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Thread Number: 71733
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
question on sanitize cycle on washers |
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| Post# 949109 7/20/2017 at 12:17 (2,463 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
hello to all aw members,
i have a few question first question what is the advantage of having a sanitize cycle on the washer? second question are models with internal heaters good and third question what would be the best whirlpool duet model with the following cycles normal quick wash cold water wash (*if needed) sanitize and extra hot water option *please note that i am doing research and when the time comes for my mom and i to purchuse i went to make the right choice this is the model i find intressting www.whirlpool.ca/fr_ca/la... thank you in advance for members answers CLICK HERE TO GO TO pierreandreply4's LINK | ||
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Post# 949210 , Reply# 1 7/21/2017 at 04:51 (2,462 days old) by Frigilux  (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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I can answer a couple of your questions.
1) The advantage of having a Sanitize cycle is that the washer has an internal water heater. My Maytag (made by Whirlpool) heats the water in the Sanitize and Allergen cycles. I think it also boosts the temp a bit in the PowerWash cycle when choosing the Extra Hot temperature setting. 2) Are models with internal water heaters good? I certainly think so. I don't always use cycles that boost the water temperature, but the option to do so is there. | ||
| Post# 949215 , Reply# 2 7/21/2017 at 05:34 (2,462 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 949313 , Reply# 3 7/21/2017 at 17:58 (2,462 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York) |
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 One of the benefits of having an on board heater, some MFG can do profile washes that gradually heat the water to temp for better stain removal. Two, if any members of the family is sick (flu), this will help slow the spread of the germs if bleach is not used. The boost is a plus but not necessary if the water heater is cranked up to the highest heating setting but with some energy saving machines, they may have dumb down the temps and add cold water if water is too hot. The manual should state if hot water is straight from tap or blended! | ||
| Post# 949360 , Reply# 4 7/21/2017 at 23:17 (2,461 days old) by UncleDave (California) | ||
One benefit is that a washer with a true sanitize cycle can typically sustain 60C which is the temp needed for killing pathogens.
Without the ability to heat to this level one must use bleach to kill the germs which is quite hard on the material vs hot water. Wife is a pet groomer and we have a load a day of nasty towels from pet grooming. | ||
| Post# 949401 , Reply# 5 7/22/2017 at 07:17 (2,461 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 949432 , Reply# 7 7/22/2017 at 10:57 (2,461 days old) by suburbanmd (Maryland, USA) |
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Per a discussion in the Gardenweb laundry forum a while ago, a sanitize cycle on current washers is not a guarantee of high temperature. | ||
| Post# 949454 , Reply# 9 7/22/2017 at 14:53 (2,461 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 949472 , Reply# 10 7/22/2017 at 19:34 (2,461 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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 Pierre, I apologize for not being able to respond until now. My 2011 Whirlpool Duet (and corresponding Maytag Maximas) were the last generation of Duets and Maximas to offer both NSF P172 certified Sanitize and NSF P351 certified Allergen cycles. P172 means water temperature will reach 153-158 degrees F and P351 means 131 degrees F for 3 minutes or so. The next generation offered P351 certification but P172 for Sanitize cycle was no longer provided. Maytag's current MHW8150, MHW8200, and MHW5500 are the only whirlpool produced products offering Allergen P351 certification. The importance of a P351 certified Allergen cycle means that a certain level of hot water temperature is almost assured. I use sanitize high temperatures about once a month or so on my Allergen cycle with steam for stains option for my terry cloth napkins and kitchen cloths that have food stains and such. I'm fortunate my model has several cycles where the heater comes on to maintain or slightly boost water temperatures for both warm or hot that offer both fast or medium speed tumbling. Selecting heavy soil level allows for longer wash times to allow longer heating time. I haven't used liquid chlorine bleach since I bought this washer November 2011. I'm actually very disappointed Whirlpool removed Allergen cycles from their current model line up associated with this last generation. I know why they did it, to meet Energy Star guidelines. But why couldn't they still do it--some of their competitors still managed. Current models offer "Extra Hot" temperature but it's not the same--especially considering all hot and warm water temperatures have been dumbed down again. At least current Maytags still offers the Allergen cycle feature. It will be interesting to see what the new lineup will look like meeting new 2018 Energy Star restrictions. I'm hoping Whirlpool related products will offer models with downloadable cycles capability to offer more than the standard cycle offering--one of their latest dishwashers offers this feature. | ||
| Post# 949510 , Reply# 11 7/22/2017 at 23:15 (2,460 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
and of course | ||
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Post# 949512 , Reply# 12 7/22/2017 at 23:24 (2,460 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Given the variables involved
One should take note of how nurses clean.
First, remove the large-scale dirt. That means hot enough water, good detergent (a washer with a program to run up the temperature to maximize enzymatic action is a gigantic plus here) and enough water to actually do something. Second, kill the germs and eliminate those allergens which survived the first cleaning. That means oxygen or chlorine bleaches, thorough rinsing (again, this means enough water) and, finally: No sticky/waxy fabric softeners in the washer and none of those horrid dryer sheets in the dryer. No scented detergents. And, of course, a clean washer - which is another aspect of the 'sanitize' function. Now that people foolishly expect cold water to clean clothes (it doesn't) and washers use too little water, it's a must to regularly run the machine's own clean/sanitize cycle. As to Whirlpool/Maytag - Bob already covered what matters right above this comment. In terms of quality, Maytag is really nothing but a gussied up Roper/Estate, so the only reason to buy one is because it meets the sanitation standards you need. Otherwise, it's just a spending more money than necessary to have the pretty label. | ||
| Post# 949553 , Reply# 13 7/23/2017 at 03:08 (2,460 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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At what point | ||
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Post# 949557 , Reply# 14 7/23/2017 at 03:41 (2,460 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Mark, it depends upon what it is. Mark, the new TOL dishwasher, that is now above Murando's model, was introduced this past spring. The new TOL front loaders were announced January or March 2016. Within the last few months, a new compact front load pair, with a control panel like their TOL Cabrio was introduced last fall maybe. It's ongoing. With this new control panel for a front loader, I'm expecting an update, just have no idea when that will happen. | ||
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