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Post# 970185   11/27/2017 at 01:02 (353 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)        

I wonder what ol' Fred would think of the machines wearing his name today...

And how so many of us wish we could pull one of those washers off the line and take it home today!

Post# 970194 , Reply# 1   11/27/2017 at 03:49 (353 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Spinning in his grave.  Somewhere between 100 and 420 rpm, depending when the belt was last changed.

Post# 970198 , Reply# 2   11/27/2017 at 05:12 (353 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        

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Arbilab, that's good

Post# 970200 , Reply# 3   11/27/2017 at 05:27 (353 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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He would have to be running the company at what would probably be TWO-HUNDRED-YEARS-OLD, to this day, for anything to be run right, bringing the Center-Dial back, and all!

And what great, still properly-running machines you'd have--not always needing repairs they'd be, like in those days of old...

-- Dave

Post# 970206 , Reply# 4   11/27/2017 at 06:40 (353 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

And still refusing to look into the future and modernize the line. Maytag and Hobart were a lot alike with having to be dragged into improving their lines. They chose instead to trade on reputation, Maytag on their wringer machines and Hobart on commercial machines, neither of which was pertinent to the domestic product that they were currently making.


Hobart completely discounted the need for heating the wash water in their dishwashers because they were accustomed to institutional dishwashing where the small machines in lunch counters and the like were run frequently enough that once heated up, they stayed how and where health codes required 180F water for the rinse which helped keep the machine hot. If you ever studied trays of dishes going into the machine, they were well rinsed before they went in or had fresh food that had not dried on them. Home machines were generally run once a day or after each meal, but without carryover heat from previous loads to keep the water from cooling. The 14 series was out of date and way behind state of the art when introduced, especially compared to the Whirlpool wash arm machine of the same time.


Maytag put that big high-finned Gyrator into a very narrow tub in the automatics where it could not create the water currents that washed well in the wringer machines' wide tubs. Maytag introduced and kept the Wash and Wear/Perma Press Cycle available ONLY on the TOL model with the very restrictive push button timer until the advent of the 06 series, many years after other washer brands were offering a Wash and Wear cycle in models further down the line.  They increased the size of the tub, barely, years after other brands were offering larger capacity tubs, and then only vertically, not width-wise which is where Maytag really needed to enlarge their tubs to improve turnover.


I think Fred and Fred Jr. were quite satisfied to rest on their machines' reputations and make bank that women whose mothers and grandmothers had gotten good service out of their Maytag wringer washers would choose to buy a Maytag automatic just because. They did not expect better performance because they did not know of better performance and don't forget the two testing magazines' love affair with Maytag, again carried forward from the days of the wringer machines.  When the Freds should have turned over in their graves was when the management of their company chose to acquire those raggedy ass POS lines to get large capacity washers and those sad-ass stoves and refrigerators. I don't know how many hinges for oven doors I picked up for the business and those Admiral side-by-side refrigerators were so cheaply built that it was almost impossible to get the refrigerator and freezer doors to line up. Those three lines and the lack of customer support for the problems owners had with the Maytag front loader which they advertised as thought they had invented the front loader and the problems they had which would make you think they were, indeed, the first front loaders, caused people to vow they would never buy a Maytag again. 

Post# 970213 , Reply# 5   11/27/2017 at 08:27 (353 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Fred's grand kids

are making blue cheese, not laundry machines, that answers my question.

I wonder what's happened to Bruce?

Post# 970235 , Reply# 6   11/27/2017 at 10:24 (352 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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If you only knew what I would give for an in-box center dial. Those are my favorite top loaders by far. Its those that made me interested in washers in the first place.

Post# 970409 , Reply# 7   11/28/2017 at 15:34 (351 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

Bruce Lucenta was going off on holiday, so I was told, although he'd warned the forum some months ago that his work patterns were changing and would preclude his starting POD threads henceforth. However, he has now been banned for the forum for repeated offences, apparently relating to his becoming an evangelical born-again Christian...

Post# 970474 , Reply# 8   11/28/2017 at 21:39 (351 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0700 CDT.))        
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I think he would be pleased with the new TL. He would also be pissed off by some of the cheap junk that bore his name prior to Whirlpool rescuing and making the brand High end.

As far as Bruce, good riddance, what an a--hole.

Post# 970522 , Reply# 9   11/29/2017 at 02:34 (351 days old) by HiLoVane (Columbus OH)        
Maytag cheese

As I understand it, a different branch of the Maytag family are the cheese makers.
In case anyone was unaware, the entire Maytsg family were once dairy farmers,
long before they got into the washing machine business.

I've had some of their bleu cheeses....they are very, very good. Some restaurants
serve them either as part of salads; as appetizers; or as steak toppings.

And, no; they don't market their cheeses as:
"Highlander" a popular-priced bleu cheese.
"Neptune" bleu cheese, laced with sea salt.
"Halo-of-Heat" bleu cheese laced with jalapeņo.

Post# 970531 , Reply# 10   11/29/2017 at 05:46 (351 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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I find it laughable how the purchase of cheap junk for making Kitchen Appliances & attempts at larger capacity Laundry Appliances diminished Maytag's quality, rather than improved the quality of the merger, the later Maytag's firm had done--surely THAT is not the way Fred would have ever intended!

"Stream Of Heat" Cheese: Hot Sauce Cheese in a Tube...

-- Dave

Post# 970533 , Reply# 11   11/29/2017 at 05:54 (351 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The limestone caves in that part of Iowa proved to be the perfect place, temperature and moisture wise to age the cheese.

Post# 971054 , Reply# 12   12/2/2017 at 01:36 (348 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I thought that the Maytag folks were also making and selling farm equipment before the appliances.

Post# 971072 , Reply# 13   12/2/2017 at 05:42 (348 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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You are correct Rex.  I know they made a feeder for threshing machines.

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