Thread Number: 71326
/ Tag: Vintage Dishwashers
KDI-15 Cycle Issue |
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Post# 943863   6/16/2017 at 17:46 (2,498 days old) by Kenkuhl (Granby, CT)   |   | |
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I purchased a Coppertone KDI-15 from a family that had an old cottage in the Litchfield Hills of Western Connecticut.
The unit has worked nicely for 2 years. Recently the pump stops on the final rinse cycle and does not empty completely. If I manually spin the dial, it will start again at the last rinse and usually empties. Sometimes I need to do this twice. I had an appliance repair lady suggest it might be the timer. Thoughts anybody? Ken |
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Post# 943885 , Reply# 1   6/16/2017 at 20:34 (2,498 days old) by leefree (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Post# 943887 , Reply# 2   6/16/2017 at 20:44 (2,498 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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....but that's the exact same machine my grandparents had in their house till the day they moved when I was a teenager.
It was LOUD! Like the tour at Niagara Falls. It washed 'ok' .... being a one arm wonder. But dang, it lasted forever and only needed two repairs. One was a new motor before I was born, lol. And the other was a new door seal that I helped put in, sometime in the late 90s. Because water was literally pouring out the TOP of the machine. Haha. |
Post# 944195 , Reply# 4   6/19/2017 at 06:03 (2,496 days old) by Kenkuhl (Granby, CT)   |   | |
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Post# 944203 , Reply# 6   6/19/2017 at 07:19 (2,496 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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In addition to Steve's good advice watch the machine go through a cycle completely and each time the machine drains all the water should stop draining from the hose before the drain valve closes and the machine starts to fill for the next wash or rinse
If the machine is not draining fast enough you could have a blockage in the drain line the drain valve or quite likely damaged or broken drain impeller.
These early KitchenAid 15's actually had a hard Bakelite plastic impeller and it was easy for parts of the fins to get broken off and the machine would lose the ability to pump any longer.
The rubber drain impeller was actually the improved replacement design it was used on the16 and 17 machines also the rubber impeller can also become damaged or worn as Steve mentioned they never changed the drain impeller of the rubber design they were all the same.
It is very unlikely the timer is the cause of this problem unless in the final drain the machine is just stopping abruptly while draining in less than one minute.
There are no screws to remove the filter for cleaning, it just lifts out after you remove the wash arm. There are FOUR screws that hold the wash arm support in place but removing this will not revel any conditions that will keep the machine from draining, but it is the first step in taking the pumps apart to check the condition of the drain impeller.
John L. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Combo52's LINK |
Post# 944423 , Reply# 8   6/20/2017 at 22:28 (2,494 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 944445 , Reply# 9   6/21/2017 at 05:56 (2,494 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 944447 , Reply# 10   6/21/2017 at 06:10 (2,494 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)   |   | |
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John and Ed! |
Post# 944466 , Reply# 12   6/21/2017 at 10:16 (2,494 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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That is so strange.
Right from the KD-10-14 series and then the KD 15-20 series... I have never seen screws holding a filter in place. Maybe it was a technician's custom repair job. Hmmmm.... |
Post# 944528 , Reply# 13   6/21/2017 at 19:09 (2,493 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Keith, First of all the KA DW would have to have been newer than 1962 to have a sani-cycle, you probably had a KDS-15 which came out in late 1964, this was the first ever KA DW to have a heater and also the first to have a Sani-Cycle.
On this DW if you just lifted off the wash arm you could have used a long Phillips screwdriver and removed the four screws and lifted the complete wash-arm-support off with the fine mesh filter, sometimes the wash filter would seem to stick to the WAS but it was designed to easily lift off without removing the WAS or any screws.
All KA DWs from the KD-11 through the KD-22s used four screws to hold the WAS in place.
Hi Eddy, if the picture you used of the KD-15 DW is your DW, you have the coarse strainer in up-side-down.
John L. |
Post# 944531 , Reply# 14   6/21/2017 at 19:47 (2,493 days old) by quincyman (Oldsmar, FL)   |   | |
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Your GOOD! |
Post# 944563 , Reply# 15   6/22/2017 at 01:34 (2,493 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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