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Post# 965837 , Reply# 1   11/3/2017 at 17:32 (2,357 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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While I don't have one, I know people who do and they seem to be happy with them. Though one friend after living with it a while, wonders if it's really much more than a novelty.
It's 2 dishwashers in one box, so 2 connections each for water supply, drains and power.
I suppose it's nice to have the freedom of being able to run two loads independently, but as you live alone, not so much. Being two drawers, there are limits on the size of things you can put in to wash. Also not easy to do dishes, silver, glasses and pots / pans in the same load, unless there are only a couple of each.
As you live alone, what about a single dish-drawer, as the double drawers are still pricey?
Being it's just for one, a regular size DW of course works too, just run it less frequently.
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Post# 965842 , Reply# 3   11/3/2017 at 18:13 (2,357 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Hobart-made KAs are an entirely different platform. Double-drawer units: - One electric cord. - One water inlet connection (dual valve inside the machine). - Two drain hoses connect to one standard dishwasher plumbing drain port via an included Y-adapter. The tall-tub models have a deeper drawer. There are 36" wide single-drawer models now (two spray arms, double-row of plate tines), which of course requires appropriate cabinetry modification/space. Each drawer generally is considered to hold ~60% of a standard dishwasher, variable per the specific items involved. One learns loading tricks, as happens with any dishwasher. Large items such as cookie sheets, platters, trays, some cookware may not fit or may fit only one piece. |
Post# 965846 , Reply# 4   11/3/2017 at 18:26 (2,357 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 965852 , Reply# 5   11/3/2017 at 19:23 (2,357 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 965856 , Reply# 6   11/3/2017 at 20:06 (2,357 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Also, there is no food grinder. The stainless steel plate is self-flushing via a jet on bottom of the arm (sweeps debris toward the drain filter). The drain protector/filter should be checked occasionally depending on the user's scraping habits. The spray arm and plate (and the pump rotor) can be removed to check for residual debris that may collect beneath it (I do that 2, maybe 3 times per year, rarely is much there). |
Post# 965893 , Reply# 10   11/3/2017 at 23:54 (2,357 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 965894 , Reply# 11   11/3/2017 at 23:58 (2,357 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 965906 , Reply# 12   11/4/2017 at 01:11 (2,357 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Johnrk,
There are 4 Miele dealers in your area that sell dishwashers. I have absolutely fallen in love with my Miele. I sell a lot of the Dimension dishwasher. I have had really no complaints. The first thing everyone seems to say is that things seem cleaner with the Miele. goo.gl/photos/McdPVWrhPmCv5U7d7... <-- There are some pics I've taken if you'd like to check them out. Our techs were sent to New Jersey for training on the dishwashers. We've torn them apart and rebuilt them and we have all been very impressed with the build quality and the simplicity of the units. Anyways, I hope my $.02 is ok. |
Post# 965916 , Reply# 14   11/4/2017 at 05:47 (2,357 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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I was looking at one of these in Lowe's the other day...it would actually work well for me since I normally run my 1985 Hobart Monterey KA with a small load every other day. Most times I use Light Wash because it has such a robust wash action, "Light" does just fine. The dish drawers would work well for me because of that....small loads of dishes.
I too dread the day my KA is no longer useable. Though I was lucky to find a very low usage machine. The lady I bought it from only used it on the holidays. So literally like 2-3 times a year. I put stainless panels on it and it looks very modern-industrial-retro. LOVE it. I also put lots of butyl insulation on the door panel and kick panel because unlike the WP variants, the Hobart is VERY loud. It's as quiet as the WP ones now...around 60 decibels or so. Which for the late 80's was super quiet! haha. Not sure what other machines I'd replace it with honestly. Miele is an excellent choice and Bosch. |
Post# 965922 , Reply# 17   11/4/2017 at 06:31 (2,357 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Post# 965924 , Reply# 18   11/4/2017 at 06:45 (2,357 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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I had them in the new house......very unique machines.....
was super great for my partner who had back issues, as bending was not a problem with the drawers.... the top drawer always seemed to be favored...... for the few minor issues I had, Glenn was a BIG help in fixing.... and so true on the garbage disposal, these machines are NOT.....several times I came home to find a clogged machine from a guest who loaded and ran a cycle without scraping the dishes first.... given the choice at the time, wished for two of them, one on each side of the sink....but I opted out for a TallTub KA, tall plates and capacity were the factor for that.... I had a new one given to me, as it was deemed defective and leaked.....the counter tops were granite, so the installer drilled holes in the side to fasten it to the cabinet....he drilled/screwed through the arms that pulled down the lids, hence the leak.... |
Post# 965957 , Reply# 22   11/4/2017 at 09:36 (2,357 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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They've been on the market for 20 years (1996/1997) and have undergone numerous engineering revisions. Latest is series 9. My DD603 is 14 years (& 3 months). Cycles are revised now with fewer water changes (mine does maximum of 7 on the Heavy cycle -- W-R-R-W-R-R-R) and possibly a longer wash period to facilitate detergent enzymes. A possible advantage is that the main wash and final rinse are always heated to target temperatures so specifically hot (i.e. 120°F) incoming water isn't required (although the installation instructions recommend it). There's no drying heater. Drying is via the heated final rinse (and rinse aid) with a small fan to exhaust moisture. |