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Thread Number: 7340
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| Post# 144394 7/22/2006 at 21:59 (6,486 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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What's this? What do we have here in the back of my friend Brian's Subaru? 
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Post# 144418 , Reply# 4 7/22/2006 at 23:07 (6,486 days old) by gansky1  (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 144457 , Reply# 6 7/23/2006 at 07:42 (6,486 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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I had that exact dishwasher....
And absolutely loved it.....bought it used in avocado green, had the front panels spray painted to harvest gold(to match my kitchen), and then when I did a kitchen remodel, had the panels spray painted again to almond. The only thing I needed was new racks since the ones that were in the machine were badly rusted. I don't really know, but perhaps that machine is still in the condo that I sold in 1987. Good Luck with it~! | ||
| Post# 144463 , Reply# 7 7/23/2006 at 08:29 (6,486 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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Post# 144502 , Reply# 8 7/23/2006 at 12:02 (6,486 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 144527 , Reply# 10 7/23/2006 at 13:32 (6,486 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 144565 , Reply# 11 7/23/2006 at 17:45 (6,485 days old) by westytoploader () | ||
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Congrats on the new KitchenAid; the glossy black really goes well with the woodgrain control panel! Can't wait to see it installed and washing away! | ||
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Post# 144676 , Reply# 12 7/24/2006 at 00:33 (6,485 days old) by geoff (Cape Coral, FL) |
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oh my | ||
| Post# 144695 , Reply# 13 7/24/2006 at 06:44 (6,485 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston) | ||
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Looks like hurricane season has begun in the Parker household, too. LOL, Bobby in Boston | ||
| Post# 144898 , Reply# 14 7/25/2006 at 07:38 (6,484 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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No Hurricanes yet Now how in the heck does the damn door gasket come off? Enquiring minds want to know! | ||
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Post# 144905 , Reply# 15 7/25/2006 at 08:29 (6,484 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Peel back the gasket | ||
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Post# 144943 , Reply# 16 7/25/2006 at 11:45 (6,484 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Hey Hoover1060,
I have an entire repair manual for the KitchenAid KD-17 series. I also have a KDS-17 and a KDS-17a both disassembled in my basement. I'm intending to Frankenstein them into one beautiful working machine, but have yet to get to them. The manual itself is about 40+ pages long, and I have wanted to post it to this site, but my scanner interface is on the fritz again. If you need it and would like to use it, I can Xerox it for you and send it via snail-mail. Let me know if you're interested with an email or a posting response and I'll send you the details.
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| Post# 145089 , Reply# 17 7/25/2006 at 23:02 (6,483 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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I would love to see that manual! I think I'll be able to get this thing installed too! I hope I can do it myself! | ||
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Post# 145093 , Reply# 18 7/25/2006 at 23:18 (6,483 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Oh, you'll do just fine installing this - easy as pie! The door gasket is a pretty easy fix, do you have the replacement gasket? Like Fred said, peel back the gasket - you'll see the screws holding it and the mounting strip to the door. The maual mentions getting the clips back in the same place they were, so it sounds like that should give you little or no trouble at all! Good luck! | ||
| Post# 145250 , Reply# 20 7/26/2006 at 11:47 (6,483 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston) | ||
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Does anyone have a service manual for the 20 series? I would love a copy. Bobby in Boston | ||
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Post# 145372 , Reply# 21 7/26/2006 at 21:04 (6,482 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York) |
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I might... Bobby I have the full set from the KD-10 series, including some duplicates.... I will check SteveD | ||
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Post# 145527 , Reply# 22 7/27/2006 at 18:40 (6,481 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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KD-17 Series Service Manual | ||
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Post# 145585 , Reply# 23 7/28/2006 at 00:05 (6,481 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois) |
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Hi Jeff, I love your new machine! The black looks wonderful and it will look great (swell) lol in your kitchen. I hope you and everyone there are fine. Gary | ||
| Post# 145618 , Reply# 24 7/28/2006 at 08:52 (6,481 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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Thanks Gary! Installation day is tomorrow hopefully, just depends on how long I have to work. I can't wait to get this machine in and running! | ||
| Post# 145760 , Reply# 25 7/28/2006 at 22:24 (6,480 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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Valedictory wash... The Kenmore ran its last load(for a while) tonight. Here it is, captured for posterity... 
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Post# 145795 , Reply# 26 7/29/2006 at 00:05 (6,480 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 145814 , Reply# 27 7/29/2006 at 07:03 (6,480 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Hey Jeff
I just thought of something. Take a picture of the KDS-17A uninstalled without the towel over it to show the steel reinforcing bars that run up an down both sides of the machine. They stopped that somewhere along the line before the 23. You could literally run over those machines with a steamroller and not make a dent. That and triple porcelean over steel wash chamber. No wonder they are still running 30 years later! Notice and appreciate the difference in construction as you take the old one out and put the new (old) one in. It will give you an appreciation of the quality that used to go into those machines. Enjoy! Fred | ||
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Post# 145816 , Reply# 28 7/29/2006 at 07:12 (6,480 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Here's My KDS-17 | ||
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Post# 145818 , Reply# 29 7/29/2006 at 07:37 (6,480 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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The inevitable slide?
I so agree about the side brackets. It was a thoughtful detail that befitted the flagship model of the brand. I'll never forget helping my Father install our KitchenAid dishwasher in 1972...I was so impressed with how well and solidly built the thing was.I think KitchenAid achieved design perfection in its KD-17 series much in the way Maytag had achieved it in their 906-106 models. Once they started monkeying around with a third spray arm and knocked their racking strategy off-center (like Maytag knocking its control dial off-center) they started a slow spiral downwards into the Whirlpool. | ||
| Post# 145843 , Reply# 30 7/29/2006 at 11:14 (6,480 days old) by deeptub (Carbondale, IL) | ||
Steel Frame
The steel frame that extended to the top of the tank was eliminated on the 21 series (1984), presumably because by that point a full insulation blanket for the tank trumped the ability to hold up a counter. Interestingly, the "short frame" design of the 21-23 models is still much heavier and much more rigid than any of its contemporairies and most modern machines. If you raise one leveling leg of a 21-23, the machine will rock back and forth, not settle out-of-square like most new machines seem to. T. | ||
| Post# 145849 , Reply# 31 7/29/2006 at 12:16 (6,480 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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Hey Fred... How about a pic of the front of your KDS17? It looks FAB in your kitchen. I'm just about to leave work, I'll get a pic of the KDS17A and the old kenmore next to each other for comparison | ||
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Post# 145863 , Reply# 32 7/29/2006 at 13:26 (6,480 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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OK - Here's The Front
I found this with the brushed chrome (I think - because it also had a stainless steel option) front. I was lucky. I would like to also find the frame holder for this unit which allows you to put any panel in you like including matching the wood cabinetry. Check out post 144943 in Connecticut above. That's a custom panel holder. Thanks Ken, turquoise is one of my favorites - also my mom's - she had a complete turquoise kitchen - minus the dishwasher. The only problem with this installation is that there is a brace in the back of this unit to hold up the granite countertop which causes the unit to stick out a bit. I am going to take this unit out and take off the ledge behind the dishwasher so that it is flush with the cabinets, the way it was supposed to be.
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Post# 145864 , Reply# 33 7/29/2006 at 13:30 (6,480 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Here she is today | ||
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Post# 145869 , Reply# 34 7/29/2006 at 13:47 (6,480 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Here's Her Sister | ||
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Post# 145871 , Reply# 35 7/29/2006 at 13:49 (6,480 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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And the Old Aunt | ||
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Post# 145883 , Reply# 38 7/29/2006 at 15:29 (6,480 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 145892 , Reply# 39 7/29/2006 at 17:32 (6,479 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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Finally after much weeping and gnashing of teeth... Its in, and running and NOT leaking(THANK GOD!!) 
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| Post# 145894 , Reply# 40 7/29/2006 at 17:34 (6,479 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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we had leaks From the fill hose(replaced the clamp) and from the drain hose(teflon tape fixed this) 
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| Post# 145895 , Reply# 41 7/29/2006 at 17:36 (6,479 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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water draining into the Viking YAY, clean dishes are just around the corner! Thanks to Greg and Fred for their help too! 
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| Post# 145900 , Reply# 42 7/29/2006 at 18:27 (6,479 days old) by westytoploader () | ||
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Jeff, congratulations, looks great in its new home!! Glad to see you have it installed and washing away! | ||
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Post# 145904 , Reply# 43 7/29/2006 at 19:11 (6,479 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Yeah!!!! | ||
| Post# 145937 , Reply# 44 7/29/2006 at 22:50 (6,479 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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What a beautiful machine Jeff!! I bet that it even looks better in your kitchen that the picture shows. Can't wait to hear how you like it compared to the Kenmore. Terry | ||
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Post# 145955 , Reply# 45 7/30/2006 at 04:08 (6,479 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 145979 , Reply# 46 7/30/2006 at 09:25 (6,479 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 146007 , Reply# 47 7/30/2006 at 13:42 (6,479 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston) | ||
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It's a beauty, Jeff. You have to love those pretty amber lights! Boy, do I miss our 17-A. Bobby in Boston | ||
| Post# 146012 , Reply# 48 7/30/2006 at 14:12 (6,479 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm) | ||
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Jeff The black and wood grain do look very nice. Is that a function button below the cycle indicator lights? frntl | ||
| Post# 146013 , Reply# 49 7/30/2006 at 14:16 (6,479 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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the button Turns off the heater for drying, not sure if it turns off the blower or not. I'm still getting used to its looks and "feel" the door is way heavier than on my Kenmore! | ||
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Post# 146023 , Reply# 50 7/30/2006 at 16:32 (6,479 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 146136 , Reply# 51 7/31/2006 at 09:54 (6,478 days old) by deeptub (Carbondale, IL) | ||
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Congratulations, Jeff! I don't know why, but I've always found it charming the way the Prewash light goes out and then the Wash light comes on a half second later with the opening of the water valve. Sort of the one bit of evidence of the complex electromechanical controls underlying the simple pushbuttons and lights. I'm pleased that so many people are finding and using these machines for daily use (so to speak). I think regular use keeps them young. And it's possible that a lot of them are still in use in their original installations and are just becoming available to collectors (like Jeff's was). I got my first dishwasher (a KDS-17A) in 1998 and hoped it would get me through 2 years. Now 8 years later I'm still using it--it's been in 4 different apartments now! (Of course, 8 years ago I never dreamed that it would be the first of a fleet of dishwashers!) Good times T. PS Jeff, I love the old flooring visible under your DW! | ||
| Post# 146602 , Reply# 55 8/2/2006 at 18:31 (6,475 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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first full load Not quite a BOB load, but until I get the hang of loading this thing, this will be a full load... 
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Post# 146605 , Reply# 56 8/2/2006 at 18:47 (6,475 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Hey Jeff | ||
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Post# 146628 , Reply# 57 8/2/2006 at 20:39 (6,475 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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