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Post# 953723   8/20/2017 at 17:15 (2,433 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Yes, this is my brother-in-law's stackable machines & the stuff I washed with that got even my daughter's throw-up out of her clothes...
Who says when you buy NEW laundry equipment that you DON'T get GOOD QUALITY? They seem to both hold a lot of clothes, seemingly are energy efficient, hopefully are reliable, but, yeh, as yaw'll say: they take forever--even the dryer...! -- Dave |
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Post# 953729 , Reply# 1   8/20/2017 at 17:48 (2,433 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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The reason those clothes dryers overseas take forever, is they are mostly condenser dryers. US clothes dryers are faster because, they are vented dryers, and some are gas dryers which can dry a load of clothes fast. My Maytag DG810 can dry a load of clothes fast, and does a great job at drying clothes!
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Post# 953779 , Reply# 2   8/21/2017 at 05:04 (2,433 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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That dryer looks like a conventional vented machine. There are no panels underneath as you would need in order to access the condenser. |
Post# 953782 , Reply# 3   8/21/2017 at 06:27 (2,433 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 953784 , Reply# 4   8/21/2017 at 07:21 (2,433 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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It is basically the same piece of crap WP-MT is selling here, it is built in Italy by Maroni-Asko, like most European dryers it is only around 3000 watts and they have about 1/4 the life expectancy of a US built WP 24" dryer.
Many of them are lucky to last 5 years. We have been rebuilding the older WP-KM 24" dryers and replacing these dryers with them. |
Post# 953790 , Reply# 5   8/21/2017 at 07:51 (2,433 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Here is another washer and dryer set that I got to use:
It is a LaCasa and in my mother-in-law's apartment at a senior living complex that she & my father-in-law are residing at... My wife & daughter wanted the luxury & convenience, & even necessity, of doing their clothes on vay-cay, while, me, I was just 'roughing it'... -- Dave |
Post# 953799 , Reply# 6   8/21/2017 at 08:55 (2,433 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 953804 , Reply# 7   8/21/2017 at 09:29 (2,433 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Louis, Whirlpool is buying this dryer from Merloni-Asko, I know they do not build it, WP has been selling this machine in the US for around 10 years now. Originally they also sold the matching washer, then about 6 years ago they switched to a Chinese 24" washer which is the biggest POS that I have ever seen WP sell.
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Post# 953807 , Reply# 8   8/21/2017 at 09:38 (2,433 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 953812 , Reply# 9   8/21/2017 at 10:08 (2,433 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Louis, I guess I have no idea who's building Them but it is still the Marone dryer and it still made in Italy attached are pictures of a 2013 Maytag that we've already scraped with a bad control and blower motor, and they're still selling them.
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Post# 953846 , Reply# 10   8/21/2017 at 12:27 (2,432 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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At this moment we can only speculate who is making that dryer. Perhaps another company bought a production line up and makes the dryers now for Whirlpool. If there is an Italian member lurking here, perhaps he could shed a light on this.
Now about that second set, I have seen that dryer before, but for the life of me, I don't remember where. |
Post# 953857 , Reply# 11   8/21/2017 at 13:28 (2,432 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 953903 , Reply# 12   8/21/2017 at 19:09 (2,432 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Chet, if you have a crush on these dryers come and get this one, we recycle a few of these every month.
I have seen ZERO improvements in these dryers since WP has been selling them, major problem areas are .
Door switches burning up, part $56
On- Off switch burned up part over $50
Main control failure [ part only ] cost $ 780
Thermal fuse on heater part $ 156
Blower motor $ 218
Main drum drive motor $ 218
And if they actually manage to last more than 5 years the front and rear drum bearings are usually shot.
And under the best of cases they are still noisy and slow dryers, I have seen nothing to convince me that reverse tumbling does anything except waste time and make the dryer slower overall.
John L.
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Post# 953922 , Reply# 13   8/21/2017 at 21:12 (2,432 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Those European dryers wear out faster, because there are more mechanical parts to go wrong, and they are cheaply made. I don't know why they use revering dryer drums in europe, it slows the drying process. The reason why they use revering drums is: 1.the dryer drum does not spin as fast, and there is a higher change of clothes tangling and balling up. 2. They use 50 hertz as their power frequency, which slows the motor down (I could be wrong about this) and does not allow for the motor to spin fast. US dryers have a drum that spins faster, which requires no reversing action.
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Post# 953923 , Reply# 14   8/21/2017 at 21:13 (2,432 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Those European dryers wear out faster, because there are more mechanical parts to go wrong, and they are cheaply made. I don't know why they use revering dryer drums in europe, it slows the drying process. The reason why they use revering drums is: 1.the dryer drum does not spin as fast, and there is a higher change of clothes tangling and balling up. 2. They use 50 hertz as their power frequency, which slows the motor down (I could be wrong about this) and does not allow for the motor to spin fast. US dryers have a drum that spins faster, which requires no reversing action.
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Post# 953924 , Reply# 15   8/21/2017 at 21:21 (2,432 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 953996 , Reply# 17   8/22/2017 at 09:09 (2,432 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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"They use 50 hertz as their power frequency, which slows the motor down (I could be wrong about this) and does not allow for the motor to spin fast."
That's just too funny! We don't use the same motors anyway and if we would just a different pulley would solve the problem. No, the reason many dryers here in Europe are reversing is because European dryers have smaller drums and it helps against laundry balling up. That's all. |
Post# 954026 , Reply# 18   8/22/2017 at 11:41 (2,431 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 954037 , Reply# 19   8/22/2017 at 12:44 (2,431 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 954040 , Reply# 20   8/22/2017 at 13:07 (2,431 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Anywhere from just below 4 to just above 4 cubic feet. In liters usually anywhere from 105l to 121l, though recently, most dryers are at the upper end of that scale. |
Post# 954042 , Reply# 21   8/22/2017 at 13:18 (2,431 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 954043 , Reply# 22   8/22/2017 at 13:19 (2,431 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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'Course what I liked/loved about it was the fine fragrance of the detergent in the air!
-- Dave
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