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Thread Number: 72709
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Tariffs on Washing Machines |
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| Post# 960879 10/6/2017 at 01:38 (2,388 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK) | ||
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Excerpt: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. International Trade Commission found on Thursday that surging imports of large residential washing machines harmed domestic producers, a major step toward the imposition of broad duties or quotas on foreign-made Samsung- and LG-brand machines. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Stricklybojack's LINK | ||
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| Post# 960918 , Reply# 1 10/6/2017 at 11:56 (2,387 days old) by iej (.... ) | ||
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What about on domestic made foreign brands and foreign made domestic brands? | ||
| Post# 961046 , Reply# 2 10/7/2017 at 02:26 (2,387 days old) by qualin (Canada) | ||
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Good news for Alliance Laundry Systems and Whirlpool. Not so good for companies like LG, Samsung and maybe GE. This could be a good thing for the industry. Or maybe a bad thing? Thoughts? Opinions? | ||
| Post# 961076 , Reply# 3 10/7/2017 at 07:48 (2,386 days old) by iej (.... ) | ||
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I'm just wondering if the EU has higher tariffs on some of these as while Samsung and LG are present here, they're far from being super-dominant. There's definitely much more of a mixture of brands than there is in the US. | ||
Post# 961298 , Reply# 5 10/8/2017 at 07:18 (2,385 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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We have a good number of washer choices here Whirlpool [ Amana, roper, estate, Maytag and some Kenmore's ] GE, Frigidaire, LG, Samsung, Bosch With Miele at about last.
I do think that LG and Samsung have not played fairly in the US market. They have given huge incentives to sales people to push their appliances to US consumers who then find out that they have purchased appliances that are virtually unrepairable because SS & LG have not set up parts and service organizations to deal with the large volume of problems their overly complex cheaply built appliances.
John L. | ||
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Post# 961304 , Reply# 6 10/8/2017 at 07:51 (2,385 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"We really had no need for South Asian made machines.
Problem is as with so much else manufacturing related the ship has sailed (for various reasons) from American shores to Mexico, Canada, and Asian countries.
Microwave ovens are an interesting case in point. Yes, Amana got the ball rolling, but when Asian manufacturers found out how to make quality and affordable microwave ovens, production slowly shifted from the United States. On the one hand prices for "durable/white goods" have decreased over the years to the point you can find microwave ovens in Rite Aid stores, and washing machines going for very little money. OTOH it has decimated this country's manufacturing base | ||
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Post# 962550 , Reply# 7 10/14/2017 at 16:35 (2,379 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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It is rather ironic
That main reason Whirlpool was allowed to get their mitts on Maytag was the then GWBII administration determined competition from likes of Samsung and LG would be enough competition to balance the market.
Now WP is crying "foul", and needs or wants protection. All this noise likely has much to do with Samsung's status as leader of the USA appliance market. www.twice.com/news/appliances/sam... That being said WP does dominate the laundry sector with a 43% market share. www.statista.com/topics/2... To be clear WP is not really hurting, well not at least financially; their pride is another matter. dailycaller.com/2017/09/29/a-whir... | ||
| Post# 962563 , Reply# 8 10/14/2017 at 17:23 (2,379 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
The article makes a very good point about the TV sector, for example long established brands like RCA and Zenith were destroyed within the time span of 10-15 years from the introduction of foreign competitors. Doug Harland(DRH4683) uploaded a early '90s documentary that showed what killed the American TV industry. An interesting thing to watch. It seems as though history is repeating is self to an extent. RCA is Whirlpool today and LG/Samsung are Sony/Matsushita(Panasonic).
Here is a link to the documentary. CLICK HERE TO GO TO speedqueen's LINK | ||
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Post# 962572 , Reply# 10 10/14/2017 at 18:14 (2,379 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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There is more to it than just that Frontline piece
As to why and how American electronics manufacturers closed, and or sold to Asians.
www.nytimes.com/1995/07/18/us/las... Much of it had to do with same things that happened and or are happening with durable white goods, automobiles and countless other things once made in USA; American consumers put lower prices over "Buy American" and that was the beginning of end. Can well remember when VCRs were an expensive item, as were televisions and later color sets. But by the 1990's or so prices dropped, this and or you could get a VCR or television from places like Walmart. | ||
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Post# 962574 , Reply# 11 10/14/2017 at 18:27 (2,379 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Does made outside the US really mean cheaper? I mean, Maytags are at least still assembled in the US, and they are about equally priced for equal or even better features compared to LG/Samsung, or aren't they? I mean, WP offers automatic dosing. The only thing they don't have (yet) is a system like TurboWash/SuperSpeed. | ||
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Post# 962577 , Reply# 13 10/14/2017 at 18:38 (2,379 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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It is a very complicated issue
High labor and other costs have caused all sorts of manufactures in USA for decades to flee these shores for Mexico, Asia, etc... Then you have to also have to factor in the lose to nil laws and or regulations on everything from environment to working conditions that make it cheaper to produce things in whole or part off shore.
Americans long ago began looking at things more about price than quality. That and or status. There are Americans who would rather die than drive an "American" car and only will consider BMW, Mercedes-Benz, or any other European. How and where things are assembled also is complicated because of laws/regulations that control what can be labeled "made in America". If you assemble an entire washing machine in say China, then it will be labeled as such. But IIRC long as the thing has a certain percentage assembled in USA (even if parts come from elsewhere), it can be called "Made in USA". | ||
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Post# 962580 , Reply# 14 10/14/2017 at 18:46 (2,379 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 962662 , Reply# 17 10/15/2017 at 08:30 (2,378 days old) by agiflow2 () | ||
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I have an electric percolator I purchased from BB&B a few years ago. I don't know where you can get the stove top ones, but the percolator I have starts brewing nearly immediately when you plug it in. It is a Hamilton Beach unit and works very well. | ||
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Post# 962692 , Reply# 18 10/15/2017 at 12:17 (2,378 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Electric percolator | ||
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Post# 963027 , Reply# 19 10/17/2017 at 16:13 (2,376 days old) by Imperial70 (MA USA) |
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I'm considering Whirlpool to complete my kitchen remodel, but why is it so hard to find a dual zone dishwasher. GE has a few models like that. So I may have to go hybrid (whirlpool Fridge and stove, GE dishwasher) even though I like how the Maytag and Kitchenaids perform. | ||
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Post# 963034 , Reply# 20 10/17/2017 at 17:11 (2,376 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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What do you mean by dual zone dishwasher? There's a model or two of WP that have top rack only and numerous KitchenAids with top rack only. My KitchenAid- produced Kenmore Elite has top rack and bottom rack only options. Only a couple of Kenmore Elite models offer this, none thus far offer bottom only option in KitchenAid or WP lines. There's a new Kenmore Elite dishwasher that's produced by LG. The rest are KitchenAid products. | ||
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