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Post# 929613   3/29/2017 at 19:53 (2,556 days old) by carlvs (Central IL)        

Just came across this, scroll down the page for pictures. No interior shots, but outside looks nice.

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Post# 929621 , Reply# 1   3/29/2017 at 20:54 (2,556 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )        

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Looks like it has 2 pedals...one for the fridge and one for the freezer?

Post# 929622 , Reply# 2   3/29/2017 at 21:05 (2,556 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
The Sedan De Ville of refrigeration.

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I'd gladly pay the higher electric bill for that refrigerator. How cool. It looks like it will be a good sale, lots to see.

Post# 929634 , Reply# 3   3/29/2017 at 22:58 (2,556 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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That's the only remaining bottom-freezer model we had in Canada after 1965 according to my literature. This one with two door pedals. I have never seen one like it and I wish it was closer as it's quite high on my wish list!!

Post# 929845 , Reply# 4   3/31/2017 at 05:09 (2,554 days old) by funktionalart (Rison, AR)        

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A MAJOR item on my wish list, too…Knowing this is out there is gonna cause me to lose a lot of sleep. Is that not a 1966 model?

Post# 929847 , Reply# 5   3/31/2017 at 05:28 (2,554 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Styled like a 66. Beautiful.


Post# 929848 , Reply# 6   3/31/2017 at 05:31 (2,554 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I like the TV/Phone.


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Post# 929977 , Reply# 7   3/31/2017 at 17:30 (2,554 days old) by Travis ()        

So, who's going to get it?

 

All I can do is go look at it and caress the chrome.


Post# 929986 , Reply# 8   3/31/2017 at 20:16 (2,554 days old) by Travis ()        

Is anyone going to get this?  It's $175.00


Post# 930002 , Reply# 9   3/31/2017 at 21:48 (2,554 days old) by ken (NYS)        

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You better save it Travis.

Post# 930003 , Reply# 10   3/31/2017 at 21:56 (2,554 days old) by funktionalart (Rison, AR)        

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SAVE IT TRAVIS!! PLEASE. And when you tire of it, I only ask I get 1st crack at it….I just can't afford to ship it right now :(


Post# 930007 , Reply# 11   3/31/2017 at 22:13 (2,554 days old) by Travis ()        

I'll do my best.  It all depends on how beefy the folks at the sale are.  I assume it will be like the older models and weigh a ton.


Post# 930010 , Reply# 12   3/31/2017 at 22:37 (2,554 days old) by funktionalart (Rison, AR)        

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Travis--it should weigh about 375lb., maybe a little less. I think that's about what my '63 Imperial weighs and it is a 70" tall model.

Post# 930013 , Reply# 13   3/31/2017 at 22:54 (2,554 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Travis, please save it! I can't afford to get it now and driving that far isn't an option now but if it was local, I'd be running to get it!

Post# 930014 , Reply# 14   3/31/2017 at 23:03 (2,554 days old) by funktionalart (Rison, AR)        

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Our little Frigidaire crowd has damned good taste in Refrigerators… :D

Post# 930069 , Reply# 15   4/1/2017 at 13:55 (2,553 days old) by Travis ()        

I bought it and the three ice cube trays. It looks to be in fine shape, though a little dirty. There's some wear on the crisper drawer paint. I'm glad it's a smaller one!

Post# 930072 , Reply# 16   4/1/2017 at 14:11 (2,553 days old) by Carlvs (Central IL)        

That's wonderful! Start a thread with pictures!

Post# 930083 , Reply# 17   4/1/2017 at 15:52 (2,553 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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.
Seems like refrigerators peaked in the mid sixties if not sooner...outside of reliabilty and efficiency considerations. Sytling and tactlie quality/standards seem to only go lower from the height of units like this.
What comes in the 70's or later that might top this one?


Post# 930091 , Reply# 18   4/1/2017 at 17:18 (2,553 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Best Frost-Free Refs Ever Built

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Really did not come about till the 80s through the late 90s, during this time period build quality and the quality of materials improved greatly.

Also as efficiency improved compressors no longer run so hot or have to work as hard, this has really improved longevity, we hardly ever see bad compressors any longer with the exception of a few brands and bad model compressors.

It is true that many refs today have gotten so complicated and gadget laden that fewer of today's really fancy refs will last as long as the 80s - 90s models, but then look at how heavily built refs like this Frigidaire were and how few survived, I have no dough that we will see many of the current complex refs going strong in 30-40 years from now.

John L.


Post# 930092 , Reply# 19   4/1/2017 at 17:21 (2,553 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Good save, Travis.


Post# 930100 , Reply# 20   4/1/2017 at 18:03 (2,553 days old) by Travis ()        

Thanks, I mainly wanted to see and to save it.  They were asking $175.  I offered $120 and asked for the ice cube trays that were tagged across the room.  It looks very nice, just dirty.  Everything looks to be there.

 

With John's permission, I'll let it waste some electric.  I really don't understand the fixation with efficiency.  How many people are standing in their doorways with the a/c or heat running?  The same goes for retail stores.  You're not going to get a cookie at the end of your life for saving some KW's.

 

This is a whole 5 cu ft larger that my 2 dr monitor top!


Post# 930103 , Reply# 21   4/1/2017 at 18:28 (2,553 days old) by duke ()        

Way to go Travis, I guess an antique and vintage appliance lovers website is the wrong place to talk efficiency. If you Love it and can afford it --Buy it, operate it.


Post# 930116 , Reply# 22   4/1/2017 at 20:08 (2,553 days old) by funktionalart (Rison, AR)        
Efficiency--

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My take on it: My kid sister just dropped close to $3k on a Samsung Fridge last year. It's been serviced at least 4x already and still doesn't work right. I operate "Energy Inefficient" vintage appliances--ALL of which still run, are all over 50 years of age and my cash outlay to acquire them was basically nothing. Believe it or not, my early 60s fridge adds less than $10-11 per month to the electric bill. So, $120 year vs. $3,000 out of pocket. I like my way.


Post# 930119 , Reply# 23   4/1/2017 at 20:41 (2,553 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Travis, please post pics and details, I'm very curious about the two pedal door opener and how the door button operates on this version! I have plans that aren't very detailed in my 1966 manuals. Internally, I think these are quite similar to the 16 cu-ft versions from 1964-65 but I really like the "W"- shaped doors on the 1966 and newer Imperial and Custom Imperial bottom-freezer models.

In Canada, the equivalent model was the FI16K


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Post# 930132 , Reply# 24   4/1/2017 at 22:28 (2,553 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
To me

The big difference is, and John might not agree, but the compressors in these were so much bigger and more powerful they last on and on, especially Frigidaires and Whirlpools, what gave trouble on Frigidaires was the defrost timer would hang up in the on position and end up melting the plastic parts inside the freezer...I personally would rather defrost and have a fridge that doesent have all the gizmos to break.

Post# 930165 , Reply# 25   4/2/2017 at 07:23 (2,552 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
1966 you say?

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Queue the girls and the 'Star Trek' theme!

 

lawrence


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Post# 930181 , Reply# 26   4/2/2017 at 09:30 (2,552 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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The big difference is, and John might not agree, but the compressors in these were so much bigger and more powerful they last on and on, especially Frigidaires and Whirlpools, what gave trouble on Frigidaires was the defrost timer would hang up in the on position and end up melting the plastic parts inside the freezer...I personally would rather defrost and have a fridge that doesent have all the gizmos to break. 

We had the refrigerator in the ad for a lot of years. FPCI 19 BK My dad was  a Frigidaire service tech. Frigidaire had a customer who  had a fairly new one, that got stuck in defrost, and melted the plastic in the freezer. Frigidaire replaced the refrigerator for the customer, and my dad got the old one. He replaced all the melted plastic, and fixed the defrost problem. That refrigerator was still going strong into the late 90's, when they got a new SxS.


Post# 930197 , Reply# 27   4/2/2017 at 10:58 (2,552 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Efficiency

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Hi Allen,  You don't have to buy a $3000 Samsung to get efficiency and you certainly don't buy such a ref to get long life and reliability.

 

A good [ $700 ] GE Top Freezer will keep you food better than a 60s-70s FF refrigerator operate for a 1/3 of what your older ref operates for and last for 30+ years with probably only one or two service calls at most.

 

Yes these new refs do not have as much chrome and fun styling as this cool older Frigidaire does, but in terms of overall performance and reliability this older Frigidaire ref is like comparing a 1967 Buick to a New Chevrolet Impala or other good car today.

 

As several of you know I have a 1967 Frigidaire Food-Life-Preserver in our collection and I turn it on for about 30 days a year around the holidays for overflow food storage and it fires right up and keeps things cold-frozen, but it runs more than 70% of the time and adds over $20 dollars to the power bill. This FD FLP has 4 fan motors, 3 small motors for the IM and ref door opener and the under-powered 7/32 HP compressor, This ref also has six+ electric heaters.

 

I love this cool refrigerator and have no plans to ever get rid of it, but this ref alone uses as much power as my two full sized all refs in the kitchen + the 2 full sized frost free freezers in my kitchen and the compact bar ref.

 

 


Post# 930202 , Reply# 28   4/2/2017 at 12:21 (2,552 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
John

Surely you cant mean these little pop bottle sized Matushita compressors are better than the old compressors by Copeland, Tecumseh , Frigidaire , Norge , GE or Westinghouse?????

Post# 930213 , Reply# 29   4/2/2017 at 13:59 (2,552 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Refrigerator Compressors Today

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Hi Hans, I don't know anything about Matushita compressors, but most American refs are using Embraco compressors and we almost never see a bad one.

 

These newer compressors can deliver 700-1000 BTUs of cooling capacity while only drawing 100-150 watts of power, they run cool and quietly.

 

Whirlpool owns Embraco and has been using them in most of their refs since the mid 80s when they stopped building their rotary compressors.


Post# 930220 , Reply# 30   4/2/2017 at 16:07 (2,552 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I thought

Everyone was using Japanese and Chinese stuff...Good to know SOMETHING is still ok....But you know me, I still trust vintage over anything new..LOL

Post# 930239 , Reply# 31   4/2/2017 at 19:57 (2,552 days old) by funktionalart (Rison, AR)        
John~re; efficiency

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Hi John--I don't argue your point in the least…but do want to point out that I am not the one who bought the $3000 Samsung. That was my sister--I tried to talk her out of that….and it fell on deaf ears. 3 Grand could have gotten her quite a bit of other stuff and she could've avoided the inevitable depreciation that is going to come from that Samsung in the coming 4-5 years...

As for me, My vintage fridges are not my "daily drivers" (even though they are in use all the time)--I've got a late 90s JennAir in the kitchen which does all the things I expect from a modern unit and I don't ever worry over defrost issues, running costs, etc. The 60s Coldspot and Frigidaire units are drinks/overflow and fun factor--and happily don't cost a ton of cash to operate out here as our electrical rates are FAR lower than those on the east coast and other parts of the country. I doubt I'd run them much if I lived on the eastern seaboard…

Still, I will keep hunting for a '66 Frigidaire and be forever jealous that Travis got hold of one of my dream machines!


Post# 930241 , Reply# 32   4/2/2017 at 20:03 (2,552 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
My dream fridge

Would be a 57 or 58 Coldspot Super Mart,The one with the slide out bottle shelf,and bottom freezer.And YES you do have to defrost these!

Post# 930245 , Reply# 33   4/2/2017 at 20:49 (2,552 days old) by Travis ()        

The beautiful energy hog has landed. It even has a newer defrost timer. I'll watch it's power usage and report back. Regardless, it's swanky and some people need to live a little!

Post# 930246 , Reply# 34   4/2/2017 at 21:04 (2,552 days old) by funktionalart (Rison, AR)        

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Congrats Travis! Echoing others here--pictures, pictures, PICTURES (even with old dirt still intact!). Call me when you tire of it….maybe I can swing shipping $$ by that time… :D


Post# 930254 , Reply# 35   4/2/2017 at 22:53 (2,552 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        
Defrost Timers on Old Fridges

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Aren't defrost timers on old fridges actually just little synchronis motors like one finds in electric clocks? Don't they just keep track of how long the fridge has run and then send it into defrost after so many hours? I've noticed the timer on mine is rattling a bit. If I could get to it, couldn't I put a couple of drops of turbine oil on the shaft where it rides in the bushing. Wouldn't this help keep it from failing or am I completely off base here?

Post# 930261 , Reply# 36   4/2/2017 at 23:15 (2,552 days old) by Travis ()        

These aren't the best pictures.  My lighting is poor in the garage and the space is tight.  I did change the light bulb that was burned out.  It's drawing 226 watts.  My 9 cu ft 1930 monitor top is drawing 195 across the aisle.

 

I guess I am going to hell for single personally destroying the environment by running all of these and eating meat on the same day.


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Post# 930263 , Reply# 37   4/2/2017 at 23:53 (2,552 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I guess

If that sends you to hell, I'm on my way...Now THATS a refrigerator...Chrome and porcelain..QUALITY!!!!!

Post# 930301 , Reply# 38   4/3/2017 at 07:54 (2,551 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Travis

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You live a wild and crazy life!

 

lawrence


Post# 930369 , Reply# 39   4/3/2017 at 15:25 (2,551 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
Only a 16?

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I thunk it was the bigger 19CF. Beautiful, that garage overflowing yet/


Post# 930386 , Reply# 40   4/3/2017 at 16:36 (2,551 days old) by Travis ()        

Kenny,

 

Yes, the garage is fully stocked.  It's happily spinning my meter!


Post# 930429 , Reply# 41   4/3/2017 at 18:16 (2,551 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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226 watts? At that rate everybody can afford a 1966 Frigidaire Imperial Frostproof 16!

Post# 930436 , Reply# 42   4/3/2017 at 18:43 (2,551 days old) by Travis ()        

It's actually 286 with the doors closed.  It was dark last night.

 

I want to see a 1980's or 90's fridge in 2030 or 2040 and we'll talk about durability.


Post# 930464 , Reply# 43   4/3/2017 at 21:24 (2,551 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Thanks for showing some details about it Travis! I really enjoy seeing this!

Post# 930526 , Reply# 44   4/4/2017 at 09:02 (2,550 days old) by ken (NYS)        

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You'll be able to see a 80s or 90s fridge in 2030-2040...in a picture.

Post# 930911 , Reply# 45   4/6/2017 at 18:20 (2,548 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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If the doors haven't fallen off of it yet.



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