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Post# 970074   11/26/2017 at 10:48 (2,314 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Does anyone have a list of washers that use or are using a timed fill? I am especially interested in any perforated tub models but all are welcome. Doing a project on these.




Post# 970077 , Reply# 1   11/26/2017 at 11:10 (2,314 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Some early Maytag's had a timed fill.


Post# 970082 , Reply# 2   11/26/2017 at 11:47 (2,314 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Wow, this will be quite a list... lol

Rule of thumb - if the washer had a solid tub, it's most likely a timed - fill.  I am going to base this reply on personal experience, so I am counting on others to "fill in the blanks"!!

ABC / Kelvinator - solid tub models from the 50s into the mid 60s

Blackstone - time fill until the late 60s

Frigidaire - from the first Unimatics in the late 40s until the late 60s were time-full

Dominion  (also Beatty and Zenith) time fill from the mid 50s until the product line was discontinued in the early 60s

GE - not truly time-fill but kinda... they depended on a sort of water level switch at the bottom of the tub until 1962 (I believe)

Hotpoint - timed fill through the 50s for sure; can't say when the 60s models went to a perf tub with a water level control 

Norge - time fill through the 50s until the late 60s

That's about all I have experience with, but there were definitely others like the early Maytags!

 


Post# 970085 , Reply# 3   11/26/2017 at 12:07 (2,314 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Well, (how did you miss this one?) Speed Queen...



-- Dave


Post# 970086 , Reply# 4   11/26/2017 at 12:09 (2,314 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Beginning with upper models in the Jet Action Roller-Matic series there were some metered fill Frigidaires with a little tube running from the fill flume down to a plastic collector box at the base of the machine. These were the machines where the rinse stopped filling when agitation began and began it again after a timer increment or two.

The solid tub GEs had a metered fill. Water slowly ran out under the agitator during the fill through the sediment ejector but the fill finally overflowed the tub to provide sufficient water for the Filter Flo operation by triggering a pressure switch in a sump in the outer tub.I guess the earlier 50s GEs just filled the tub to overflowing to trigger that pressure switch because no GE timers I have seen had provision for a fill period and they did that continuous advancing without an escapement. That is why they had the long pauses between parts of the cycle to avoid arcing between timer contacts.


Post# 970087 , Reply# 5   11/26/2017 at 12:10 (2,314 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Beginning with upper models in the Jet Action Roller-Matic series there were some metered fill Frigidaires with a little tube running from the fill flume down to a plastic collector box at the base of the machine. These were the machines where the rinse stopped filling when agitation began and began it again after a timer increment or two.

The solid tub GEs had a metered fill. Water slowly ran out under the agitator during the fill through the sediment ejector but the fill finally overflowed the tub to provide sufficient water for the Filter Flo operation by triggering a pressure switch in a sump in the outer tub. I guess the earlier 50s GEs just filled the tub to overflowing to trigger that pressure switch because no GE timers I have seen had provision for a fill period and they did that continuous advancing without an escapement. That is why they had the long pauses between parts of the cycle to avoid arcing between timer contacts.


Post# 970093 , Reply# 6   11/26/2017 at 13:05 (2,314 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Speed Queen missed

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D'OH!!

very true Dave!  Even Canadian Speed Queens in the 50s and 60s were time fill...

My 57, however, seems to be the " not enough time to fill" model... LOL


Post# 970236 , Reply# 7   11/27/2017 at 10:25 (2,313 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Thanks everyone, awesome replies. :)


What about front loads? Any that were ever timed filled?


Post# 970270 , Reply# 8   11/27/2017 at 14:10 (2,313 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Just timed my Speed Queen on Hot fill, full load full tub: about 7 minutes 40 seconds, give or take 4 seconds.

Post# 970281 , Reply# 9   11/27/2017 at 16:46 (2,313 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Timed fill front-loaders: Did those little round coin-op Westinghouse Laundromats have a timed fill? I seem to recall that the fill stopped when the timer advanced.

Whether I can trust my memory on the occasional use of one in the hometown laundromat 45+ years ago is another matter, LOL.

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Post# 970287 , Reply# 10   11/27/2017 at 17:10 (2,313 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Tom, the first Frigidaire washer that had metered fill was actually a low end 2 speed model from 1966 that didn't even have a water level adjustment (WCDAK-PF). In 1967 it spread to most higher end US models but also on the WCDL Custom Deluxe but these had infinite water level adjustment. I have a 1967 Custom Deluxe washer with the metered fill and infinite water level. My Canadian TOL machines from this period were still time-filled.

As for which machines had the time fill and true perforated tubs which fill their outer tubs, I don't know if that was even done. I think it could lead to problems if the machine overfills without a safety switch! Those with a solid tub design have a buffer with the outer tub that can fill after the inner tub.

BTW, my 1973 Frigidaire GMini is a time-filled solid tub machine but it does have a pressure switch as a safety feature in the outer tub in case it overfills.

These pictures show my 1967 WCDL/DCDL set.


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Post# 970307 , Reply# 11   11/27/2017 at 19:18 (2,313 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

I have high water pressure and my late sixties SQ easily overfills by two increments, even with hot water. So I have to be careful how I set it. The rinse agitation begins just when the water level reaches the top and begins overflowing, if set on cold. Warm always creates an overflow situation, and I don't mind.

The 1980 SQ has the larger solid-tub. Even if set to a warm rinse it never gets full before agitation begins, so it kind of shortens the true overflow rinsing effect accordingly. Probably Government intervention or pressure from the stupid Consumers Report. The Rinse fill needs needs a couple more increments.

The timed-fill Maytags were interesting. Depending on water pressure you got a little too much or a little less. However, I don't think they were any more prone to overflowing than any other perf-tub machine in those days. All you needed was a bad water valve.


Post# 970356 , Reply# 12   11/28/2017 at 06:45 (2,312 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Maytags with timed fill

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MTs first AWs were all metered fill but then they came out with a cheaper model with timed fill which worked ok because it had a large outer tub so flooding was not likley if it over filled somewhat.

 

I think that MT was the only company that dared to build a perforated basket washer with timed fill when they introduced their first helical drive washers. These machines [ 123, A100 etc ] had very little room for overfilling, they were 16 gallon tub washers and if you got to about 20 gallons of water it was all going on the floor after that and the socks were getting stuck between the wash basket and outer tub, LOL.

 

All early WH and Bendix FL washers were metered fill.

 

John L.


Post# 970357 , Reply# 13   11/28/2017 at 06:59 (2,312 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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There were also timed-fill Whirlpool & Sears Kenmore washers, too... With one outside knob for the (Hot, Warm & Cold Wash, Cold Rinse) temperature...



-- Dave


Post# 970366 , Reply# 14   11/28/2017 at 08:57 (2,312 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Hotpoint continued to use a time fil and solid tubl until the early 70's when they became rebranded GE's with perforated tubs.

Post# 970369 , Reply# 15   11/28/2017 at 09:23 (2,312 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Les, the last time I saw a Hotpoint solid-tub was a BOL Flat-Top over at Castleberry's in about '73. I should have bought it.

Post# 970370 , Reply# 16   11/28/2017 at 09:46 (2,312 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Yes, my book on appliances says "only the Hotpoint still uses a timed-fill" and it's from the early-'70's, but surely higher-up models would have metered-fill...



-- Dave


Post# 970371 , Reply# 17   11/28/2017 at 09:56 (2,312 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Frigidaire kept using timed-fill on it's GMini and Laundry Centers until the end of the seventies. These washers did have a pressure switch in their outer tub in case something goes wrong with their timers but they were still time-filled.

Post# 970375 , Reply# 18   11/28/2017 at 10:21 (2,312 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Timed Fill WP-KM Washers ????

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I have never seen such a machine, Hi Dave, please give more details.

John L.


Post# 970376 , Reply# 19   11/28/2017 at 10:30 (2,312 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
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Thanks everyone :) Does anyone have pics of these washers- preferably the late and perforated models like Maytag?

Post# 970377 , Reply# 20   11/28/2017 at 10:32 (2,312 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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X2 on the timed fill KM/WPs, I'm interested as well!

Post# 970381 , Reply# 21   11/28/2017 at 11:10 (2,312 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

I have a late 60's solid tub Speed Queen with a time fill. It's the first model with the reversible motor.

Post# 970424 , Reply# 22   11/28/2017 at 17:12 (2,312 days old) by easy (Boston, Mass)        
timed fill whirlpoool

I remember seeing a timed fill Whirlpool for sale in the mid 60's. It was 24" BOL - timer knob only. Single fill hose so you set the temp at the faucet.

A friend's mom had a timed fill Firestone. It was replaced with a BOL Philco solid tub with normal and short cycles. Single fill hose.

The strangest timed fill machine I remember was a Westinghouse from the early 1970's. Two cycle. Normal only gave you a hot wash with a warm rinse. Second cycle was prewash with a warm fill.


Post# 970432 , Reply# 23   11/28/2017 at 17:36 (2,312 days old) by washman (o)        

If you dig back through some old CR issues, I believe they notate whether timed or metered fill.


Post# 970435 , Reply# 24   11/28/2017 at 18:03 (2,312 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I'm not aware of any WPs/KMs of old (classic belt-drive) that were timed fill.  Early design had a float instead of a pressure switch but it wasn't timed.  BOL single/full-level models still had a pressure switch (or float), with the timer having a designated "fill" area but it wasn't timed.  Advancing the timer out of the "fill" usually started agitation (via bypassing the fill circuit) to manually provide a lower water level.

So, if there were some timed-filled models, that's hugely interesting.


Post# 970438 , Reply# 25   11/28/2017 at 18:22 (2,312 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
Attn. DaDoes:

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I thought there were some POD Whirlpool & Sears Kenmore machines that had no water level, but what now what you're saying in this area, now that I've read about what some of you'd said about a pressure-switch, is very different, versus my assumption that these washers (a box-control Whirlpool & some of those Kenmores w/ the dial & knob/knobs on the front of the cabinet come to mind, as well as Kenmores w/ full-width backguards employing such)...



-- Dave


Post# 970449 , Reply# 26   11/28/2017 at 19:03 (2,312 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

These models had a fill portion of the wash cycle. It was not a timed fill, but rather a way of controlling the fill for a less than full tub. The timer only filled in a certain few minutes like from 15 to 10 minutes so if you wanted less than a full tub of water you started the wash in the fill portion of the wash area then, when you had the water level you needed, you pulled out the timer and advanced it to the portion of the wash period without the heavy line over the top of the minute markings and push the dial back in to start agitation. This was also needed to obtain a shorter wash period. There is a little float chamber on the back corner of the outer tub near the top to signal a full tub that stopped filling and started agitation automatically. The Bendix machines had a similar float chamber on the back of the outer tub to signal a full fill. These were before pressure switches were used.

Post# 970463 , Reply# 27   11/28/2017 at 20:09 (2,312 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        

I recall that on my stepmother's Kenmore, circa 1972, at one point we were living in a rental house in an area that had high water pressure. After the tub filled, the machine paused for 10-20 seconds before agitation started. It didn't do that when we lived in a different house with lower water pressure. I always assumed this had something to do with the timer, but I was never clear on exactly what.

Post# 970468 , Reply# 28   11/28/2017 at 20:51 (2,312 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Some KM/WP timers had a "rinse fill" increment. There'd be a pause for the remainder of the increment if the water level was satisfied before it advanced but that's not a timed fill, the pressure switch is still in control of the fill. The timer would advance and stop (until agitation started) if the fill took longer than the rinse fill increment. There wasn't a pause like that for the wash fill far as I ever saw.

Post# 970471 , Reply# 29   11/28/2017 at 21:27 (2,312 days old) by easy (Boston, Mass)        
Time fill Whirlpool

The Whirlpool I mentioned earlier was definitely a time fill machine. It had a fill section on the timer before the wash period began. It was not like other Kenmore/Whirlpool machines with the fill section underlining the 6 to 14 minute section of the normal cycle.

This was a very BOL machine. Perhaps it didn't sell well or none have survived. There was nothing very attractive about its design. I doubt anyone at the time would have considered saving or restoring it.


Post# 970519 , Reply# 30   11/29/2017 at 02:10 (2,311 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Rinse fill increment

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Don't GE FF also have this? When the machine starts filling for rinse the timer runs for another 2 minutes? And if the pressure switch is satisfied you have to wait for the remaining time elapse?

Post# 970535 , Reply# 31   11/29/2017 at 05:57 (2,311 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Anyone know

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What washer this diagram belongs to? I see no pressure switch, so I am assuming timed fill?

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Post# 970540 , Reply# 32   11/29/2017 at 07:13 (2,311 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Replay # 31 Norge

 

Again, all WP and WP built KM automatic washers had metered fill, the ONLY machines that did not have a water level sensing system, also did NOT have an inlet valve and these were filled with a hose and were semi-automatic machines.

 

John L.


Post# 970551 , Reply# 33   11/29/2017 at 07:56 (2,311 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
I owe you now! :)

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Norge- Thanks John! :) I never would have guessed that one. These are solid or perforated tubs? Id hope solid, perforated could overflow easily.

Post# 970590 , Reply# 34   11/29/2017 at 10:40 (2,311 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts)        
Blackstone

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Picture of the stainless tub on Blackstone models 250 and 350, from the 1950s. These machines were timed-fill.

There are drain holes in the bottom of the tub, through which water could drain when the tub was lifted up from the disk. At the end of the wash cycle, the tub would lift; some water would drain through these holes; and then the tub would start spinning. When spinning, the water would climb over the top, passing through the channels around the perimeter of the tub.

I believe the time for filling was 4 minutes. Since these machines had mechanical timers, you could move the dial in either direction for more or less filling time.


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Post# 970622 , Reply# 35   11/29/2017 at 13:59 (2,311 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

We have a whopping 150 pounds of water pressure in my neighborhood.  I had to press the old A200 timed-fill Maytag Highlander into service a while back while I had the A606 apart, and had no problems with it overfilling.  The water inlet is well designed to meter the flow over a wide range of water pressure.


Post# 970625 , Reply# 36   11/29/2017 at 14:18 (2,311 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
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No pressure regulator on the main incomer? Every home I've lived in had on for that reason. 50-75psig is optimal.

Post# 970626 , Reply# 37   11/29/2017 at 14:20 (2,311 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
A200

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How long is the timed fill period?

Post# 970633 , Reply# 38   11/29/2017 at 14:49 (2,311 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

I don't remember how long it took to fill, but I know it took it's time compared to my metered-fill A606.

 

Yes the water pressure is too high, but i rent, and it sure is great for blasting out the rain gutters.


Post# 970660 , Reply# 39   11/29/2017 at 17:23 (2,311 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Maytag Time Fill

There are flow restrictors in the body of the fill valve on both the hot and cold side. The restrictors are in the non-time fill machines too, because they use the same valves.

Post# 970690 , Reply# 40   11/29/2017 at 19:11 (2,311 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

I wish I had a picture of it, but the water inlet on the early 1960s timed-fill Highlander sort of squirts water onto a funnel, and from there it runs into the tub. It's nothing like the common water injector on the machines with a pressure switch. To clarify, this restriction happens after the solenoid valve.



Post# 970692 , Reply# 41   11/29/2017 at 19:21 (2,311 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Fill air gap

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MT used the same fill air gap on all their automatic washers during any given time period.

Post# 970694 , Reply# 42   11/29/2017 at 19:27 (2,311 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

They why don't I have anything like that on my 1972 A606? My A606 has the common "water injector" system, familiar to many of us. The A200 Highlander shoots a stream of restricted water through thin air into a funnel from which it falls into the tub. It will dig the Highlander out of the garage and peel it apart to take a picture this weekend if necessary, that is, unless anyone else has a picture they could share to save me the trouble.

Edit:

Yes, I found something to save me the trouble. See the picture in Post# 336949 in the thread linked below:


CLICK HERE TO GO TO kenwashesmonday's LINK


Post# 970705 , Reply# 43   11/29/2017 at 21:18 (2,311 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Fill Air-Gaps

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Hi Ken, there is nothing special about the fill air-gap on your A200, ALL MTs used this system from 1956-1965, and they had lots of problems with minerals building up on the copper spout and causing water to miss the funnel and causing leaks.  Then MT came out with the other type of FAG that you mentioned and they still had lots of problems with leaks.

 

Funny that WP never had all these problems with the FAGs on their machines.

 

John L.


Post# 970731 , Reply# 44   11/30/2017 at 05:26 (2,310 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

Ah, learn something every day. Thank you for the clarification.

Post# 970734 , Reply# 45   11/30/2017 at 05:50 (2,310 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
I got bored lol

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Yes I know- the pen kept dying- had to get a new one eventually.

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Post# 970755 , Reply# 46   11/30/2017 at 10:06 (2,310 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The flow restrictors are molded things shaped like thick washers that slide into channels in front of the hot and cold water inlets inside the valve body. Take one apart sometime and you will see what I am talking about. The fill inlet is way too late to be restricting the water flow; like grabbing the front of your pants when your bladder sphincter gives way.


Post# 970766 , Reply# 47   11/30/2017 at 10:44 (2,310 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Flow Control Washers

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Are always in the outlet of the inlet valve, there are sometimes flow control washers in the inlet ports to adjust the Hot-Cold ratio but these will not work to control flow for a timed fill machine because if the machine was set to warm the machine would fill too fast.

John L.


Post# 970768 , Reply# 48   11/30/2017 at 10:58 (2,310 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Yes, they fill the at the same rate no matter what temperature is selected.


Post# 970772 , Reply# 49   11/30/2017 at 11:54 (2,310 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Best timed fill

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Is one with a pressure switch or float. If I was a manufacture would never rely solely on the timer for a variety of reasons. For the same reasons DW have a float despite most being timed fill.


In terms of flow restriction I'm more leaning toward John on this one, I would imagine the restrictor right at the edge of the water valve then the hose inlet. Reason being that warm would fill 2x as fast overflowing the washer.


Post# 970773 , Reply# 50   11/30/2017 at 11:54 (2,310 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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As John already stated btw, failed to mention that :)

Post# 970799 , Reply# 51   11/30/2017 at 14:23 (2,310 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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There was no Whirlpool/Kenmore automatic washer made with a time fill system, only Maytag had it in a perforated tub model and that was very brief. Just because it said fill on the dial didn't mean it was a time fill machine. Whirlpool/Kenmore did that quite often on their frog-eye models.

Yes in order to control the flow of water properly it has to be done after the valve and before the fill flume. Turning the pressure down at the inlet hoses generally wont be consistent.

I received this question in an email today that I will answer here...

Do you know which washers (service manuals) in the Ephemera have a timed fill? Here is a good list, not all have service manuals in the library, but most do...

ABC-O-Matic
AMC
Apex
Blackstone before 1959
Corondao
Frigidaire before 1966
Hamilton before 1960
Hotpoint before 1964
Kelvinator before 1967
Launderall
Norge before 1960
Speed Queen until approx 1970
Wizard


Post# 970810 , Reply# 52   11/30/2017 at 15:53 (2,310 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Thank you Robert, you rock! :)

Post# 970854 , Reply# 53   11/30/2017 at 21:17 (2,310 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        
Blackstone

Wasn't that the one where the timer acts mechanically on the valve, and if power goes off during the fill, the valve does not close? I recall there was a thread about that a while ago.

Post# 970888 , Reply# 54   12/1/2017 at 05:29 (2,309 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Yes. Consumer Reports noted that in the ratings of the Blackstones.


Post# 970890 , Reply# 55   12/1/2017 at 06:14 (2,309 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Well, thank you for the insights and info on Whirlpool and Kenmore washers that to my impression, were timed-fill, but turned out to have an entirely different water-filling system, as they were definitely not metered-fill (still no Water Level knob on those, and relegated to the bottom-most-level in their line-ups)...



-- Dave


Post# 970916 , Reply# 56   12/1/2017 at 09:31 (2,309 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Dave, WP/KM models without a water level selector on the panel still had a float (ancient models) or pressure switch hidden in the console ... but it's non-adjustable, provides only a full-fill level.  Think of a KM or WP coin-op machine, same deal.


Post# 970917 , Reply# 57   12/1/2017 at 09:34 (2,309 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts)        

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Yes, the Blackstones would continue to fill if the electricity were unplugged. The water would continue to drain from the outer tub, since the drain hose was at the bottom of the cabinet, not requiring the pump to drain the water.

Actually, we commonly unplugged the machine when it was filling, so we could adjust the spray into the tub without having a spinning tub.

Never heard of a flooding disaster due to loss of electricity.


Post# 971194 , Reply# 58   12/2/2017 at 20:51 (2,308 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Interesting how today's POD contains those Kenmores w/ that pressure-fill... Don't a couple of them or so at least have?



-- Dave


Post# 971225 , Reply# 59   12/3/2017 at 05:25 (2,307 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
POD

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Waahhh, I missed it! Anyone have a pic or link?

Post# 971285 , Reply# 60   12/3/2017 at 13:35 (2,307 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

What do you mean by "pressure fill?" They all had a fill determined by the pressure on an air dome that tripped the water level switch to stop filling and begin agitation. If there was no water level selector switch, it only filled with the full amount of water. I believe that even the most basic of the machines would agitate dry at the 2 minute mark so if you wanted to use less than a full tub of water, you might be able to set the timer at the 2 minute mark and keep resetting it each time it went into drain to wash a lower than full load. I know that some basic WP machines even into the early 60s, maybe, had a portion of the wash cycle that did not allow fill and the timers could be moved to that area to wash with less than a full tub of water. I did not look at these KM machines' dials closely enough to see if they had the same feature.

Post# 971289 , Reply# 61   12/3/2017 at 13:51 (2,307 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Dry agitate

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All modern DDs have a 2 minute portion before the spin in the normal cycle with dry agitate. I think this is so you can test agitation without filling the machine- a neat idea (for service) I credit whirlpool with.

Post# 971293 , Reply# 62   12/3/2017 at 14:07 (2,307 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
Creating confusion, am I? Or confused, I am!

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OK, did I use the wrong terminology? I only noticed control over water temperature... And the standard timer dial, but no water level on some of those machines... So whatever the filling method on some of those basic machines (that is not timed fill, or whatever the "other" method of dill) they had...



-- Dave


Post# 971294 , Reply# 63   12/3/2017 at 14:21 (2,307 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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It's the same method as machines that have a water level control on the console ... a switch that responds to air pressure that increases inside a small hose as the water level in the tub rises.  The difference being that the switch is hidden inside the console and is not adjustable for choice of high/medium/low or variable fill levels.

A non-adjustable pressure switch could be swapped into a model with adjustable levels ... or an adjustable switch could be swapped into a machine without (drill a hole in the console).  The timer doesn't have to change.


Post# 971300 , Reply# 64   12/3/2017 at 14:58 (2,307 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
None adjustable pressure switch

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Here is an example on a Galaxy (scroll through the pics):



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Post# 972420 , Reply# 65   12/8/2017 at 18:35 (2,302 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Drew up a high end model, wiring diagram to follow:

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