Thread Number: 73109
/ Tag: Detergents and Additives
Tesco 'Eco Active' Detergents |
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Post# 965811 , Reply# 1   11/3/2017 at 14:38 (2,363 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 965815 , Reply# 2   11/3/2017 at 14:52 (2,363 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)   |   | |
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Indeed so. Lol They had a liquid detergent plonked right beside the conditioner, but I wasn't paying much attention to that at the time. Cost of conditioner was £1.50 |
Post# 965818 , Reply# 3   11/3/2017 at 15:26 (2,363 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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a fabric conditioner? |
Post# 965840 , Reply# 5   11/3/2017 at 18:10 (2,362 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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Do our British friends use white vinegar as a fabric softener and deodorizer as many Americans do? Our fabric softeners over here seem incredibly slimy to me, which is why I've avoided them for decades. |
Post# 965929 , Reply# 6   11/4/2017 at 07:03 (2,362 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 966437 , Reply# 9   11/6/2017 at 15:54 (2,359 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 966438 , Reply# 10   11/6/2017 at 15:55 (2,359 days old) by MrAlex (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 966559 , Reply# 12   11/7/2017 at 09:48 (2,359 days old) by liamy1 (-)   |   | |
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*as long as they're used in their proper dose that should read |
Post# 966618 , Reply# 13   11/7/2017 at 14:46 (2,359 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)   |   | |
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Interestingly, I have a bottle of Downy that I purchased in the US and on the bottle it now describes itself only as "fabric conditioner' with no mention of softener. Also, on the reverse they say that it has 6 benefits: long lasting freshness, reduction of wrinkles, less fuzz and pills, superior softness, keeps colours bright and helps prevent static. On the P&G website they have videos talking about how use of fabric conditioner protects clothes and extends their life. No longer as they just a simple softener! |
Post# 966629 , Reply# 14   11/7/2017 at 16:03 (2,358 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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Great--you can use my share! Thinking about all of you over there in Barcelona, some tough times going on... |
Post# 966657 , Reply# 15   11/7/2017 at 17:14 (2,358 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Yes, there is a difference. It is subtle but never the less exists.
Original fabric softeners were merely oil in water emulsions invented for and use by commercial laundries to deal with the harsh feeling that came from laundering with the newly invented built detergents. Back when soap was queen of wash day laundry was left softer due to the fats/oils that are naturally present in that product, and are never fully rinsed away. The small amount of lubricant left things "soft". Indeed well into the 1970's soap laundry products were marketed as having "built in fabric softeners". Later both for domestic and commercial use fabric softeners pretty much were tallow based emulsions. Again the idea is to deal with the harsh feeling caused by the middle to high alkaline pH of detergents. Also as the 1960's onwards where man made fibers such as polyester became more a part of laundry, *and* machine/tumble drying became more the norm these products also reduced static cling. All this being said there are other ways to "condition" or soften wash besides tallow and fats. Quats, clay, silicone (a type of oil) and other chemicals have properties that will get between textile fibers, smooth, soften, and give them "glide" which makes ironing easier. That and if done well things come out of dryer needing little to no ironing. The bit about fabric softeners making things "eaiser to iron" comes from the oils/fats once of soap, but now from rinse or dryer products. Dryer sheets for instance are mainly coated with stearic acid, a type of soap which you also find in many laundry detergents and fabric softeners/conditioners. As noted in a thread several weeks ago fabric softener use has fallen off, especially among the younger generation. They either don't know what the stuff does, and or otherwise can't be bothered. Truth to tell the push towards liquid detergents means much laundry comes out of dryer or whatever pretty much soft enough. Hardly the scratchy and coarse affair that resulted from detergent powders of old. Awhile back P&G started the trend with Downy "Advanced". This was a short lived product that was one of the first fabric "conditioners" on the domestic market. IIRC some of that technology was incorporated into Tide "Total Care" detergent which supposedly left things soft and with less wrinkles. Fabric softeners have gotten a bad name. Mostly because products of old did cause things to become less absorbent over time. This was because just as with using soap for wash day, all that fat/oils/tallow built up. Today's fabric "conditioners" are made from as noted above quats and silicones. They build up less or maybe even not at all compared to the stuff of old. So to get around the negative connotations the "softener" bit has been dropped. Finally perhaps the biggest driver today in fabric softeners/conditioners is scent. Laundry product makers have taken a page from perfume and body products in that many customers want scent "layering" so that the smell of detergent is reinforced in the rinse (or dryer) and will remain long after things are dry and put away. One way to do this is to use a rinse or dryer product that lays down scent. Much like using a powder, lotion, cologne or whatever after a bath that has the same scent as one's perfume. You notice at least here in USA P&G has slapped the "Gain" fragrance on dryer sheets and God only knows what else. Ditto for all that "Touch of Donwy".... |