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Thread Number: 72563
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Countertop dishwashers |
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Post# 958702 , Reply# 1 9/23/2017 at 11:45 (2,399 days old) by Frigilux  (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Check out this list of the Top 8 Countertop Dishwashers. You may find one that fills the bill for your particular circumstance.
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| Post# 958705 , Reply# 2 9/23/2017 at 11:56 (2,399 days old) by MayfairPink (Palo Alto, CA) | ||
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I bought a Danby about 10yrs ago, used for 3 now in storage bec. I have a full size one. It works very well, only draw back is plates larger than 10" won't fit, round bowls are also a challenge. Good for 2 people, sometimes I have to plan what to use to fit them in, but you can always do 2 loads. Hue | ||
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Post# 958707 , Reply# 3 9/23/2017 at 12:07 (2,399 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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I would say shop around...(ebay, amazon, etc)....and even check out CL and thrift stores....as so many have been seen....you might strike up a better deal for your budget...
I got to use one once, mounted under the counter of a wet bar.....it had a dark window, I tossed in a glow stick to see some of the action.....it was better than I expected....worked well on the glassware..... if I recall it had a short wash and long wash program....and an option for heated dry....and that's about all you need... keep us posted on what you select.... | ||
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Post# 958709 , Reply# 4 9/23/2017 at 12:12 (2,399 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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not sure of your budget.....but for around 200.00+/- you have a few options from Walmart....
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Post# 958712 , Reply# 5 9/23/2017 at 13:00 (2,399 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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The new Magic Chef (Home Depot) is AWESOME! It cleans much better than many high end full size dishwashers. | ||
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Post# 958713 , Reply# 6 9/23/2017 at 13:02 (2,399 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 958716 , Reply# 7 9/23/2017 at 13:23 (2,399 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
 The dishwashers on that top 8 list look rather alike apart from a few details. I wonder if they aren't all made by one company.
I've thought that, too.
Another point: I suspect it takes a lot of work to design and then manufacture a dishwasher. A lot of these countertop dishwasher maker names seem to names I've never heard of before. It seems most likely to me that it's a name that gets fixed to a product that is acquired from another company that supplies numerous other companies.
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Post# 958731 , Reply# 8 9/23/2017 at 14:22 (2,399 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 958736 , Reply# 9 9/23/2017 at 14:52 (2,399 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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They are made in china... and the manufacturer is (miraculously) excellent. | ||
| Post# 958746 , Reply# 10 9/23/2017 at 15:36 (2,399 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND) | ||
I had an edgestar that I purchased from compactappliance.com and I loved it.
At the time, I wished it had a built-in heater, now the new models do. I wouldn't mind having another one around on a shelf just below a counter top. The only thing to keep in mind when loading the little guy is that they generally don't have a top spray. I feel they would still out perform any 18" dishwasher on the market. | ||
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Post# 958771 , Reply# 11 9/23/2017 at 17:48 (2,399 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Years ago Equator offered a counter top dishwasher that was made in Europe (IIRC), and even one or two other brands from that side of pond managed to show up on these shores (AEG?). But today regardless of brand name (Danby, Magic Chef, SPF, etc..) all counter top dishwashers come from Asia. Likely from same plant.
Just as with 18" dishwashers back in the day (made by Frigidaire of old DM design), there is only so much demand and thus not huge reason for many manufactures to jump into the counter top dishwasher market. As dishwashers become more and more standard equipment even in small apartments (nearly all new construction and or apartment that has seen major renovation have them), the need for portables overall has declined. The 18" dishwasher category has opened up over the past few years with others joining the market besides Frigidaire. If you can find the room maybe one of them would work. blog.yaleappliance.com/bid/78067... www.compactappliance.com/... Many years ago Ikea sold a kit to make 18" built in dishwashers portable. Have been trying to find one without much luck. Am sure somewhere out there on the internet there are instructions on building one's own conversion "box", but don't have the time to search. | ||
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Post# 958780 , Reply# 12 9/23/2017 at 18:53 (2,399 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Just found another one at the thrift store today An 'Edgestar' DWP45ES - fully electronic. Perfect condition for $20.00 And it had the hose, jiffy-adapter and even the nozzle for the adaptor! It's washing a load now. The appearance, rack, basket, hose, adaptor, etc. are all identical to several other brands. I'm sure its made of Chineseum and, yes, all of these I've seen are quite good quality and work astonishingly well. Very well made, too - which makes me wonder if they're not aimed at the Japanese market or someplace where quality matters?
Anyway, it's not the level of quality of our ancient 220V AEG Tischgerät - which I just found out, after talking about it yesterday - was lost to the last flood. Grrrr. But, goodness - not even that loud and quite good washers and rinsers. Highly recommendable as second dishwashers instead of those horrid 18" models which always seem to be equipped with the first generation Frigidaire ball - the one which never works. | ||
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Post# 958797 , Reply# 14 9/23/2017 at 20:34 (2,399 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Jim, here's what I have learned
They all have a weak drain hose nut. It will always snap. No big deal, just slip a rubber hose over the long, threaded tube and fasten it, same to the drain hose which broke.
The versions with rinse aid dispenser dry better. They wash with great force, so follow their instructions about not putting drinking glasses in the wrong place. Since they can use a regular 3/4" water connection, you can hook them up permanently, but I'd always turn the valve off after use. I can unhesitatingly recommend them. | ||
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Post# 958802 , Reply# 15 9/23/2017 at 21:20 (2,399 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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In my apartment in Brazil i had only countertop models... a Brastemp and an electrolux that is the same as the americans magic chef, SPT, Danby etc. The Electrolux was expectacular, no matter what you toss in it... Once i made polenta (Only real italians know how to do it perfectly and how nasty the pan is after that) and tossed the pan without soaking, only to test the dishwasher... It came out clean as new. Not even commercial dishwashers clean a pan with polenta. | ||
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Post# 958841 , Reply# 17 9/24/2017 at 03:05 (2,399 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Paulo, it "sounds" delicious! Can it be cut with a dental floss? As my mom always said, a real polenta is cut with a floss, never with a spoon. | ||
| Post# 958848 , Reply# 19 9/24/2017 at 04:21 (2,399 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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Bosch model This is the version Bosch makes in Europe... rather expensive though. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Rolls_rapide's LINK | ||
| Post# 958849 , Reply# 20 9/24/2017 at 05:03 (2,399 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK) | ||
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Post# 958850 , Reply# 21 9/24/2017 at 05:05 (2,399 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Sorry to tell you but Bosch doesn't make it... It's also made in china, OEM, same factory... In off, we will have a similar dishwasher but 2 racks... | ||
| Post# 958855 , Reply# 22 9/24/2017 at 05:36 (2,399 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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"Bosch doesn't make it..." Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. But I would rather have the Bosch than the other machines (Danby, et al), based on the experience of obtaining spare parts. Bosch have been rather good with availability of components, in the past. | ||
| Post# 958858 , Reply# 23 9/24/2017 at 06:46 (2,399 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK) | ||
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Polenta cake 250g Polenta or cornmeal polenta 225g White flour 15g Baking powder Pinch of salt
250g Sugar 125g Butter soft - Unsalted Vanilla, lemon, orange or other flavourings 3 Eggs 2 Tablespoon corn oil or vegetable oil
Add a little of the dry ingredients at a time.
1 Cup milk or milk and cream
Sprinkle a little sugar on top before going in the oven
170C/338F/Gas Mark 3 - 30 min | ||
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Post# 958867 , Reply# 24 9/24/2017 at 08:17 (2,398 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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I've made pressure cooker polenta for years and | ||
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Post# 958875 , Reply# 25 9/24/2017 at 09:38 (2,398 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 958895 , Reply# 26 9/24/2017 at 12:50 (2,398 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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I can't speak about risotto or polenta...but I can say that I've gotten amazingly sloppy in the kitchen compared to the standards of my 20 year old self. When I was first cooking, I was all fired up to do things The Right Way. Now, I suppose I respect and value tradition...but for my cooking of today I value cheats. They may be something my 20 year old purist self would shudder at, but fast preparation makes the difference today between actually cooking something, and just nuking a frozen dinner... | ||
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Post# 958896 , Reply# 27 9/24/2017 at 12:51 (2,398 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Panthera and Appnut Ma che quosa, dio mio Please remind me to NEVER let you come close to my Kitchen. When you die, San Genaro will have a serious conversation with both of you because of this pressure cooker sacrilege. Please don't tell me you also cut pasta... Humpf! ROFL It just reminded me something.... I can't stop laughing horrified... Martin, Kevin, where are you? | ||
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Post# 958897 , Reply# 28 9/24/2017 at 12:56 (2,398 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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@Rolls Rapide The quality will be exactly the same, why pay a fortune for a dishwasher that 1) will last for a long time, those little beasts are very durable) 2) When they break, it doesn't matter the brand, you can't fix it. Get the cheapest you can find, it's the best you can do for your money... No matter the brand, they are all made in the same factory. When it breaks, just get rid of it. Don't waste your time (and money) trying to fix it because it's not worth. | ||
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Post# 958898 , Reply# 29 9/24/2017 at 12:57 (2,398 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Unless it's something silly like a leaking hose, or a fill valve. that you can fix. The price they'll charge you to fix something more complex is usually 2x the price of the dishwasher. | ||
| Post# 958902 , Reply# 30 9/24/2017 at 13:41 (2,398 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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I still think the Bosch appliances are a tad more serviceable/repairable than the majority of others. Though whether the cost of repair for the control circuitry is worth it, is a valid point. Sensible parts can be replaced: dispensers, filters, etc. | ||
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Post# 958913 , Reply# 31 9/24/2017 at 15:37 (2,398 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Post# 958914 , Reply# 32 9/24/2017 at 15:40 (2,398 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 958963 , Reply# 34 9/25/2017 at 02:47 (2,398 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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And again I repeat... those little dishwashers are excellent. No matter what brand, they come from the same factory in china (an excellent quality factory by the way) | ||
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Post# 958970 , Reply# 35 9/25/2017 at 04:53 (2,398 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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"Absolutely the same"
Are you sure about that? The design of the inside of the door looks different to me. Also the racks are different. Perhaps they are made in the same factory but according different specifications? Or just somewhere else? Here are some pictures of the TOL Bosch compact.
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Post# 958971 , Reply# 36 9/25/2017 at 05:02 (2,398 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 958973 , Reply# 37 9/25/2017 at 05:05 (2,398 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Also the back of the Edgestar and the Bosch are different. The Bosch has the water connection at the other side.
A picture of the Edgestar and a video of the Bosch.
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| Post# 958975 , Reply# 38 9/25/2017 at 05:15 (2,398 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 958976 , Reply# 39 9/25/2017 at 05:15 (2,398 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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Louis is correct I thought the same, that the Bosch and the Edgestar are not similar. The clues are in the basket design, and the door catch. However, one that is identical to the Edgestar is the Zanussi, shown below... | ||
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Post# 958977 , Reply# 40 9/25/2017 at 05:18 (2,398 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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The clue was in the video. On the box it says Made in Spain.
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Post# 958978 , Reply# 41 9/25/2017 at 05:22 (2,398 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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But then again the back panel of the Zanussi is different again. The connection for the inlethose is in the middle.
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Post# 958979 , Reply# 42 9/25/2017 at 05:25 (2,398 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 958982 , Reply# 43 9/25/2017 at 05:30 (2,398 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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The Bsches sure as hell are different. None of the chinese ones offer a sensor cycle (which th more TOL ones do), and AFAIK the BSH untsdo use thir EcoSilence drive system. I'm also pretty certain that Electrolux had their own platform as AEG in Germany offered verry different machines to the cheapo ones with far more cycle flexibility and different cycle setups. | ||
| Post# 958983 , Reply# 44 9/25/2017 at 05:34 (2,398 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK) | ||
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foraloysius- I currently don’t have a space for a full sized dishwasher, but we move quite often so having a full size dishwasher as well as my TL washing machine will be quite a hassle when we move lol most rentals usually come with a dishwasher. Currently I wash up by hand, I have to wear gloves now though.. the washing up liquid causes some sort of eczema :/
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Post# 958986 , Reply# 45 9/25/2017 at 05:48 (2,398 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 958991 , Reply# 48 9/25/2017 at 06:15 (2,398 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK) | ||
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Post# 958996 , Reply# 49 9/25/2017 at 06:29 (2,398 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 959000 , Reply# 50 9/25/2017 at 06:37 (2,398 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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If only
But would never arrive in one piece, am more than certain.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bosch-Serie-4-SK... | ||
| Post# 959009 , Reply# 51 9/25/2017 at 08:35 (2,397 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
My sister lives in a small apartment where there is no room for a standard sized dishwasher, but she absolutely hates washing dishes.
So five years ago I bought her one of the little countertop machines. It is the perfect size for one person, it washes like it's bigger brothers, and she has had absolutely no problems. I bought it from overstock.com. I don't remember exactly the price, but I know I paid under $300, and got free shipping. One of the best gifts I think she has ever received. She mentions it every time I see her how much she love this little dishwasher. It takes up about the same amount of counter space as a microwave oven. In fact in her first apartment she had it in, she had it on a rolling microwave cart. In this newer, larger apartment she has it on the counter next to the sink. One caution, this was even in the owner's manual, only use powder or gel detergent. The pods or packs are too concentrated, and too large of a dose for the smaller load. Second, always use a rinse aid, there is no heated drying. | ||
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Post# 959019 , Reply# 52 9/25/2017 at 09:30 (2,397 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Without a doubt, | ||
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Post# 959037 , Reply# 53 9/25/2017 at 12:56 (2,397 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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there seems to be more to them than meets the eye.....after viewing several pics, these little gems appear to hold place setting from 6 to 8, that's more than one would expect from something so small...
just slightly smaller than a F&P dishdrawer, and those held a lot..... but I would agree that most are probably all made by one or two manufacturers.... after viewing several washers by Haier, Avanti, MagicChef, Midea, RCA etc...some have different controls, different ports for water in or out, different filters or impellers...the main unit inside seem to be identical..... | ||
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Post# 959046 , Reply# 54 9/25/2017 at 14:25 (2,397 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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an oddly enough their popping up on CL all over.....
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Post# 959047 , Reply# 55 9/25/2017 at 14:28 (2,397 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 959048 , Reply# 56 9/25/2017 at 14:32 (2,397 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 959211 , Reply# 59 9/26/2017 at 07:53 (2,396 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Jim, You make some good points. Especially #1 and #3. I have often thought that two of these, carefully built-in next to each other or at least permanently installed at a comfortable height, would make an excellent, if small, dishwashing arrangement for someone who couldn't/shouldn't bend over as is required by a standard size dishwasher. Not, of course, that there's any rule against elevating one of those to a more reasonable height. You see that done in Europe all the time, just as with front loading washing machines, here in the US.
As to polenta, I'm so used to the screaming queens in our social circle being offended by my cooking 'shortcuts' and kitchen cleaning ways, I've become immune to it. Italian cuisine (the best on the planet) is all about making simple things taste wonderful. Italians haven't lost sight of that. All too frequently, others have. Heck, look at the best tasting French food one can buy from street vendors. Then compare it to the hysterical Martha Stewart versions.
Now, to be sure, I have a friend in Munich who learned in a Michelin One Star whose rissoti are among the best on the planet and he doesn't cut corners. Of course, his pasta tastes so damn good because he doesn't dump out the water, he just keeps lifting the cooked pasta out and putting new in. No olive oil in the water, just lots of salt.
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Post# 959222 , Reply# 60 9/26/2017 at 09:08 (2,396 days old) by Chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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CT Dishwasher Thread
Here is a thread of mine from a while back on using a countertop dishwasher. I use mine as a back up when needed and it does a great job. It takes a while like most modern machines but it's very quiet and does a great job.
I agree with the comment about only using powder as the tabs are meant for full size machines that use more water. I've never noticed tabs for sale for the countertop machines but that doesn't meant they don't exist.
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Post# 959224 , Reply# 61 9/26/2017 at 09:17 (2,396 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Tabs and counter-top dishwashers Because of the scrubbing action and (for the US) high water temperatures, I use a countertop dishwasher to clean really horrid stuff when we're cooking large amounts of food. This gets even the worst burnt-on stuff off (or, at least, down to where it can be done easily by hand): 1) I run the 'rinse and hold' or 'pre-wash' or whatever silly name they've given those two short rinses on the current model. 2) Add a tab and two tablespoons of TSP (gasp - the horrors! No doubt the dishes will come out with chelated this that or the other in their fibres!). None of our models have the automatic detergent dispenser, just the rinse-aid, hence the pre-rinse - warms dishes and unit, removes a lot of stuff (I clean the filter at that time, too). 3) Run the longest heated programme. On the manual models, I may repeat it. On the electronic, I just restart if necessary.
Damn, stuff comes out clean as a whistle which would otherwise never come clean. We all know the dangers of running these new detergents with nothing to 'work' on - and I agree. But for absolutely gobs of fat and tons of burnt-on food for the detergents to attack, I don't see the harm. | ||
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Post# 959525 , Reply# 62 9/28/2017 at 02:15 (2,395 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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back in Brazil the tablets are usually round (The best one is Jimo). I used to break them in half. Jimo is so strong that half tablet would clean a full load (regular size dishwasher) | ||
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Post# 960300 , Reply# 63 10/2/2017 at 21:08 (2,390 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 960326 , Reply# 64 10/3/2017 at 00:02 (2,390 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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| Post# 960357 , Reply# 65 10/3/2017 at 04:31 (2,390 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK) | ||
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Post# 960400 , Reply# 66 10/3/2017 at 10:33 (2,389 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 960405 , Reply# 67 10/3/2017 at 11:12 (2,389 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Post# 960410 , Reply# 68 10/3/2017 at 12:07 (2,389 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 960438 , Reply# 69 10/3/2017 at 15:10 (2,389 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 960447 , Reply# 70 10/3/2017 at 15:47 (2,389 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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Japanese dishwashers I've always thought that Japanese dishwashers were quite unique machines. Far too small for Western styles of cutlery and crockery though. | ||
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