Thread Number: 73177
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Post# 966551   11/7/2017 at 08:48 (2,333 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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I went to the training yesterday. The washer has a 1 hp motor, neutral drain. No brakes. Lid lock, but can be relatively easily opened. I think this new washer is going to be pretty good. |
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Post# 966555 , Reply# 1   11/7/2017 at 09:22 (2,333 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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Ooh! These look great! Like the agitator. Do these still say commercial heavy duty ? I can't make it out clearly. |
Post# 966563 , Reply# 2   11/7/2017 at 10:07 (2,333 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Post# 966578 , Reply# 4   11/7/2017 at 10:46 (2,333 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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Have you seen it operate? I am very curious as to how well it washes now. |
Post# 966583 , Reply# 5   11/7/2017 at 10:54 (2,333 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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I hope we will be able to see that before the new year. I have confidence these will be very good machines. GO SPEED QUEEN 👑! |
Post# 966590 , Reply# 6   11/7/2017 at 11:24 (2,333 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Wow - that looks like something straight out of the 80s. I LOVE IT. I think I like this design much better than previous.
This has me thinking - Back in the 80s when we could buy quality TL washers that were made to last - but not necessarily the SQ brand, but maybe a Kenmore TLer or Maytag or something like that - would the price for the TL washers back then (adjusted for inflation) be comparable to the current price of these? |
Post# 966593 , Reply# 7   11/7/2017 at 11:37 (2,333 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Apparently there are more cycles, and a quick wash option. Therefor they slashed the third rinse option (which makes sense with the TL). Really intrigued about cycle design now... |
Post# 966594 , Reply# 8   11/7/2017 at 11:42 (2,333 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 966596 , Reply# 9   11/7/2017 at 12:06 (2,333 days old) by Infusor (Usa)   |   | |
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Wow, thanks for sharing the pictures, definately reminds me of a magic chef/norge, i still wonder if there is going to be the same if not more clothes rollover than the current model |
Post# 966620 , Reply# 12   11/7/2017 at 15:27 (2,333 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Making 30.00 an hour....Good grief,you are RICH man, I don't make half that now! |
Post# 966647 , Reply# 14   11/7/2017 at 16:52 (2,333 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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That would benefit EVERYONE! |
Post# 966653 , Reply# 15   11/7/2017 at 17:01 (2,333 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Would love to know what the Specialty Cycles are. I see they moved Speed Wash from the main cycle area to the options. Suppose that means you can speed up almost any cycle, which would be cool. Guess mine is called Quick Cycle, not Speed Wash.
I like the new console, but agree it definitely gives the machine a 1980s look. |
Post# 966674 , Reply# 17   11/7/2017 at 18:43 (2,333 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 966697 , Reply# 19   11/7/2017 at 20:36 (2,333 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 966704 , Reply# 20   11/7/2017 at 21:32 (2,333 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 966722 , Reply# 21   11/7/2017 at 22:42 (2,333 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 966731 , Reply# 23   11/7/2017 at 23:53 (2,333 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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You can have both, or for that manner many. Honestly, I wish I could try one of those. I already have a Queen that I love, but I would not mind a 2 month test driver. Who knows, this might even be gentler on clothes.
For those who went through the training, is there classic pressure switch or an on-board traducer? |
Post# 966732 , Reply# 24   11/7/2017 at 23:55 (2,333 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 966735 , Reply# 26   11/8/2017 at 01:02 (2,333 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)   |   | |
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I find the control panel a real turn off. Just plain ugly. |
Post# 966764 , Reply# 27   11/8/2017 at 06:29 (2,332 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Post# 966776 , Reply# 29   11/8/2017 at 07:40 (2,332 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Just put a fluorescent light on the washer and the dryer, that would sell it more than anything, Stoves too, without a light they all look cheap. |
Post# 966789 , Reply# 30   11/8/2017 at 08:53 (2,332 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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The lid lock is not able to be bypassed. ThIs new model does have a transducer instead of a traditional pressure switch. |
Post# 966791 , Reply# 31   11/8/2017 at 09:00 (2,332 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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If I missed it sorry, but does it lock for the whole cycle or just spin ? |
Post# 966798 , Reply# 32   11/8/2017 at 10:14 (2,332 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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It was reported that the lid locks only during spins. Hope that's correct. It would be a real drag to have it locked the entire cycle. Besides getting a gander the new wash action, I'm excited to see how the Autofill setting works.
Simplifying the drive mechanism on the 2018's makes complete sense and should help the machine be more reliable. I'll have to be sold on the new wash action, though. Time (and videos) will tell, I guess. For the time being, I'm glad to have the last of the truly traditional washers (2017 Series 9). It's my way of owning a vintage washer--entertaining spin-drain, even---without the hassle of trying to find parts and make repairs myself. Truth be told, I've actually grown quite fond of it, much to my surprise. I put in a load of bedding this morning and set it to start in 9 hours. I'll have freshly washed linens to put in the dryer when I get home tonight. |
Post# 966800 , Reply# 33   11/8/2017 at 10:23 (2,332 days old) by KenmoreBD (Mass, usa )   |   | |
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Love love love the new look! |
Post# 966804 , Reply# 35   11/8/2017 at 10:51 (2,332 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 966809 , Reply# 37   11/8/2017 at 11:07 (2,332 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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Don’t quote me, but I believe he said it locks 30 seconds after agitation starts. There is a pause button that will immediately unlock as long as the tub is not moving. |
Post# 966811 , Reply# 38   11/8/2017 at 11:13 (2,332 days old) by Real1 (Eastern WA)   |   | |
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Hmmmm...I doubt anything could be as bad as that 'wax switch' in my 98 FL Neptune. If the 'locked' light is on and you pause the cycle, you have to wait five minutes for the door to unlock.
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Post# 966812 , Reply# 39   11/8/2017 at 11:14 (2,332 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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I like the new/old look too but, I'm not sure about the new agitator. The thicker lower vanes don't seem like they'll be as powerful as the Wavy-Vane fins. |
Post# 966816 , Reply# 40   11/8/2017 at 11:31 (2,332 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 966819 , Reply# 41   11/8/2017 at 11:44 (2,332 days old) by duttyb11 (Mountain City)   |   | |
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Does anyone think there will be a way to bypass the damn lid lock. We want to see whats going on inside the machine. Any ideas? |
Post# 966833 , Reply# 43   11/8/2017 at 12:44 (2,332 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 966853 , Reply# 44   11/8/2017 at 14:45 (2,332 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 966863 , Reply# 46   11/8/2017 at 15:49 (2,332 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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They probably could, but it would probably increase belt wear and with drum and agitator bolted toge5her long strokes will work better I suppose, otherwise you just end up with ropes around the agitator... |
Post# 966864 , Reply# 47   11/8/2017 at 16:05 (2,332 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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The tub is still smooth = little resistance. The agitator is really the only thing that will cause serious resistance when agitating. That and a bit of swirling around of water. The belt is very robust. It won’t break anytime soon. |
Post# 966865 , Reply# 48   11/8/2017 at 16:16 (2,332 days old) by Mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Hi Eugene,
Thanks for the pics, much appreciated. Is the control panel colour actually black or a dark brown? I've actually emailed Alliance this morning asking if this is design all export markets will get, considering we in Australia don't have the same stringent energy requirements as you do. I can't imagine they'll still be producing machines with transmissions for export markets, doesn't make financial sense. Cheers Leon |
Post# 966870 , Reply# 49   11/8/2017 at 17:01 (2,332 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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My eyes aren’t the best anymore but I say definitely black. |
Post# 966974 , Reply# 55   11/9/2017 at 07:14 (2,331 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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The tubs look the same as the current models. What will be the case it's for these machines ? Still 3.3 cu.ft 16 LB. capacity ? |
Post# 967000 , Reply# 56   11/9/2017 at 10:00 (2,331 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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Now, if they offered these machines in gold metallic, high gloss candy apple red and accentuate the control panels with gold highlights against satin black - they'd be works of art. |
Post# 967003 , Reply# 57   11/9/2017 at 10:17 (2,331 days old) by potatochips ( )   |   | |
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Malcolm, I was gonna say the same thing. Very reminiscent of the Marathon series. |
Post# 967006 , Reply# 58   11/9/2017 at 10:46 (2,331 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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I just want to see a video of one in action. Seeing is believing! |
Post# 967122 , Reply# 59   11/10/2017 at 06:21 (2,330 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 967137 , Reply# 60   11/10/2017 at 08:39 (2,330 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 967497 , Reply# 61   11/12/2017 at 15:25 (2,328 days old) by Whatsername (Denver, CO)   |   | |
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Post# 967498 , Reply# 62   11/12/2017 at 15:31 (2,328 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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It's like on your kitchen sink with that little screen that forces air into the water stream. Rather 'oxygenates' it...SQ used to advertise that in their brochures (found in the ephemera section) |
Post# 967510 , Reply# 63   11/12/2017 at 16:52 (2,328 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Immediately before leaving for Amsterdam, I watch seven videos of this new machine washing at a training meeting for the sales people.
The lid locks after five minutes. Even though the motor is rated at 1 hp it’s half the size and weight and cost to manufacture as the previous 1/2 hp motor. I do believe this machine is a big improvement in durability and serviceability but I do not think it will turn over laundry well at all, in the videos there is almost no clothing turn over, I predict it will have real problems large loads of really dirty clothing. Good news is it will be much more gentle on clothing. The new styleling looks really good, the machine looks much more expensive and the knobs don’t look cheap. |
Post# 967618 , Reply# 66   11/12/2017 at 23:42 (2,328 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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why not just wait and see? Obviously no one here was involved in the planning, engineering or design. |
Post# 967619 , Reply# 67   11/12/2017 at 23:45 (2,328 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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Who has time to wait? Not me. I wanted it yesterday. |
Post# 967620 , Reply# 68   11/12/2017 at 23:51 (2,328 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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No, miss--time is life. Hopefully before yours is up, you'll come to realize that. |
Post# 967626 , Reply# 69   11/13/2017 at 00:46 (2,328 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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What kind of motor does this new SQ washer use? |
Post# 967678 , Reply# 70   11/13/2017 at 08:33 (2,327 days old) by Infusor (Usa)   |   | |
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I think it's a variable speed induction motor like on their front load machines. |
Post# 967684 , Reply# 71   11/13/2017 at 09:07 (2,327 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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So John Combo52...are the 2.5 rotations set ? Or can it oscillate more revolutions depending on load size? I would think it would need to to get the rollover. Once again time will tell. |
Post# 967837 , Reply# 75   11/14/2017 at 01:53 (2,327 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi guys, I have seen six videos of this washer running there is no rollover, the agitator is there essentially just to make it look like the old machine.
First the good news because I don’t like to be too negative, it will be gentler on the clothing it spins better and it should be incredibly reliable and easier to repair. This new Washer will actually take Speed Queen upscale in the market quite a bit, most of the complaints we get about the current Toploader have to do with noise and excessive clothing wear. Bad news is it won’t clean really dirty clothing like their current machine so it will lose acceptance with farmers in auto mechanics and such. The other bad news unless you use it on eco-normal this machine uses way too much water for what it’s doing. Remember for the time being you can still get a 24 or 27”WP TT with real cast iron transmission and agitation to match. I would not have though WP would be the last to build a traditional washer for home use. John L. |
Post# 967857 , Reply# 78   11/14/2017 at 06:53 (2,326 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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well in reality, this is the new 'Dependable Care' so the speak....
as JohnL stated, it will be reliable and easy to work on......sounds like a Maytag to me... people bought Maytags because they were dependable, not because of their washing action...they were designed to 'give in' to the load, and not put any stress on the machine.... why do you think it only operated with the lid closed?...so you could not see what was going on inside... and just like a Maytag, people will have to adapt to under loading to get the best results.... and as most people today, are just going to load and go....their not going to give any more thought to it.... Alliance, like any company wanting to survive into the future, will have to adapt to the future... but as so many have said....this is a free enterprise nation, you are welcome to open your own factory and build whatever machine you choose....and see how far you get doing it your own way.... |
Post# 967859 , Reply# 79   11/14/2017 at 07:07 (2,326 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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I think the standard tub models though had better wash action. I've used many Maytag standard tub washers and I saw powerful turnover with those machines.. as long as they are not overloaded. |
Post# 967867 , Reply# 80   11/14/2017 at 07:40 (2,326 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I am Martin I agree with most of your thoughts as usual, it’s amazing how bad made tags were in overall performance in the 70s compared to the other machines that were available in the US.
But as time has gone on those older Maytag‘s actually look better, and I’m sure any Maytag ever made including the lethargic AMPs will out wash this new Speed Queen for overall cleaning ability. |
Post# 967868 , Reply# 81   11/14/2017 at 07:43 (2,326 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 967873 , Reply# 82   11/14/2017 at 08:05 (2,326 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 967876 , Reply# 83   11/14/2017 at 08:24 (2,326 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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If the current batch of SQ FL washers are cleaning well now.. what do you really need a heater for? Kind of takes away from the name. |
Post# 967884 , Reply# 84   11/14/2017 at 08:36 (2,326 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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@Johnrk: People are entitled to their opinions, and may even know something the other person does not. One thing I've noticed on this forum is that only certain view points and certain preferences are allowed to prevail. When the side disparaging has just as many flaws they refuse to acknowledge. Those wanting traditional fast agitator washers are not just a fringe minority, but rather plentiful. Anyone that has read reviews or overheard appliance store talk knows this. Second people who can appreciate something, should. Mourning the loss of Bendix and Westinghouse front loaders would be warranted even by your standards since it was the last of the HE machines in the US since the late 90s. As for people designing machines- and really any engineer- has to work on a budget and the codes at hand. They are human, make mistakes- and are really forced to do what they have to do.
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Post# 967899 , Reply# 85   11/14/2017 at 09:56 (2,326 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I wonder what the new 2018 speed queen top load machines will sound like. |
Post# 967925 , Reply# 86   11/14/2017 at 14:24 (2,326 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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Thank you chetlaham, hey Yogi...you're right Yogi it is about being able to survive into and adapting to the future. |
Post# 967995 , Reply# 89   11/14/2017 at 22:28 (2,326 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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Hmm, thanks again chetlaham. |
Post# 968045 , Reply# 90   11/15/2017 at 06:32 (2,325 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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@Johnrk: I'm not taking your bait. Asking people if they cried over X machine and to then get over it- then accusing me of psychoanalysis when I called you out on doing just that. I think its clear you're trying to get a rise out of me and other members.
@Scrubflex: Weclome :) Its not fair that forum members have to be shamed over the very thing this forum was built for: the appreciation of old and new appliances alike. But considering that his post received 4 likes as of typing this and people continually trying to make others feel crazy or inferior for liking (or even collecting) certain machines shows everything thats wrong with this forum. Many of us come here to escape the judgment and to find like minds, only to encounter the very thing we are trying to take a break from in the first place. |
Post# 968047 , Reply# 91   11/15/2017 at 06:34 (2,325 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 968079 , Reply# 93   11/15/2017 at 09:19 (2,325 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 968083 , Reply# 94   11/15/2017 at 10:09 (2,325 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 968085 , Reply# 95   11/15/2017 at 10:54 (2,325 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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Yes...and not at all:)...my sister had the 'Suzy' yogi |
Post# 968094 , Reply# 96   11/15/2017 at 11:23 (2,325 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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The easy whirldry was a good one |
Post# 968140 , Reply# 97   11/15/2017 at 16:19 (2,325 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)   |   | |
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Here is a 1957 Turner Sapphire Semi Auto |
Post# 968151 , Reply# 98   11/15/2017 at 17:23 (2,325 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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Now how cool 😎 is that ! |
Post# 968153 , Reply# 99   11/15/2017 at 17:29 (2,325 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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You took the bait. And of course your being a pompous sort trying to lecture others doesn't appear to be backed by any qualifications other than an propensity to pontificate. |
Post# 968161 , Reply# 100   11/15/2017 at 17:58 (2,325 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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Guys knock it off already. This has been an enjoyable thread...lets keep it that way please. |
Post# 968164 , Reply# 101   11/15/2017 at 18:08 (2,325 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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I couldn't agree more. I despite hot air, particularly when it's not backed up with capability. I don't come here to listen to that. And fortunately, I haven't found that--with most of the participants. |
Post# 968197 , Reply# 102   11/15/2017 at 19:44 (2,325 days old) by Infusor (Usa)   |   | |
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Yes knock it off, it's really annoying and ruining it for the rest of us. |
Post# 968219 , Reply# 103   11/15/2017 at 20:10 (2,325 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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It's all in fun! |
Post# 968233 , Reply# 104   11/15/2017 at 21:01 (2,325 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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But suppose you have to give SQ credit for keeping something alive that is obviously dying and or becoming more difficult to produce/manage; top loading washing machines with a central beater.
Given the ever increasing puny water/energy usage restrictions on washing machines there are limits to how low things can go and still give a proper wash. |
Post# 968246 , Reply# 108   11/15/2017 at 22:29 (2,325 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Is what most people love a Maytag...You can have all of them, I jinx them just like I jinx a GM car. |
Post# 968268 , Reply# 110   11/16/2017 at 01:15 (2,325 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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That's true, better than I thought it would (slope-vanes)...I am looking forward to see it in action as well...Are there anymore pics of the 2018 Speed Queen? There aren't any articles or info about the new SQ's on the internet. |
Post# 968285 , Reply# 111   11/16/2017 at 06:57 (2,324 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 968442 , Reply# 121   11/16/2017 at 21:33 (2,324 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I wonder what the control panel layout is going to be. |
Post# 968451 , Reply# 124   11/16/2017 at 22:26 (2,324 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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LOL If you get another 10 years out of it it will be more than worth it, it will be a miracle!!!! |
Post# 968484 , Reply# 125   11/17/2017 at 05:53 (2,324 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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Doesn't SQ claim their testing method equates to 20-25 years of use?....yeah right! Your right though brucelucenta,...with all the extra rinsing I do with the machine I will be happy with 10 years total..LOL |
Post# 968639 , Reply# 132   11/18/2017 at 02:16 (2,323 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Because there are such diverse experiences with these plagues on our machines, I think there's something else either climate-based or simply environment-based that we haven't learned yet.
Wouldn't surprise me.
I can't comment about mold and mildew in front load machines. But I think I had a problem this last summer in a BOL WP DD. At least, it smelled funny--and the smell wasn't a leftover fragrance from the Cold Water Tide I was experimenting with. "Cold water" might explain the problem--but I never really went very cold with my experiments at that time, and I was running plenty of regular washes with other detergents with warmer water. I was using only liquid detergent--but I've used liquids pretty much exclusively for some time with no problem. In any case, I did things to try and correct, such as being sure to use warm enough water, use a bit of my limited powder detergent stash, etc. Finally, I ended up running a full tub of water with bleach. Problem solved...but it came back when I started experimenting with the Tide again. I shelved the Tide, did a bleaching routine, and the problem was solved.
Odd thing...but I went back to using that Tide again a few weeks ago. Mainly because I hate throwing detergent away... And no problems this time. My only guess is that there is something with that Tide formula coupled with a summer-warm laundry room. (I've never had problems in summer before, and I've lived with this laundry room many years now, and this washer for at least 2,3 years now.) This post was last edited 11/18/2017 at 02:49 |
Post# 968655 , Reply# 133   11/18/2017 at 05:21 (2,323 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 968663 , Reply# 134   11/18/2017 at 07:15 (2,322 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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How sad that your experience with a machine like that colored your entire outlook toward top loaders! Let's hope you never burn anything on the stove or you might give up ranges...LOL |
Post# 968684 , Reply# 135   11/18/2017 at 09:19 (2,322 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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drilling a hole in the center can be done.....been there...done that....
it will turn your agitator into a powerfin style....I only did the hole in the center to help keep it clean from softener build up....I really didn't have to drill one in the sides, it will pull water down and underneath.... in fact, dropping in of those little screen used for a sink strainer should work nicely...
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Post# 968699 , Reply# 136   11/18/2017 at 11:31 (2,322 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The new SQ TL will solve the lint problem, as the agitation is much less aggressive and the neutral drain will help immensely.
The problem with mold and foul odors in FL [ or TL ] washers is always entirely caused by poor washing habits and usage habits.[ this is why one house has the problem and the house next door does not have the problem ] It has never been found to be a problem of the washer. For all washers, always use plenty a GOOD quality detergent, skip the cheap national brands like but not limited to, Arm&hammer, purex, All, Amway, and any Eco brands. ALWAYS wash in at least 100F water, this usually means on a FL washer always using the hot wash setting. If you use fabric softener it is even more important to wash clothing properly the next time. Use LCB when ever possible. It is really never necessary to run washer clean cycles, wipe the door boot etc. Wiping the door boot is only the tip of the iceberg, most mold forms on the inside of the outer tub and on the outside of the wash basket, spider and inside the wash baffles, dispenser ares hoses and other parts exposed to water that you cannot even get to. Never try to rinse in warm water, warm leaves the machine at a perfect temperature for things to grow. My SQ FL washer smells like a new machine after 12 years of use, When I left for Amsterdam and London the other week I stripped my bed put the sheets in the SQ FLer and forgot them, when I got back 8 days latter I went to my room and saw I had not made the bed went down found the sheets still in the washer with the door closed tightly and though oh s..t. I opened the door which was covered with condensation on the inside and pulled out a sheet and smelled it, It was as fresh as if the machine had just been run so in the dryer they went and back on the bed. John L. |
Post# 968707 , Reply# 137   11/18/2017 at 12:39 (2,322 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 968708 , Reply# 138   11/18/2017 at 12:46 (2,322 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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Well, I guess I just don't deserve to live without mold in a front loader, then. |
Post# 968732 , Reply# 145   11/18/2017 at 14:53 (2,322 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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There could be many variables that lead to mold in front loaders.
On top of user error, never letting the machine dry out, or using incorrect amounts of detergents/softeners, there could also be other chemical factors. My home water is very alkaline, with a pH of 8.5 or more! That contributes to my glasses etching with my soft water. However my front loader is sparkling. There's also factors such as temperature and humidity of the laundry room. Then there's also the factor of different people, and different soils that get introduced to the machine. All these factors can commingle and cause situations where some machines will never mold, or others will always mold, wether it's a front loader of X or Y brand, or even some top loaders! |
Post# 968745 , Reply# 146   11/18/2017 at 15:31 (2,322 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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like it or not, there has to be something leading to this mold/mildew issue...and why some get it, and others don't....
of course there are variables to consider....water, temps, cycles, chemicals, etc... for me, this goes way back into the 80's when I had a Frigidaire Tall Tumbler, there was not dispenser drawer, and never gave it a thought, once unloaded, shut and latched the door, out of sight out of mind....never an issue..... I have acquired countless FL machines reeking with filth, mold, mildew....once you clean the heavy stuff with a major chlorine flush, anything that was left, went away on its own during future washings.... all I can say, is I know what has cured the machines, and what prevents it in the first place.....at the end of my wash day, I shut the door and walk away....I don't leave doors or dispensers open, I don't wipe anything down, no special cleaners, in fact my machines don't offer a 'clean washer' cycle....its just a gimmick in my mind.... I do polish the exterior once in a while with car wax..... you may have to discover your own method..... |
Post# 968749 , Reply# 147   11/18/2017 at 15:37 (2,322 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Post# 968750 , Reply# 148   11/18/2017 at 15:38 (2,322 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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You owned one of my dream machines: an eighties Tall Tumbler! What color was yours? Did you like it? How did it compare for you with contemporary top loaders? I know they were supposed to be trouble-prone, but I still think they're ultra-cool. |
Post# 968797 , Reply# 150   11/18/2017 at 18:36 (2,322 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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I got the TallTumbler aka 'Space Mates' for my partner, at the time he only had a GE filterflo in a bathroom closet....a full size all-in-one stack was too tall, but separate units were easier to install....they were floor model clearance from Sears, and still cheaper than a 24" stacked portable set....the flat back allowed for close to wall install as well....
they were white, which I think was the only color available from Sears....and maybe Almond...this was considered part of their Specialty line up.... with a well, septic, and an electric water heater, the best option you could choose at the time.....not to mention, full size capacity...this home machine was best for blankets and throw rugs... I thought the Weigh-to-Save door was unique.....but in reality, you could leave it on low water level for every load, as it really was self adjusting to the amount of clothes.....no dispensers which was a bummer, but all you needed was a shot glass of Tide for every load.... the drop down door was better to load/unload versus these side swing doors.... the only issue was if it hit a major out of balance during spin, one rear corner snubber would jump out of place....I installed a piece of angle iron across the top, which didn't let the unit jump too high and out of place....other than that, it ran flawless for 10 years until he sold the house and left them behind..... quiet during wash, but you knew when it went into drain or spin, at the SNAP of those solenoids... the matching dryer had the 'Cross Vane' tumbling...probably one of the best at not rolling sheets and blankets into a ball.... for his next house I got him the Neptunes.....
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Post# 968802 , Reply# 151   11/18/2017 at 18:56 (2,322 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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Great story--thanks so much- |
Post# 968832 , Reply# 152   11/18/2017 at 21:19 (2,322 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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While H-axis washers are in theory a more gentle method of washing than say washers with central beaters; things do happen.
Have towels that have begun to fray along edges that have been washed in nothing but front loaders (the Miele and lately Lavamat),but we're talking about bath linens that are nearly twenty years old and seen frequent long hot water washes. Assuming there aren't any defects in tub or boot, usual culprit is laundry that is rubbing against glass porthole, and or along inside boot/door. This can be anything from over loading to poor design. For certain fabrics/loads it may be wise to slightly under load washer to give things more room to move about. This should help reduce friction and wear. Other issue is thanks to ever increasing energy standards there is less water even in h-axis washing machines to do the job. This has lead to reports in some sectors of increased wear on washing, but manufactures and or federal government seem to think otherwise. |
Post# 968953 , Reply# 153   11/19/2017 at 17:30 (2,321 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)   |   | |
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I got my SQ 432 about six years ago. Never had a problem of any kind with it other than annoyingly slow fill. Lint, water extraction, odors and capacity have never been an issue. |
Post# 969053 , Reply# 154   11/20/2017 at 07:25 (2,320 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 969879 , Reply# 155   11/25/2017 at 13:47 (2,315 days old) by agiflow2 ()   |   | |
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Any more news on the new queens? |
Post# 969922 , Reply# 156   11/25/2017 at 16:24 (2,315 days old) by Joem (New jersey)   |   | |
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Does the agitator and tub move back and forth Together? I wish they made the lid out of glass so we can see it work |
Post# 972139 , Reply# 158   12/7/2017 at 12:26 (2,303 days old) by Infusor (Usa)   |   | |
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Our friend kirk just uploaded this CLICK HERE TO GO TO Infusor's LINK |
Post# 972144 , Reply# 159   12/7/2017 at 13:14 (2,303 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 972196 , Reply# 160   12/7/2017 at 17:37 (2,303 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)   |   | |
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Fascinating little video. I'm glad I just bought my 432, though, as I don't like the control panel. I think the new Maytag black panel is more attractive. Certainly looks substantial in this video. |
Post# 972215 , Reply# 161   12/7/2017 at 20:07 (2,303 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I predict are going to be about the most reliable TL washers EVER built, cleaning performance and energy efficiency will be another matter.
I also predict that SQ will lose at least 1/4 of their TL washer sales in the next few years if not much more.
Until you see the new control panels in person you may not realize how much better they look and they have more of a quality look and feel.
The current panel design has been in production more than 20 years, and they have had problems with the plastic end caps cracking for years and discoloration problems for years as well, the new look and better looking knobs will be a big hit with buyers if they see them both side by side.
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Post# 972414 , Reply# 162   12/8/2017 at 17:49 (2,302 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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I’ll make a proper video for you guys once I get them installed |
Post# 972415 , Reply# 163   12/8/2017 at 17:54 (2,302 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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I trust your wisdom.
We'll see however- it is very possible- but we don't know what trick Speed Queen may have up their sleeve for getting an agitub washer to clean well. For example, with rapid acceleration and deceleration they could use the inertia of the clothes to rotate themselves around the agitator. Physics it does not matter which body is stationary and which is moving, the final outcome is the same. At least thats what I am hoping. But in all honesty Speed Queen may have done themselves in. Heres why: I was on a chatforum today and the topic of washers came up. I brought up Speed Queen which lead several others to do so as well. The lady looking for a washer brought up that Speed Queen was rated less than other washers in wash-ability according to consumer reports. IMO, and personally, thats BS. However with these new washers the prophecy may finally full-fill itself. SQ could (easily) become the long life poor cleaning washer in everyone's eyes 'yahh super long life, but they do that by removing the parts that clean' Not what was said in the chat, just what I think we might end up hearing in the general public opinion. Personally Speed Queen could have used the opportunity to produce the best cleaning washer possible. With a mod shifter and even a tub break that variable Speed motor could have been put to good use. At east we have a modern day Maytag... |
Post# 972416 , Reply# 164   12/8/2017 at 17:56 (2,302 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 972481 , Reply# 166   12/9/2017 at 02:30 (2,302 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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