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Post# 931706   4/10/2017 at 20:41 (2,569 days old) by Kenmore_Elite (Cal)        

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I was at Lowes 2 years ago and saw a Maytag washer on sale in the dented and dinged appliance aisle. I don't have the model number with me. It was sitting there... all lonely and abandoned because everybody wants the new lo-water washers that have an electronic brain in them. Not me. So nobody wanted this poor little Maytag, which had NO dents or scratches. Lowes had $350 on it and I asked to speak with a manager and got it for $275. What I LOVE about it is it does NOT have a darn chip or a computer brain in it to go bad (AS THEY WILL!). It's got the nice old rotary switch which will last forever. And it has an extra rinse cycle. Yum. I love two rinse cycles. And a Deep Water wash option--fill it up with water to the top. Love it.






Post# 931721 , Reply# 1   4/10/2017 at 21:47 (2,569 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Your washer is actually completely electronically controlled, it is full of chips etc and there is no mechanical timer in it.


Post# 931727 , Reply# 2   4/10/2017 at 22:09 (2,569 days old) by Kenmore_Elite (Cal)        

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Sorry, I don't think so.

Post# 931731 , Reply# 3   4/10/2017 at 22:32 (2,569 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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post a pic and model number......I am sure we can find a parts schematic....and show you all the computer boards inside....

"Deep Water Wash" option was the first clue!.....its computer controlled!


Post# 931733 , Reply# 4   4/10/2017 at 22:40 (2,569 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        
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I believe that I may have the same washer or one very similar to it. It is a Maytag Centennial MVWC415EW, and this machine does have a control board. Maytag hasn't made a washer with an electro-mechanical control for at least 5 or more years now. The tip of for you that your washer has a control board is as Martin say's it has a Deep Water cycle. Also if you press a button to start it and there is a series of lights that light up along the bottom of the control panel during operation, it has a control board.

But don't despair, this is really a very good washer, and if you read the owners manual, and use it per instructions you should be very happy with it.
Eddie


Post# 931735 , Reply# 5   4/10/2017 at 23:00 (2,569 days old) by Kenmore_Elite (Cal)        

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You guys may be right--it sounds like you know more about these things than me. But... it was actually 4 years ago I bought it--so it might be possible it was an old stock washer at Lowes--it was definitely the last one they had in that type. Unfortunately I'm in Cal. on a job and the washer is in Missouri. Also... I am absolutely positive it does not have the row of lights across under the dial, and I also don't think it has the deep water option. I was looking at pictures of the Maytags online and hoping mine had the deep water option, because it sounded neat, but actually I'm not so sure it does. When I have used it, the main dial DOES sound and turn like an electro-mechanical dial. I will continue to hope it is what I think it is. But thanks for the input. I do appreciate it. If it is indeed computer controlled with chips and 'puter boards I might just have to come back to this Thread and eat crow.

Post# 931736 , Reply# 6   4/10/2017 at 23:05 (2,569 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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If the dial has a "clickatiy" noise when you turn it and you can feel small clicks close together as you turn it, and you either pull or push the dial to start the washer, then I would say you are correct, its electro-mechanically controlled. And if it was really old stock 2 years ago its possible. Post a photo when you get home. Someone here will know for sure.
Eddie


Post# 931739 , Reply# 7   4/10/2017 at 23:36 (2,569 days old) by Kenmore_Elite (Cal)        

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Thanks ea56. I will keep this board informed, but it will be a few months before I'm through with the building job I'm currently on and can return to my farm.

Post# 931746 , Reply# 8   4/11/2017 at 00:16 (2,569 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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The model number will confirm the engineering & feature details.

The serial number will confirm the manufacture date vs. your purchase date.


Post# 931773 , Reply# 9   4/11/2017 at 06:41 (2,569 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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another BIG clue...does the lid lock?

but then again, so does an oven

and a dishwasher if you think about it......

its anyone's guess at this point!



hell, were thankful the toilet's lid doesn't have a lock on it by now....


Post# 931858 , Reply# 10   4/11/2017 at 18:07 (2,568 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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Is this your machine?

Post# 932000 , Reply# 11   4/12/2017 at 12:32 (2,567 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        
my age is showing...

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If it's not the kind of washer that suddenly stops working and shows ERROR CODE "X@!YZ3" in a display window I'd be grateful. 


Post# 932833 , Reply# 12   4/16/2017 at 22:59 (2,563 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Yeah, most people don't realize that with most of the NEW machines with "knobs and dials" if the control panel is opened up one will find an electronic gizmo that's designed to "feel" like a traditional timer.


Post# 932851 , Reply# 13   4/17/2017 at 00:41 (2,563 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Traditional timer

In my eyes, a PCB controlled washer is like a washer with serveral hundreds of timers working together.

Gates are opend according to a given patern, allowing current to flow in a certain path.


In the timer, these switches are physical, there are a few dozen if even, and are physicly moved by a actuator-cam type thing.

In a microcontroller, these switches are solid state, are hudnreds if not hundreds of thousands in one place and are switched via a eletronic current.

12 switches in one parallel cascade are FAR less likely to fail just by statistics. You, however, only have 24 outputpossibilities: 12 times on or off.

1000000 switches, interconected in several hundreds of layers: Statisticly, it is way more like that one switch breaks in there, but you have several thousand times the outputpossibilities.



That is why timers paired with standard 2 speed bi-directional motors in TLs as well as few operations (fill, wash quick, wash slow, spin quick, spin slow, maybe lock lid and a seperate drain pump) go together so well.

Running a modern FL with its infinite speed control, reaction to several not userselected inputparameters and few more operations it has to change way more frequently of of interconected timers is theoreticly possible. But you'd need hundreds of timers, all verry complicated and different from each other, that probably would fill entire rooms.

I dare to say switch per switch, times and microcontrollers fail about the same amount. In one you treat micromanging for the simplicity, in the other you get perfect mangement with a lot more complexity.


If people who sold applainces would bring that comaprison into the brains of consumers, there would have to be no tricking into thinking it is one when in reality its something else.
Just say the customer: Do you try to do your laundry particulary well, or a you just a set and forget person?
Number one makes PCBs more suited due to automatic micromanaging, the latter favors mechanicl timers.
That (still not perfect way of talking to a customer, in reality I wish before showing any machine, any sales person would take a minute or 2 and ask the customer some questions) would help a lot of people quite good already.



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