipment they are. The upside is they supposedly will last longer. I however see few if any pepole posting about their 20 year old SQ's other than they leaked like hell and were chucked out long short of 20 years of use. Both of the SQ machines you are looking at are looked down upon by Reviewed.com as being some of the worst performing machines out there *for the money*. Add to that persons who rave about SQ but later qualify with, "make sure you have a good SQ tech in your area", and "buy from a dealer who will go to bat for you in case something come up"... says to me i should have looked longer before i bought SQ's. Appliances are a collection of components which may or may not have been made with good quality control. I own a trouble prone SQ washer and the feeling is i'm stuck with it cause SQ doesn't replace or refund like some other domestic manufacturers seem to. That said when it works i like it...but such a qualifier seems ridiculous considering the price paid. This post was last edited 02/27/2017 at 10:12 |
Post# 924026 , Reply# 9   2/27/2017 at 09:58 (2,608 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Assembled in USA with domestic and globally sourced components. Et cetera. |
Post# 924027 , Reply# 10   2/27/2017 at 10:13 (2,608 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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I'm a German living in America, not a German-American. I know the appliance market in Germany and in the US, so: 1) Extended warranties in the EU are not comparable to the very expensive and highly limited not-worth-the-paper-they're-written-on 'policies' common in the US. 2) LG appliances in Europe are NOT the same as LG appliances sold in the US. I loved my LG washer as much as my Miele in Munich, but the standards and components and QC is not the same, at all for the appliances sold here in the US as it is for their appliances sold in Europe. Stop comparing them, you're comparing two entirely different things. 3) Maytag in the US, today, may look prettier than Roper/Estate but you're still paying several times as much for the same Roper/Estate innards. Which aren't that bad - just, why pay Cadillac Cimarron prices for a Chevy Celebrity? 4) Water usage for TLs verus water usage for FLs in the EU is a false equivalence. Apart from the fact that rinsing clothes in water doesn't limit it's re-use. Must we go down the incorrect classification of Natriumphosphat in Germany pathway again on every single aspect of laundry? 5) Speed Queen is overpriced. So is Persil. Get over it. 6) Performance measurements of washers have to be read through very carefully. Öko-Test magazine used to fail the performance of a washer/dishwasher if it was shipped with protective Styropor instead of honeycomb recycling (sic) cardboard, regardless of how well it otherwise worked. Same applies to 'test' companies in the US - when you go through the fine print, you find out the tests aren't relevant to the real world.
Martin is, as always, quite clear here as to his questions - I think we should answer them as did John regarding the lint filter, not pontificate about comparisons of apples to oranges. |
Post# 924028 , Reply# 11   2/27/2017 at 10:17 (2,608 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Robert I said that I would never have one in my personal laundry room as I prefer FL washers, but we sell SQ TL washers 4 to 1 over their FL machines, and we have had about ZERO problems with any of the SQ products we have sold, this includes the 600+ TL, FL and dryers we have sold.
We are also providing the service for six other companies selling SQ in our area and I under stand that SQ has sold more that 15,000 have been sold in our service area and we have had almost no service calls and none serious, I don't know of a single machine that had to be replaced. |
Post# 924029 , Reply# 12   2/27/2017 at 10:23 (2,608 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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"Almost" no service calls? That's your story and you're sticking to it? I had trouble booking an SQ tech he was so busy... How do you know so much about fixing these machines having almost never been on a service call? Really, it doesn't add up... This post was last edited 02/27/2017 at 11:04 |
Post# 924035 , Reply# 13   2/27/2017 at 11:01 (2,608 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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It was even a landline POTS phone. Called our appliance sales and service centre. They service all of Southern Wyoming, Nebraska panhandle, much of Northern Colorado. Here's what the man (in his mid-70s, been doing this since the 1950s) said: Speed Queen has some problems with their harnesses. Corrosion. Some problems with premature bearing failures. Nothing, absolutely nothing even close to comparable to the problems with GE/LG. Better than the Whirlpool group. He won't do Samsung (won't repeat his comments on them). Says, if he could only take one machine with him to a desert island (we're in a deep-freeze here, so his choice of words is telling), it would be a SQ TL.
So - zero service calls, ever? Not what John said and not what my local parts guru says. So glad he bought back the business! But nothing, at all, even remotely close to the LG problems, nothing at all in the ballpark with the GE trash coming out these days. And better than the entire Whirlpool group.
Oh, and, yes, dear anal-retentives: I specifically asked whether this was adjusted for volume. He said 'absolutely'. For the volume, Whirlpool today makes some very good machines, highly serviceable, more easily serviced than SQ. But - SQ failed far less often.
Let's be honest - isn't some of this simply the old 'I'm a Chevy guy vs. I'm a Ford dude?' |
Post# 924037 , Reply# 14   2/27/2017 at 11:10 (2,608 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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I adjusted my comment Pantera. The essence is unchanged, but do not want to appear to disparage Combo John or anyone else here. I also clearly made my remarks about SQ with deference to what one pays new....but maybe you didn't see that? This post was last edited 02/27/2017 at 15:21 |
Post# 924051 , Reply# 16   2/27/2017 at 13:50 (2,608 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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The edit. My browser doesn't update this website automatically. I, also, meant no offence - we've been through all of this for many years now and we'll still be going through it for many decades to come. Including the hysterical water usage (I lived in Neuhausen for pity's sake - worrying about water in Germany is about as silly as it gets). Including the whole false claims about the danger of TSP. |
Post# 924052 , Reply# 17   2/27/2017 at 13:52 (2,608 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 924064 , Reply# 21   2/27/2017 at 15:13 (2,608 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Post# 924075 , Reply# 23   2/27/2017 at 16:59 (2,608 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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I made some adjustments |
Post# 924091 , Reply# 24   2/27/2017 at 18:41 (2,608 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Martin, that's why I won't use the quick wash on my Duet. How, I will say the LG with TurboWash selected will give a spin/spray rinse after the deep rinse. But if I was using this wash3er, I'd still select an optional rinse. I also cannot see anything getting clean in 3 minutes unless it just needs to be refreshed. I did notice in the owners manual this speed cycle does allow steam as an option. |
Post# 924094 , Reply# 26   2/27/2017 at 18:56 (2,608 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Your model, the WM3670HWA, is the revised model of the WM3370HWA which was at 4.3 CF, does not offer the Turbowash option. |
Post# 924103 , Reply# 27   2/27/2017 at 19:40 (2,607 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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The SQ TL are very well made machines and will likely outlast the other options you are looking at but are old school. That being said I would still choose them but with the electronic controller so you get a FULL 5 YEAR warranty. Without buying a service contract. If you could swing it the BEST option is the SQ FL. A true commercial washer adapted to home use. They are quite expensive but will last for decades. I do not regret buying mine. WK78 |
Post# 924116 , Reply# 29   2/27/2017 at 21:24 (2,607 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Now there's a SQ set at the right price, $500. Get yourself a truck and save almost $3,000 off what these cost new (with tax and bases) not long ago. In San Jose: CLICK HERE TO GO TO Stricklybojack's LINK on San Francisco Craigslist |
Post# 924135 , Reply# 31   2/28/2017 at 02:50 (2,607 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Back when I got my Duet in 2005 and reading the forums, they did not recommend you use them on a 2nd floor or wood floor unless it was reinforced. I do NOT think this is the case now with modern FL washers.
I will not argue that the SQ TL washers would be great, but out of those 3 things you mentioned, I'd get the LG. But if you had listed WP or MT FL washers as one of your options, out of all of those, those would be my first choice. But that recent post showing the 3,000 used SQ FL's on craigslist - I'd take those too. |
Post# 924185 , Reply# 37   2/28/2017 at 14:20 (2,607 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 924198 , Reply# 38   2/28/2017 at 15:36 (2,607 days old) by Bobbi (Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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OK, sounds like you are pretty strong for going with the SQ. What about going with used machines, from a dealer and with a warranty, to keep the price down? Or did someone already mention that? |