Thread Number: 70477
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Speed Queen: why the strong nudge to electronic controls? |
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Post# 933961   4/22/2017 at 21:36 (2,531 days old) by EEMac (Olympia, WA)   |   | |
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A Speed Queen top-loader is in my near future! Woohoo!
I'm strongly leaning towards mechanical controls. I like the simple operation. The electronic controls offer a few more cycle options, but nothing I particularly want. However, the Speed Queen site STRONGLY encourages buyers to choose electronic controls. "Choose either mechanical or the unmatched performance and durability of our industry-leading, commercial-grade electronic controls." That's a pretty darn heavy marketing nudge. My question: if both models are selling, why would SQ care? Is there something about the controls (mechanical or electronic) that makes one _that_ much better than the other? |
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Post# 933967 , Reply# 1   4/22/2017 at 22:30 (2,531 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Others would know more than I do, but theoretically well designed, high quality electronic controls should outlast an electromechanical timer because their are no moving parts, and assuming you've got thyristor or triac switching of components(fill valves, motor, ect) there are no electrical contacts to pit from arcing and sparking.
Also, I've heard of problems with TOL electromechanical Speed Queen (on here and from an appliance tech) sold a few years back stalling and not starting the motor in certain spots. To be frank, IMHO Speed Queen crammed far to many cycles into a single timer on their TOL models. The more increments and switching steps you cram into a timer, the fewer degrees each switching step has to be exactly spot on- which is caused by the fact each cam indent/spike shrinks in size and further acerbated by the fact contacts must make/break in correct sequence (start windings must make before run windings) The slightest manufacturing variants make themselves known in a multi cycle timer unlike a single or dual cycle timer. In fact I was originally going to buy the TOL version in 2013, but because of that I bought the BOL to be safe. But considering that Speed Queen is aware and the new timer dial Speed Queens are layed back cycle wise I don't think these models will have timer problems like the TOL 2009-2013 models. As for electronics which have gotten a black eye thanks to cheezey value engineering, I highly doubt you will run into that considering its Speed Queen. On the contrary, I'd wager an electronic speed queen control will outlast even the best mechanical controls on the market today. Personally, I'd go by that you want. Being Speed Queen both are excellent choices IMO. |
Post# 933997 , Reply# 6   4/23/2017 at 06:06 (2,531 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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Seems like the electronics in SQ machines were built to last like the rest of the machine----unlike OTHERS out there in the appliance wilds.And the SQ could be easily repaired-not thrown into the dumpster like those OTHERS! |
Post# 934033 , Reply# 8   4/23/2017 at 11:02 (2,531 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)   |   | |
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Will be interesting to see how that new design of machine holds up. I can't imagine it being very durable TBH, even if it is made by Alliance. OTOH it will still be a far cry better than anything else anyone puts out these days I'm sure. |
Post# 934047 , Reply# 9   4/23/2017 at 13:02 (2,531 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)   |   | |
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You have to wonder if the new regulations will take effect. |
Post# 934057 , Reply# 10   4/23/2017 at 14:00 (2,531 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 934063 , Reply# 11   4/23/2017 at 14:26 (2,531 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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God I hope not. Along with this, there's tons of other goobermint nonsense that needs to be run off into the ditch. Permanently. |
Post# 934078 , Reply# 12   4/23/2017 at 15:56 (2,531 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)   |   | |
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Yes, possibly the only good thing that might come from this administration is not restricting appliances usage of resources....or at least not make it any worse. |
Post# 934087 , Reply# 13   4/23/2017 at 16:20 (2,531 days old) by ryanm (New York)   |   | |
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I forgot to mention that the Speed Queen technical support also told me that the new 2018 models will have 'lid locks' as well. |
Post# 934088 , Reply# 14   4/23/2017 at 16:28 (2,531 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 934120 , Reply# 16   4/23/2017 at 19:09 (2,530 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Could be 1,010 RPM. Stops as such every time when the lid is opened. Coasts down during normal end of spin and the braking activates for a moment toward the end. Machine will be 18 years old in July. No repairs other than a pump replacement in Oct 2011. Sorry for the poor video quality, it was done years ago. |
Post# 934165 , Reply# 17   4/23/2017 at 22:10 (2,530 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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You're going to have this machine for a very long time. Why don't you try both versions - even in a dry run? You may find the electronic control is easier to use. Or, you may find the electro-mechanical system feels better.
One thing is clear - modern electronics and modern mechanical timers are both mature technologies. Both have their weaknesses, but given the horrendous prices for mechanical timers, I'd not be so awfully convinced that the potential failure of an electronic system is sufficient argument to avoid one.
If you go electronic, I would definitely pull the cord before electrical storms and run it on a real surge-protector, not one of those $9.95 units from Walmart. |
Post# 934374 , Reply# 19   4/25/2017 at 00:26 (2,529 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Modern technology just as long as I have breath....! |
Post# 934396 , Reply# 20   4/25/2017 at 03:09 (2,529 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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I will continue to get washers and dishwashers,from the swap shop.RUN past the new appliance depts.!! |