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Worst Bleach EVER!
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Post# 972165   12/7/2017 at 15:11 (348 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I sent someone to the store for me with a list. One of the items was Kroger brand chlorine bleach (I think it's called home sense or something like that) and they come back with this stuff and it's made by Kroger, but it's even cheaper than their regular store brand. Their regular store brand is like Clorox, but this stuff is the most watered down bleach I've EVER seen in my life. Horrible.

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Post# 972183 , Reply# 1   12/7/2017 at 16:47 (348 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I find that if you send someone to the store and you have some specific item and brand in mind, you specify the brand on the lsit. 

Post# 972184 , Reply# 2   12/7/2017 at 16:52 (348 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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yeah, any brand with less than 2% sodium hypochlorite doesn't have to label the percentage.....which in this case, probably has less than that.....

possibly a full jug of water, and an eye dropper of chemical....

Post# 972188 , Reply# 3   12/7/2017 at 17:03 (348 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Which is how you turn contaminated water into drinkable water. 1 drop of bleach and 1 drop of iodine per gallon of water.

Post# 972216 , Reply# 4   12/7/2017 at 20:09 (348 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan)        

That's one drop of bleach >6% sodium hypochlorite; not one drop of this stuff. That said, it's just a math problem if the % is listed.

Post# 972223 , Reply# 5   12/7/2017 at 20:24 (348 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Always look for an EPA registration number

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That is by far best indicator one is getting LCB that is proper strength IMHO, especially if wanting it for disinfecting, mold/mildew issues, etc...

Even Clorox now has many versions that are not EPA registered. Reason is simple; makers are cheapening things down by using less active ingredients.

This also applies to pine based cleaners/disinfectants. Without an EPA number the stuff does not contain enough pine oil to have germ killing properties. This no matter how strong scent.

Lysol is another.... Years ago out of concerns over toxicity of phenol/carbolic makers removed and or lowered (cannot recall which) the content. Again as such certain bottles of that familiar brown liquid are not EPA registered disinfectants.

Post# 972236 , Reply# 6   12/7/2017 at 21:28 (348 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I didn't realize Kroger

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had two different store brands of bleach - the one I usually get is home sense. So on the list I put Kroger brand bleach 1/2 gallon - the home sense Kroger brand is full on bleach that disinfects kills cold/flu virus. Had I known Kroger had two different store brands I would have specified. I think I'll just pour this in the toilets or something daily to get rid of it faster.

Post# 972243 , Reply# 7   12/7/2017 at 21:58 (348 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        
Multiple Store Brands

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Our big local grocery chain, Hy-Vee, is doing the same thing.  A "That's Smart" store brand for the cheapest options.  Probably doing it to compete with the dollar chains.


No lack of choices for anything in 2017...

Post# 972271 , Reply# 8   12/8/2017 at 00:08 (348 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Yeah, I wanted the real deal and looked at a few stores.  I ended up buying (one of) Safeway's house brands.  It had more of the active ingredient than even Clorox.  Something like 8 or 9%.

Post# 972274 , Reply# 9   12/8/2017 at 00:50 (348 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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I've noticed the different levels of Kroger bleach at Fred Meyer (owned by Kroger) long before now. I've noticed multiple levels of store brand products in other areas--even tomato sauce--at Fred Meyer.


In any case, I always look for a EPA number. But the primary reason I buy bleach is sanitizing.

Post# 972279 , Reply# 10   12/8/2017 at 02:35 (348 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
When you get right down to things

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For whitening and sale removal in laundry a very aggressive LCB isn't really necessary. So the non-EPA disinfectant versions are probably fine. Lord knows Clorox and others have come out with all sorts of "gentle", fragranced, and other types of chlorine bleaches that are meant to be textile friendly, and or counter the common perception of the stuff as very strong on fabrics.

It also doesn't help there has been a hate in come quarters for some time now against chlorine bleach. Claims the fumes or whatever cause cancer and so forth. Indeed for household disinfecting and cleaning there are scores of products that do the job and pack less of a whiff.

Post# 972286 , Reply# 11   12/8/2017 at 04:53 (348 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

Jim-- I was going to post the same thing about HyVee. I buy quite a few HyVee-branded products, but am very careful about the super-budget That's Smart line. Some items appear less expensive until you realize they're downsized: 12-oz. package of frozen vegetables rather than 16-ozs., for instance. Or it tastes awful---some soups and ketchup come to mind.

Back to bleach: I always buy regular Clorox, which is still labeled for use in disinfecting.

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Post# 972287 , Reply# 12   12/8/2017 at 04:57 (348 days old) by johnrk (BP TX)        

Frigilux--I do, too. I don't use much bleach, so the difference in price between various brands doesn't influence me.

It's 40F and wet down here in the Houston area where I live, and I hear the central heat going in my home. I've flown into MSP many times for meetings and I know that's not cold at all to you all, but it sure is down here. We're projected to get down to 30F tonight, you'd think a blizzard was coming...

Post# 972289 , Reply# 13   12/8/2017 at 05:28 (348 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

I can imagine 30-45 degrees must feel like a freeze-out in Houston. It was 8 degrees yesterday morning so I switched from an unlined windbreaker to a slightly heavier jacket, LOL. Even threw a pair of gloves in the briefcase!

And yes; I agree Clorox is worth the splurge.

Post# 972311 , Reply# 14   12/8/2017 at 08:22 (348 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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would the store brand have a higher active ingredient than regular Clorox? I don't use much either. This is why I only get a half gallon at a time because I know it expires. It takes me a while to go through a half gallon. Maybe I'll just start buying regular Clorox from now on.

Post# 972313 , Reply# 15   12/8/2017 at 08:24 (348 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

Mark-- Think I recall you mentioning that you add a little bleach to each dishwasher load. How much do you add and does it go directly into the bottom of the tub for the first fill or do you add it later in the cycle?

Post# 972329 , Reply# 16   12/8/2017 at 09:28 (347 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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oddly enough you can find percentages as high as 12%.....

most are 4, 6, 8.....from Reg to Ultra and Ultra2...

some are higher or lower based on what their labeled, such as deck/house cleaner, light cleaning....

if you want something along the MEGA lines of cleaning/disinfecting.....pool chlorine if super powerful....

most times, 1/4 cup added to the dishwasher is plenty.....I add it during the main wash...

Post# 972357 , Reply# 17   12/8/2017 at 11:02 (347 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
It defeats it's own purpose

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Chlorine bleach will kill enzymes. So if added to a dishwasher load that has been dosed with modern detergents based upon that formula, to an extent you've decreased some of that cleaning power.

OTOH chlorine bleach does attack protein, which is one of the reasons why it was included in automatic dishwasher detergents of old.

Post# 972389 , Reply# 18   12/8/2017 at 14:43 (347 days old) by Gyrafoam (Roanoke, VA)        

Regular Clorox is the only bleach that is ph balanced for the water in the areas it is sold in.
I have never found a LCB product as consistently reliable and effective as Clorox.
I don't even look at the other stuff.

Post# 972396 , Reply# 19   12/8/2017 at 15:51 (347 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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The amount I put is about a shot glass. Probably the same amount my Duet front load bleach dispenser holds, which isn't much. It doesn't take much bleach for anything, if you have the good stuff. You would think it would cause the enzymes not to work. My only guess is that since I do it at the start of the cycle, it's diluted by the first fill, then drained. By the time the main wash starts, most of it's gone and the finish powerball drops out. I don't pre-rinse and I haven't noticed the enzymes not working because of this. But the dishwasher has a much more clean smell at the end than if just using detergent alone. It also helps stains that need to be bleached.

Post# 972435 , Reply# 20   12/8/2017 at 20:55 (347 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
I agree on bleach and dishwashers - about 20 years ago, I

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started throwing a bleach tablet in the pre-wash/first wash cycle. It makes a gigantic difference and is gone before the enzymatic cleaners are dispensed for the second wash.

And, Laundress, I agree - this hysteria about chlorine bleach is ridiculous.

Post# 972437 , Reply# 21   12/8/2017 at 21:17 (347 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

Have been using Cloralen Aromas with great results. They come in different "flavors." LOL.
Hope the gov. doesn't outlaw bleach. I've read the same hysteria too.

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