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POD 21/11/2017 ?
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Post# 969390   11/22/2017 at 12:17 (304 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

Did anyone see it? I was away from the computer all day.

Where's Bruce Lucenta when you need him...

Post# 969393 , Reply# 1   11/22/2017 at 12:27 (304 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp, Michigan)        

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I am going to take a guess from seeing his new profile location description and say he is on vacation in Italy currently.

Interesting WP Combo though. I do wonder how they adapted it to Wash-N-Wear. Everybody knows how effective the cool down in a BD TL Whirlpool is and I cannot expect anything but the best in perm press from WP. Any information on that?

Post# 969394 , Reply# 2   11/22/2017 at 12:30 (304 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp, Michigan)        
Oh, Blasted!

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I just posted a responce to todays POD. Now I understand your question better, I'm clueless too on yesterday's POD, I didn't check either.

Post# 969414 , Reply# 3   11/22/2017 at 15:26 (304 days old) by HiLoVane (Columbus OH)        

Questin: Would Whirlpool's Filter Stream continuous spray action (recirculating existing water) be feasible in today's HE FL's?

Post# 969428 , Reply# 4   11/22/2017 at 17:59 (304 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Some of today's HE washers use or have experimented with the filter stream of recirculated water being used in the washing and rinsing process.

As to the cooldown needed for wash and wear before spinning, none of the combos, with the exception of the Duomatics, spun fast enough to set wrinkles and since they dried the clothes, the heat of the dry cycle completed the process of restoring features of the fabrics like elimination of wrinkles and restoration of various baked in features like pleats. The very thirsty cooldown at the end of wash was really only necessary when wash and wear garments were line dried. I have very successfully washed permanent pressed shirts in several Frigidaire washers which featured the high speed spins and had them emerge from the dryer looking brand new.

Post# 969450 , Reply# 5   11/22/2017 at 20:03 (304 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

Hate to be picky - but the Speed Queen combo spins 10 rpm faster than a Duomatic. 515rpm vs 505.

Post# 969470 , Reply# 6   11/22/2017 at 22:41 (304 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The Speed Queen's tub has a much narrower diameter than the Duomatics' that were contemporary with the first 33" RCA Whirlpool combo under discussion, and possibly even narrower than the tub in the 27" Duomatics, and the SQ combo only spins twice in the cycle and for brief periods of time whereas the Duomatic spins after each drain. There was a rinse or two before the SQ combo did a spin so that would cool down wash and wear. I believe there would have been two deep rinses before the first spin because the delicate cycle used the first deep rinse as the wash and there was a deep rinse after that wash before the spin. I can only speak about domestic Duomatic machines made here and not ones made in the UK.

Post# 969480 , Reply# 7   11/23/2017 at 00:19 (304 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        
Drying temperatures

5 drying temperatures on a combo?!? Gosh I wish they would redo these...

I am all for low temp heatpump drying. But having such a wide heat selection would be awesome regardless of technology.
The wash system was awesome as well. With some optimisation, it would surely be abled to hit todays standard while performing perfectly.

Did these use a blower for drying? Or just static heat?
Were these vented or condenser?
And any idea on what these 5 temperatures were? My head would guess 170-145F in 5F increments?

Post# 969528 , Reply# 8   11/23/2017 at 10:12 (304 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

I don't know if Duomatics were made in the UK at all. Chestermikeuk has a Gyramatic, and somebody else has an LTA, which appears to be a Mk2 27" Duomatic in all but name, but the old 36" Duomatics seem not to exist in the UK...

Post# 969541 , Reply# 9   11/23/2017 at 11:27 (304 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
'Twas an ad full of joy

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Whirlpool's invention of the Filter Stream was the genesis of what was to become the industry standard in Front Load Washing: Very low water level in the tub resulting in the high drop of laundry from ceiling to floor, constant bombardment of the laundry with jetted streams of water. When the LG turbo wash--a.k.a., Filter Stream--arrived, I could not believe how like the Whirlpool Combo it washed. A Delight to watch, cleans like the proverbial whistle, although I don't know how clean that whistle is if yer chewing' tobaccy.

Big kick out of the ad saying you could wash rinse and dry without having to stand around and watch, while the cute little wiener dog is indeed eagerly and happily watching, just like us.

Post# 969547 , Reply# 10   11/23/2017 at 11:59 (304 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Henrik, I will have to wait until I get back to work to see if one of the tests in magazines in the collection might have the drying temperatures. I guarantee you they were much higher than what you have suggested because the combos were having to evaporate more than an additional gallon of water that the slow spin speed left in the load compared with the amount of water left in a load that was spun by a regular automatic washer. Only the Bendix and Philco machines, because of their more complete water extraction, could afford to operate at 160F which is the sweet temperature for restoring the appearance of wash and wear fabrics.

The Whirlpool-made combos, both gas and electric, were airflow dryers and required venting. They had loud, powerful blowers.

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