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I had the displeasure of using THIS disgusting front loader.
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Post# 933160   4/18/2017 at 16:27 (2,419 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)        

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Absolutely vile.  And yes I will name and shame: Travelodge on Sepulveda Blvd, Torrence, Los Angeles, CA.


If you're thinking of buying your first front loader, should you be worried that this dire situation is inevitable?  No, absolutely not!


The last two photos are of my own set.  They are 3 years old and are as clean as the day I bought them.  They'll be just as clean no matter how long I own them.

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Post# 933165 , Reply# 1   4/18/2017 at 17:07 (2,419 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Yes disgusting, but.....

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These are at a motel.  They are constantly being used by a "revolving door" of users that do NOT care one bit about taking care of the machines, because they don't own them (that and much of the general population don't care regardless).  PLUS, I would dare to guess the motel does NOT have a sign posted asking the washer door be left open when not in use, as that's the real issue here.   



Post# 933219 , Reply# 2   4/18/2017 at 21:36 (2,418 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        

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But as Kevin said there was probably no signage to leave the machine open/ people using it that don't give a damn. I hope you reported this to maintenance so they could replace the boot.

Post# 933224 , Reply# 3   4/18/2017 at 21:43 (2,418 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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oooh, gross!  I think I'd rather have washed my clothes in the toilet than that disgusting machine. 

Post# 933287 , Reply# 4   4/19/2017 at 03:09 (2,418 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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That generation of lg commercial should have a maintenance mode that uses an on board heater during a self clean cycle.

Post# 933296 , Reply# 5   4/19/2017 at 03:52 (2,418 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Little late, but..... you stuck your fingers in it?


My 98 Elux looks and smells like new too.  Kept a rag-towel on top to dry boot and glass.  Takes what, 20 seconds?


Our slant Westies got no special treatment; that never happened to them either.  Hot wash.

Post# 933298 , Reply# 6   4/19/2017 at 04:51 (2,418 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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I wouldn`t want to wash my grimiest cleaning rags in this washer let alone clothes and it wouldn`t surprise me at all if some sensitive individuals had to consult a dermatologist after using it.
Laundromats are plentiful and easy to spot in every Commercial Avenue in the USA. Some of them are digusting as well but I`ve never seen anything that bad in a Laundromat.
Didn`t you have a rental car ?

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Post# 933299 , Reply# 7   4/19/2017 at 05:07 (2,418 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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I shudder to think of the ice machine at that hotel.


Post# 933301 , Reply# 8   4/19/2017 at 05:41 (2,418 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I haven't stayed at a hotel

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in ages. I think the last time I stayed was at a Hampton Inn in 2005 in my home town.

That's NASTY but I don't blame the washer itself. It's the way it's used and maintained.

I'm trying to understand why there is a washer/dryer people use personally at a motel/hotel? Maybe motels have always had washers/dryers to wash your clothes and I just didn't realize it? LOL

Post# 933302 , Reply# 9   4/19/2017 at 05:44 (2,418 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)        

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I do leave the door ajar on my own machine, but these LG machines are installed on a floor that slopes forwards and they haven't been leveled.  So the door currently can't be left ajar as it will swing fully open and block the heavily-used walkway.


Before I knew better (thanks to you guys on this site!) I always used to keep the washer door closed but actually never had a problem.  When I lived with my parents, the door was always closed but the machine was as clean as a whistle because I used to wash the towels and bedding at 60 °C (140 °F) and also the occasional 90 °C wash (194 °F).  As soon as I moved out of home, my parents' 10-year-old machine suddenly developed a moldy door boot due to less frequent use combined with a closed door and cooler washes.  My parents have bought into the whole "If it ain't dirty, wash at 30" advertising.  Their current machine has a moldy boot and every time I visit them I always run a 90 °C wash with bleach or washing machine cleaner and although it does kill everything and freshen the machine, it can't remove the embedded mould stains from the boot.  Replacement would be the only option.


Mrboilwash: yes I did have a rental car, but I figured that very little of the gunk would be displaced and even less would be left on the clothes.  That was rather foolish and gross of me, right?!  I can't believe I actually used it.  What was I thinking??

Post# 933303 , Reply# 10   4/19/2017 at 06:11 (2,418 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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Mark, I wouldn`t say foolish and gross. Everyone is entiteled to have their own limits of what is still acceptable and what is not.
I`m just saying for me personally this washer clearly would have crossed several red lines.
On the other hand guests have absolutely no influence on how their towels and bed linens are washed in hotels or how well the ice maker is maintained. Once I`ve witnessed a maid dropping water from a toilet brush all over the carpet in my cheap motel room, then she put it back onto her trolley next to the clean towels. Yuck but somehow I managed to be still alive.

Post# 933305 , Reply# 11   4/19/2017 at 06:34 (2,418 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

"What was I thinking?" You were away form home, possibly tired, had other priorities, needed clean clothes, and maybe really didn't have the chance to sort through all the various pieces of information to reach the same conclusion you might have, had you been home and left in peace to think it all through. I daresay you can be forgiven.

The mold in the washer in parental units* own: If yours are anything like mine they insist that the appearance of mold after 60 & 90C washes stop is complete coincidence. Further, they maintain that you are confused because you believe there IS a connection between 30C only washes and mold persistence. Maybe you should buy them a new boot for Christmas? They might regard it as more evidence of your confusion, but at least you'll all be mold free:-)

*See the attached link for information on The parental Units

CLICK HERE TO GO TO warmsecondrinse's LINK

Post# 933306 , Reply# 12   4/19/2017 at 06:43 (2,418 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)        

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Mark: guest laundry (coin op) is common is basic motels such as Super 8, Travelodge etc.  They are less common in upscale hotels as there is a laundry bag in your room which they will collect and provide a full laundry and dry cleaning service.  I sometimes stay at the Crowne Plaza near London Heathrow airport and they have a free guest laundry room consisting of two stainless steel Miele washers and two matching vented electric dryers.  If you call housekeeping they will bring a cup of detergent to your room free of charge!  In fact, anyone could just walk in off the street and use them free of charge and no one would know.


Malcolm: the ice maker was right next to the washer -- I didn't use it!  They were located outside under a covered walkway.


I didn't bother to mention any of this to the staff as I suspected it would fall on deaf ears, although they saw me taking photos.  I guess it would be more effective to put something in writing to them.

Post# 933312 , Reply# 13   4/19/2017 at 08:14 (2,418 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        
Have only seen

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Another machine this gross before.  It was two years ago at a customers home.  Took a look, went outside and puked!  Not really, but the stench coming from the machine was enough to make anyone tend to think there is an issue.  


Changing the boot????  OH no honey, that outer tub and in those baffles or worse than what you see.  Complete tear down and hours of cleaning would be the only fix for this machine.  The Clorox company doesn't make enough chemical to suffice! 

Post# 933313 , Reply# 14   4/19/2017 at 08:19 (2,418 days old) by Helicaldrive (St. Louis)        
As Gyrafoam says

Sewers for laundry. Unbelievable. Imagine how moldy the plastic outer tub is!

BTW, wouldn't dishwashers be perfect proof that a hot wash and bleach (that's what dishwasher detergent is, basically) prevent mold growth? I've never seen or heard of a moldy dishwasher...

And I'll never understand why people don't realize that clothes get dirty partly due to body oil, and it's not going to dissolve and come out of fabrics in cold water. I don't understand how people don't notice their cold-washed clothes don't feel clean (because they aren't). JMO. Whatever. I'd venture the overwhelming majority of people do wash their clothes in cold water now.

Post# 933314 , Reply# 15   4/19/2017 at 08:22 (2,418 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Are Travelodge's

franchise owned? If so, this owner needs counseling on cleanliness. If not, the manager does.
You've got to be careful where you lodge for the night. Hubby has ben asked in the past to be budget conscious by his company when booking hotels when traveling.
He's had to bail out more than once because of unwashed bedding, and once even bed bugs.

Post# 933315 , Reply# 16   4/19/2017 at 08:23 (2,418 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I haven't really given hotel laundry

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much thought. I can understand the hotel/motel perhaps offering to do your laundry for a charge or something, but I would have never imagined coin op machines for people to do it themselves in a hotel setting. I guess I learned something today.

Post# 933322 , Reply# 17   4/19/2017 at 08:40 (2,418 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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The hotel we usually stay at in New Orleans has old fashioned Maytag orbitals with matching gas dryers.  I used them last year.  Our largest local laundromat has moldy smelling Speed Queens...I'm sure it's because the guy who empties the change boxes and lint filters closes the machines at night (I've watched him do it).

Post# 933324 , Reply# 18   4/19/2017 at 08:45 (2,418 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)        

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mayken4now: I was thinking that it's possible to clean the outer tub, drum and baffles etc., whereas the rubber door boot can be cleaned and the mold killed, but you'll never remove the embedded dead mold stains.  So the boot would have to be replaced.  Is that correct?


Helicaldrive: I agree with what you said about dishwashers.  The door is often closed but absolutely no trace of mould or any funkiness.  However, we rented out our apartment in Brighton, UK to a guy who was there for about a year.  The Electrolux dishwasher was connected to cold water, as is recommended and the heaters in European dishwashers are much more powerful than those in American dishwashers due to US 120V, 15A circuits being limiting.  When I returned after he moved out, I noticed the dishwasher did have mold in it -- I had never seen a dirty dishwasher before and couldn't understand it.  I ran a cycle and then discovered the problem.  The heater wasn't working but the cycle was continuing as normal without any error and without adding any extra time etc.  So this was the problem but the guy obviously either didn't notice or didn't tell us.  We decided to replace it with a Siemens/Bosch unit which is fantastic. 


Warmsecondrinse: the thing with the parental units' unit is that they do claim to understand and run occasional hot washes, but clearly not regularly enough!  And the door is generally closed :-(

Post# 933334 , Reply# 19   4/19/2017 at 09:41 (2,418 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)        

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askolover: all of the TL public machines that I have used in the States in recent years had had Energy Star makeovers.  One machine I used at a hotel filled the tub 3/4 full for the wash, but the rinse was ridiculous: it filled to an extremely low water level and did an agitated rinse at full speed with the clothes all bunched up at the bottom beating the crap out of them.  The Speed Queen commercial TL seemed to have smaller tubs than the domestic version and they all performed the Normal Eco cycle with spray rinse.  I tried paying an extra quarter for the SuperWash option but I couldn't tell the difference.  I also saw suds pouring out of the stand pipe during the spray rinse.


I have also used a commercial SQ FL and the wash was extremely short (about 10 minutes) with two rinses.  All at low water level.  And that was after paying the extra quarter for the SuperWash (perhaps without this option they would have only done one rinse...?).  Results were not great really.  Refreshed clothes enough to wear again I guess.


The last time I used a launderette in the UK was at least 20 years ago.  At that time, the machines performed a prewash, main wash and 3 rinses all at high water level.  I don't know how they work now -- anyone?

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Post# 933347 , Reply# 20   4/19/2017 at 11:14 (2,418 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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I guess I've never stayed in an upscale hotel/motel because all of the ones I've been in had coin-op laundry for guests to use.  A few also had laundry bags for professional service.


Regards to mold in dishwashers ... I have read a few reports of that on another board I follow.

Post# 933433 , Reply# 21   4/19/2017 at 19:42 (2,417 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
Good lord!

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One would think management would maintain and clean those machines once in a while! What do their public toilets look like?? I hope you sent that photo with your comments on your stay.

Post# 933448 , Reply# 22   4/19/2017 at 22:16 (2,417 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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The motels reviews are a mixed bag,, quite a few comments about dirty rooms, roaches, bed bugs but the staff being nice. 


Price doesn't mean a clean hotel room.  A few years back Marketplace on the CBC  here in Canada did an undercover on numerous hotels in Toronto and Vancouver iirc.. some of the most expensive were also some of the most unsanitary... fecal matter all over the place because cleaning staff were using the same rag etc.  Here's a link,, and there's a link somewhere to the actual program if you want to view it.


Post# 933449 , Reply# 23   4/19/2017 at 22:35 (2,417 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I've never

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closed my dishwasher all the way unless I'm actually running a cycle. But it does stay "mostly closed", I just don't latch it closed between washes.

Post# 933477 , Reply# 24   4/20/2017 at 05:17 (2,417 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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This is so gross. Management should have taken care of this months ago. This commercial washer has a magnetic door piece that,when used right,keeps it open enough to keep this problem from happening. Top loaders do the same thing. You just don't see it unless you remove the cabinet to expose the plastic outer tub full of mildew on its walls. I see it all the time on the WP made dd models.

Post# 933500 , Reply# 25   4/20/2017 at 08:13 (2,417 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Mark, That is correct.  You'd never, and I mean never remove the embedded stain in that grey rubber boot.  Sometime back, Kenmore had a "black" boot.  Anyone dare to guess why?

Post# 1155218 , Reply# 26   7/25/2022 at 21:10 (494 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        

This is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen! Sadly, here we are in 2022 and things will only get worse. Some things never change.

Post# 1155228 , Reply# 27   7/26/2022 at 01:50 (494 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Absolutely horrid and hygienic. This is why machines should really be hardwired for only hot or warm temperature optionsÖunless you like your laundry more dirty after it went through the washer along with allergies on top of that..

Surprised the health department hasnít gone after people who donít take care of their machines along with the companies who make these dubious machines that are demanded by consumers who demand dubious quality and designs..

Post# 1155238 , Reply# 28   7/26/2022 at 09:01 (494 days old) by Marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)        

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It's been just over 5 years since I originally started this thread after staying at that place.  The memory of that putrid washing machine still haunts me LOL.  

Post# 1155246 , Reply# 29   7/26/2022 at 10:58 (494 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
cold washing

It is no suprise that stupid consumers do everything in cold water and overstuff their machines without sorting them. The so-called "ultrafresh" GE washers will only grow more mold and mildew on them because most consumers don't give a damn and continue to use cold water and cheap detergent. You need heat and water to get clothes clean.

Post# 1155263 , Reply# 30   7/26/2022 at 14:55 (494 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        

I blame the EPA for this cold water washing nonsense! These new machines use more water and electricity than their "outdated" GE filter-flo and others! They leave clothes dirty.
Who washes a full load of laundry in a pint of water? Whoever came up with the idea of washing clothes in cold water and a pint of water should be shot!

Post# 1155310 , Reply# 31   7/27/2022 at 10:25 (493 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
to maytag85

Most consumers don't give a damn about their laundry. They just stuff the machine, use cold water, cheap detergent, then the shortest cycle. Then they complain. I have no compassion for people who stuff their machines without sorting. The gentle care and high efficiency mantra is getting out of control!

Post# 1155320 , Reply# 32   7/27/2022 at 12:04 (493 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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in a way i tend to agree with you this set is my current daily driver sometime the load is so big usaly i let the auto sense take care of the water level but sometime i have to set it on heavy duty max fill cycle time 2:19 to make sure the clothes are immerse in water for a true efficient wash

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Post# 1158703 , Reply# 33   9/4/2022 at 23:10 (453 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
cold washing

The only time I use cold washing is for darks or delicates which I have none of them. nearly all my clothes are sturdy cottons. my dark ones are the ones that get the cold treatment. Lights get warm and whites get hot with bleach as always. I always use laundry detergent and fabric softener on all of them.

Post# 1158704 , Reply# 34   9/4/2022 at 23:11 (453 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
nothing has changed

Here we are in 2022 and nothing has changed.

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