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Post# 976896   1/4/2018 at 20:19 (528 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

I have a Top Load Whirlpool Cabrio, bought it about 1 year and 4 months ago.
It's bad at cleaning, and to get it to at least thoroughly wet my stuff I have to do some crazy stuff that is very tedious and wastes a bunch of water. I have to soak the dirty clothes, drain and waste all the water, then start over so the machine will weigh the load heavier and give me more water. And then it doesn't even clean very well, but at least everything gets wet.

I live in a rural place.

I have had warranty repair guys over, one guy even replaced a part, but I couldn't tell that it did anything.

6 months ago or so I hired an appliance repair guy to look at my machine. He was real nice, didn't charge me a consultation fee because he said he couldn't find anything wrong with my machine, and we talked about the Energy Star subsidiaries and environmental government regulations. He recommended Speed Queen and said he had a refurbished Admiral he could sell me (which is very tempting, but I really want to be able to clean a King Comforter in the comfort of my home)

I can't recoup any of the money I paid for this machine, and I've been budgeting- I have $1200 to spend on a new washer.

There are so many washing machines out there, it's mind boggling, and you're stuck with the one you choose. Recently I went shopping and I asked every salesman at the retail stores if I didn't like the performance of the machine could I try something different till I find something that cleans. The answer was 'NO' every time.

So yesterday I started reading up on SQ real good, because of the nice repair guys recommendation. 1) Its capacity wont handle a King Comforter. 2) Everybody is poo-pooing the new 2018 model.

Now, I am prepared to give up the dream of washing a King comforter. At this point I just want something that cleans and to not waste all my money.

Please help me!!

Post# 976911 , Reply# 1   1/4/2018 at 21:33 (528 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp, Michigan)        

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Despite my username, I say throw the 2018 SQ, instead get the Maytag Commercial model MVWP575GW, it will actually clean far better than a Cabrio or the new Speed Queen.

If you don't care about buying used, I recommend looking at your local used appliance stores or on Craigslist and finding either an older top of the line Whirlpool or Kenmore direct-drive based washer. They are fine washers, are reliable and if anything breaks they are one of the most serviceable machines ever made. And if it really falls apart you have only lost <$200. You could also look at older Maytag Dependable Care models, too.

Post# 976914 , Reply# 2   1/4/2018 at 21:58 (528 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

The only type of machine that will effectively wash a king comforter is a front loader.

I like the new lg fl, I own the wm3770 and it does well with my king bedding.

No top loader will wash a king comforter well. Nothing.

Post# 976915 , Reply# 3   1/4/2018 at 22:00 (528 days old) by RP2813 (Too many people know the way)        

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You would have to go with a front loader to wash a king size comforter, and since it seems you've done a good amount of research, you know front loaders have much longer cycles than traditional top loaders.


I agree that the commercial Maytag is superior to the 2018 Speed Queen top loader (what isn't?), and it's cheaper too.  It seems like a no-brainer to me.

Post# 976920 , Reply# 4   1/4/2018 at 22:36 (528 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

Get a LG WM3770 with turbo wash, or a Maytag Maxima.

Post# 976922 , Reply# 5   1/4/2018 at 22:55 (528 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

I'm so over the consumerist-buy-new mindset. If I can find something old and reliable I will consider it. I was looking through my local FaceBook Marketplace, but you know, I don't know what all these models are. I wouldn't mind buying something and then paying the nice locally owned appliance repair people I had over to my home to refurbish it. They are good people, I'd love to give them my money.
However, I don't know if I want to spend the time hunting down a good old timer model. That's a lot of work and time.

I've been watching Lorainfurniture's SQ videos in that other thread. I understand the 2018 models are disappointing but I'd take that performance over what I have now. (Just being positive, I do not have my heart set on a specific brand.)

I have no preference, FL or TL.

I'll check out those maytags and LG. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

My head and heart still need to have a talk about being able to wash a King Comforter.
It's nice not having to go to the ghetto to use a laundromat that smells like other people's private bits and cheap laundry musk.
Plus, I have bad memories from when I was younger and didn't own a washing machine... I learned real quick not to leave washing laundry unattended, there are disgusting thieves out there.

Wanna know how I clean my King Comforter in my Cabrio now? Pause when the water is high, grab a broom stick and churn it like butter. :D

Post# 976927 , Reply# 6   1/5/2018 at 00:06 (528 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        

LG has generally worked out their issues, so, I could only recomend them. Even if they don't last decades, they don't cost so much that they'd have to.

Post# 976952 , Reply# 7   1/5/2018 at 08:44 (527 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
Why do so many people have king-size comforters?

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It seems to me a king size bed is over size even for 2 people. Would it be possible to have 2 KS blankets instead? If you have to wash king size, you will have to get a front loader and I recommend a Whirlpool Duet.

Post# 976966 , Reply# 8   1/5/2018 at 10:45 (527 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

The maytag MVWP575GW has awesome reviews and videos!
Could I get away with "butter churning" the King Comforter in that tub? 3.5 usable cu ft. The batting in my comforter isn't thick and I wouldn't mind doing that once a month if the machine cleans all the other things well.

Not gonna lie, if I decided to get a FL today, I'd probably go with the LG WM3770 because I'm still holding a grudge against whirlpool and all the brands they make. They should be embarrassed about the performance of this Cabrio- it's really bad.

Post# 976967 , Reply# 9   1/5/2018 at 10:51 (527 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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don't let them fool you.....

you can return ANY machine you purchased if you don't like its performance....

been there, done that several times.....Sears, Lowes, HomeDepot......hell, I have taken in a screwdriver and opened the machine up right there on the sales floor....

most salesmen know next to nothing of what their selling.....if you don't get satisfaction, call for a department or store manager.....if you don't get anywhere with them, write down their name and ask for the corporate number......

I have king beds, preference to a quilt versus a puffy comforter.....I can't see spending 1500.00+ on a machine to wash one item....I do get puzzled over that one....seems like buying huge tires before I buy the truck they fit on...

as mentioned.....any TLer WILL NOT fit and wash a king comforter properly...

there is the investment into a SQ Front will most likely be the last machine you will ever have to buy...

we just happen to be a bad time period, with the purchase of just about anything today, its hit or miss on a good quality, long lasting machine....

Post# 976969 , Reply# 10   1/5/2018 at 11:07 (527 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Your best bet is to

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Go with a well serviced, limited guarantee Maytag or TOL Whirlpool from the days before temperatures and water levels were dumbed down. In other words, a washer which is not EnergyStar.

As for the King Size Comforter - I share a bed with at least one dog, one cat (frequently more) and a husband who will steal the covers off and under from a 110lb pit-bull without a moments hesitation. I fully understand the love of a King Size anything for the bed.

But - that should not be the decisive element in buying a washer. But a duvet cover or make one for it and then you can wash the cover every week or more often. The comforter wasn't meant to be washed all that often anyway, this will extend it's life. When it does have to be washed, a commercial laundry specializing in such bedding will do a much better job and be easier on it than any washer practical for home use.

That's how I do it in the most empty state in the Union - Wyoming.

Post# 976976 , Reply# 11   1/5/2018 at 11:47 (527 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I agree with others

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ditch the comforter and get a bedspread on Amazon. Then get the machine you want. Whirlpool isn't bad. It's just that a lot of people hate the TL wash plate HE washers, others love them.

Post# 976980 , Reply# 12   1/5/2018 at 12:13 (527 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

Manufactures seem to boast the size of tubs found on TL's, when you can probably only use half of that size comfortably.

I know when we had our Inglis DD TL, we tried to wash our king size comforter, no rollover whatsoever. It just sat there and soaked basically...but so does the effect not change with still many new larger TL's. The waters there, the tub size is there, but now the agitation is too weak with a tub full of that much water, the comforter also just still floats.

Our Whirlpool Duet WFW72HEDW we owned at our previous house never had any parts replaced and was clocking in at 3 years old when we moved. Hands down best washer I ever used or owned.

Now one thing for sure that I wish my Duet had was a re-circulation spray like LG offers with turbowash on their front loaders. It would really help saturate bulky items like a comforter, and on normal loads have a consistent concentrated soupy solution hit the clothes, helping to wash clothes faster. Sometimes I just don't get why more manufactures don't do this. Maytag and WP FL's do not offer any sort of recirc. pump.

This model is the WM3570 which is the predecessor to the WM3770.



Maytag Maxima MHW5500

Bedding Cycle

Post# 976983 , Reply# 13   1/5/2018 at 13:25 (527 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

I just took some measurements, I don't have the room for FL door clearance.

I'd have to gut the laundry room and move counters and water hook ups.

Post# 976987 , Reply# 14   1/5/2018 at 14:00 (527 days old) by RP2813 (Too many people know the way)        
Front Loader Footprint

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I had the same problem when we moved.   We included our Whirlpool Duet pair in the sale of our previous home because the laundry room where we live now wouldn't accommodate anything larger than traditional standard size machines.


At that time (2008) the full sized Frigidaire Affinity front load washer and companion dryer had the same footprint as standard machines, so that's what we got.  There are some things about the washer that annoy me, but it's been nine years and all I've had to replace is the pump, just about a month ago, and like all front loaders, it's superior at cleaning when compared to a top loader.   At 3.5 cf capacity, all of which is usable, it can handle everything I put in it.  That includes a puffy king size mattress pad, but I usually add extra water for that (I have a pull-out faucet on the adjacent laundry sink that facilitates this).  Whether the Frigidaire front loaders still have that same footprint, I don't know, but it's worth investigating.


I think a duvet/comforter cover is the answer for you.  Just wash that instead of the comforter itself.  This will afford you a wider range of choices for your next machine. 



Post# 976988 , Reply# 15   1/5/2018 at 14:00 (527 days old) by ea56 (Sonoma Co.,CA)        

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I had a 2010 Cabrio that I was very unhappy with too. And Iíve had a kingsize down comforter that is almost 35 years old now and Iíve managed to wash it in every washing machine Iíve ever owned. Some did a better job than others, but never the less I have always been able to wash this comforter and other king size bedding with no problem. Yes, in a TL there isnít alot of turn over, but then just how dirty is a comforter really getting anyway, unless you have someone that is having number two accidents on the comforter just about any washer that is large enough to hold the comforter and get it thouroughly saturated, rinsed and spun out will do an adequete job. Also, as mentioned by Panthera, use a duvet cover, and you will almost never have to actually launder the comforter.

I also have the same limitaitons as you regarding the depth of my laundry closet, the only FL that will fit in my closet is either an LG or a SQ. I tried the LG, didnít like it.

In Dec. 2016 I bought a Maytag Centennial MVWC415EW from Lowes. The capacity is 3.6 cu ft. and this washer has been completely trouble free. It washes anything I put in it flawlessly, never unbalances is fairly quick, most all loads I wash with hot water on heavy soil level and they are done in 50-55 mins. And our kingsize comforter and bedspreads are no problem, I wash them on the Bulky cycle and they come out beautifully. So, I think that you would probably very happy with the new Maytag Commercial machine that has received extensive coverage here on AW. And the hot water is really hot, not lukewarm.

And like Martin said, if you are really unhappy with any new appliance, any store will take it back in exchange as long as you donít wait too long. Salesman will tell you otherwise, but when push comes to shove most stores would rather have a satisfied customer, that will return to THEIR store for future appliance purchases. If they refuse to take back a purchase that the customer is dissatisfied with, its pretty much a foregone conclusion that this dissatisfied customer will make their next large purchase elsewhere and they know it. The key is to be reasonable and polite, these two attributes will go along way getting you what you want.

So good luck to you with your new washer purchase.

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Post# 976990 , Reply# 16   1/5/2018 at 14:04 (527 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

@washerdude, that 1st video of the Cabrio, that's how all my loads perform in the machine, not just a comforter. There is no agitation at the top.

Before I figured out how to trick the machine into giving me more water, I often pulled items out, after the cycle was done, that had never been touched by water.

The last straw to break the camel's back. Just a couple weeks ago I pulled out a place mat that had a thin 1/2" square smear of refried bean paste still on it after the cycle was done, and after I had done the whole water dance. I took it over to the sink and it washed off in less than 2 seconds.

Post# 976994 , Reply# 17   1/5/2018 at 15:09 (527 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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oddly enough, most washing instructions for a comforter are gentle wash and soak....basically its what these machines do.....although not exactly recommended to wash one in these machines....

going by your information, guessing you have a Regular size Cabrio(belt drive), as there is also a Cabrio XL(direct drive) version as well...

but going by the age of your machine, does it not have the Deep Water Wash feature?

I have both...2010 models...first rule, the NORMAL cycle uses the least amount of water on either for about all mini loads only....

on the Regular version, found two ways of making it function better......before the load starts, take a gallon of water and saturate the clothing, the machine thinks it weighs more, and of course adds more water( mixing your detergent into this water has an added benefit of presoaking the clothes before the washing starts)......or I wait until the filling stops, and pour in 3 to 5 gallons more water with a bucket....

on the XL version, Normal for mini loads, Towel/Colors for medium loads, and Sheets for a large loads.....

one feature the XL offers is a waterfall sprinkler to saturate the load as well during wash and rinse...

removing the restrictor in the water valve allowed for a faster water flow and fill...mainly just the HOT side, as it allowed a warmer temp....but basically all I ever did get was a 10 degree drop in water temp, but my water heater is set at 160....10 degrees is not much of a drop....

thanks goes out to our own JoeyPete for the vid....but this is his machine, which he made a video almost 3 years ago....on the Deep Wash cycle....plenty of water has been added.....

Post# 977000 , Reply# 18   1/5/2018 at 16:22 (527 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

I included a picture of my Cabrio's model and serial number. I hope it uploads.

I keep my machine on bulky setting, deep setting, and presoak.
I start off presoaking every load, set a timer for 10 minutes and then start over so it will weigh the load heavier.

I should give some credit, the machine do better with tiny loads.

After watching your video:
My machine does not give that much water without forcing it to give me more water.

I washed a small load of mixed stuff this morning and took a picture mid cycle. Settings: mixed, normal, no presoaking/restart business.

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Post# 977011 , Reply# 19   1/5/2018 at 17:39 (527 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

Also, a major reason I didn't fight harder to return the Cabrio for another, I had that lingering doubt that I wasn't using the machine right. One of the warranty guys even grilled me about it, and when I told him what I did to get extra water he told me I wasn't supposed to do that, that the machine was developed to clean with less water, blah, blah, blah... and I believed him!

1) Make a bad product.
2) Victim shame the buyer.
3) Make money.

Anyways, I don't want to talk about the Cabrio anymore. I'm not stupid, this machine sucks.

So I called all the corporate stores, Lowes, HomeDepot, Best Buy, and only a Sears Home Store can get the Maytag MVWP575GW for me- they have to order it. $1002.62 after tax, customer pick-up. Additional $80 to deliver to my home, install, and carry away existing machine.


Online store that has all the proper internet cred, it's legit. (not sure if it's okay to plug websites on this forum)
$759 delivered to my house. And the nice appliance repair people will come take my old machine away for free.

Post# 977017 , Reply# 20   1/5/2018 at 18:08 (527 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp, Michigan)        

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Don't forget to check your independent appliance dealers! They sell and likely service the machines too, if something does go wrong.

Post# 977025 , Reply# 21   1/5/2018 at 19:02 (527 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey)        
$759 delivered to my house

Thats not a bad price delivered (but not installed). The savings could pay for a lot of laundromat washes for the King comforter.

Doubtful you could find a local dealer to match that, they'd probably have to order it as well., but worth a try.

Try to use a credit card for the online purchase so if any hassles arise a dispute could be opened with the CC issuer.

Post# 977034 , Reply# 22   1/5/2018 at 19:52 (527 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
Of course they will haul away your old machine

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They are going to clean it up and sell it for a good price.

I had q neighbour have their old top loader "hauled away". A couple of weeks later they were back at the appliance store, and their old washer was in the used section for $325.

Post# 977035 , Reply# 23   1/5/2018 at 20:01 (527 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

One privately owned appliance dealer who mostly deals with contractors and not end users. They don't carry whirlpool brands and tried to sell me a 2018 GE that hadn't even arrived in the store yet. It looked just like my Cabrio, plate bottom TL, and is wifi enabled. I was not amused.

Next choice is Sears Home Store. They are an independently owned franchise and want 25% more, and $10 of the $80 total is what they charge to haul off my machine.

Post# 977056 , Reply# 24   1/5/2018 at 22:06 (527 days old) by RP2813 (Too many people know the way)        

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Wi-fi enabled?




That is just priceless!  Too bad they're serious.

Post# 977060 , Reply# 25   1/5/2018 at 22:19 (527 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey)        
It's nice not having to go to the ghetto to use a laundr

Any cleaners in the area to have the king comforter washed and pressed?

Post# 977130 , Reply# 26   1/6/2018 at 10:46 (526 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

There is a local dry-cleaner. I just called them and they said $36.99 to wash a King Comforter, and then she mentioned it takes 1 to 2-weeks to clean it. That seems weird, I didn't ask why it takes that long.

Post# 977134 , Reply# 27   1/6/2018 at 11:21 (526 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

I really love my comforter's fabric. The pattern & colors are perfect for my bedroom. It only cost about $100 and came with 2 shams.

I'm seriously thinking about ripping the seems out, getting new batting, then renting a long arm quilter, and I could do the binding myself- would take me about a week. Renting a long arm quilter for a King Size would probably be around $300.

Quilting is now a luxury hobby, sad.

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Post# 977136 , Reply# 28   1/6/2018 at 11:30 (526 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Melissa, very pretty. 

Post# 977160 , Reply# 29   1/6/2018 at 15:04 (526 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
1 to 2-weeks to clean it. That seems weird, I didn't ask

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Maybe because it might occupy all of the dry cleaning machine and they have to take have a chance to not have to dry clean anything else. I say go with the duvet cover you can wash frequently. I guess you don't have space for 2 washers, the Maytag and a front loader? Another thing you might do is wash an empty load at the laundromat to clean out the machine and then wash the comforter but who wants to spend time in the ghetto laundromat?

Post# 977187 , Reply# 30   1/6/2018 at 18:38 (526 days old) by washyume (Louisiana)        

Before I got this Cabrio I had a Roper. It worked fine, but I was moving to a new home and wanted all the new things!! I learned my lesson.

Anyways, that Roper couldn't hold a Queen comforter so I have used a laundromat in the recent past. When I said the laundromats smelled like other people's private bits and cheap laundry musk, I wasn't talking about their machines making my stuff stink, I was just talking about the smell of the building in general.

I'd wash the comforter at a laundromat, when done stick it in a garbage bag wet, and dry it at home.

No, I do not have room for two washers. I don't even really like having 2 machines taking up space, I wish the engineers would hurry up and figure out how to make a washer and dryer all-in-one machine.

But things take a while to evolve I guess. It's been 50 years since we landed on the moon and our engineers haven't figured out anything better than rocket propulsion yet. Speaking of, how long ago was it that SpaceX released the news that they have a rocket more powerful than the Saturn V? I need to go read up on that.

Post# 977191 , Reply# 31   1/6/2018 at 19:12 (526 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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washyume:† I don't even really like having 2 machines taking up space, I wish the engineers would hurry up and figure out how to make a washer and dryer all-in-one machine.
That was done in the 1950s.† All the major manufacturers had them in the 1950s and 1960s, and a couple went into the early 1970s.† There are a couple washer/dryer combination machines on the market now but they're of limited capacity.

Post# 977650 , Reply# 32   1/9/2018 at 14:55 (523 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

Miele is the only sensible option now. Decent capacity, solid quality, excellent long-term durability. Forget top loaders of any description.

Post# 977747 , Reply# 33   1/10/2018 at 09:35 (522 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
I disagree absolutely.

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Whilst Miele in Europe is about as good as it gets, North American Miele has suffered from various fatal corporate defects through the years.

Worst of all, their decision (in complete contrast to European Miele) to throw away all parts and technical specifications (including repair data) for anything older than 10 years.

Second, their 'it will take three months to get the part' approach (and, yes, dahlinks, twice I brought parts over from Germany for fellow members after they were told just that and in both cases I picked the parts up at Miele's Showroom on Sonnenstr. in Munich).

Finally, As many UK members all-too-frequently point out here, the UK market is totally and completely removed from both Europe as well as the rest of the world. Toploaders in the UK may be worthless, but elsewhere, this does not hold. 

Post# 977913 , Reply# 34   1/11/2018 at 17:55 (521 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

The thing is, a top loader won't wash a comforter well. The HE washplate types may use loads of water, but they won't roll over large bulky items, so they don't really get washed. Traditional agitator machines are similarly stumped by big bulky items, and are increasingly rare. FL is the way forward, but SQ machines have significant reliability issues (despite the propaganda) and lack heaters. I'm dismayed to hear Miele USA discarded all parts for over-10-year-old machines - how did they get away with that when it's so contrary to the policy of the parent company?

The only alternative, then, would appear to be buying a FL from either BSH or LG, Electrolux or Whirlpool...

Post# 977929 , Reply# 35   1/11/2018 at 21:05 (521 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        
A risky move

This GE contains an agitator and a 4.5CF capacity. Seems to have good rollover...but again i'm not sure how this thing would perform with a large item.

Post# 977945 , Reply# 36   1/12/2018 at 00:22 (521 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Good Lord, I hate the sounds the new top load washers make.  The NEW coin-op Maytags I used in New Orleans made that same sound.

Post# 977951 , Reply# 37   1/12/2018 at 01:15 (521 days old) by RP2813 (Too many people know the way)        

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That corkscrew looks like it's doing absolutely nothing.  And the machine sounds like it's on its last legs instead of brand new.

Post# 977999 , Reply# 38   1/12/2018 at 11:06 (520 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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I'm actually impressed with this machine.
Not sure about it's longevity the land of Haier/GE.

That corkscrew isn't doing anything cuz it's a rather small load with arguably too much water.

Post# 979321 , Reply# 39   1/21/2018 at 12:02 (511 days old) by dylanmitchell (San Diego, CA)        

Not sure if Bellelo's is near you or would deliver to you.

And a question for those on this thread what is there a commercial residential Maytag front load model? TL is MVWP575GW, Dryer is MGDP575GW/ MEDP575GW but nothing between consumer style FL and MHN33PNCGW/ MHN33PRCWW?

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Post# 979346 , Reply# 40   1/21/2018 at 15:45 (511 days old) by SudsySenior (southwest British Columbia)        
Comforters and my Fisher & Paykel

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I have my down king-size duvet washed every few of years by the company that makes them ( Canada, and Dania Down). And it is about CAD 36.00. I have several covers, light cotton and bright colours for summer, heavy for winter, easy to launder.

I actually logged on again to add to my posts from late 2017 but cannot find them anywhere and this maybe useful to the OP.

I too have a narrow entrance to the laundry area and really no room in there for a front loader anyhow.

The terrific people here led me gently to a Fisher and Paykel 3927, their traditional agitator top loader. and I wanted to come back to say I am in LOVE with this machine. Thank you everyone!

And I see above comments about the noise from top-loading machines. This one is quiet, it is quick, it is efficient, it is even pretty. And it came with a promotion of a 5 year warranty.

All I wanted was a machine that worked. Now I am so enthusiastic I drag friends in to admire it.

Happily sudsing, The Sudsy Senior

Post# 979358 , Reply# 41   1/21/2018 at 17:30 (511 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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SudsySenior--I think your posts last year are probably these:


You should be able to post to that thread again.


Your posts probably vanished because the index page only shows what has been most recently active. If I recall right, there is only one index page per subforum for regular (non-upgraded) users like you. But everything does get archived.


Glad to hear you are happy with your washer!

Post# 979359 , Reply# 42   1/21/2018 at 17:50 (511 days old) by Stricklybojack (San Diego, CA)        

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Great choice on the F & P washer.
Now that SQ has, at least for the time being lost it's crown, we can now talk more about other machines like the one you opted for.

Post# 979477 , Reply# 43   1/22/2018 at 18:46 (510 days old) by SudsySenior (southwest British Columbia)        

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Thank you Lord Kenmore, for the link. I went through the current page and quite a few archives pages,using both the search box and Control F, with no luck. I have now saved the link.

And thanks, StrickleyboJack, yes, I had been keen to have a Speed Queen but now rather relieved; feel very lucky to have found this site.


Post# 1020596 , Reply# 44   1/8/2019 at 19:19 by washer88 (Louisiana)        

Hello, all you beautiful washing machine gurus!

I am the poster who created this thread a year ago, washyume.

I never bought a new washing machine. I just didn't feel like spending the money, but now I'm ready for some retail therapy and my machine is throwing a LF code. I don't even care what it means, because I'm finally ready to get a new washer!

Are the LG WM3770 and MVWP575GW still viable options? Anything better?

Post# 1020602 , Reply# 45   1/8/2019 at 19:48 by Moon1234 (Wisconsin)        

Better is a loaded term. I would take a Miele anything over an LG, Maytag or Whirlpool. It would most likely not fall in your price range nor in your size requirement. We love ours and probably do more laundry than most (13 people in the house). We shove queen size sheets, comforter, etc in the W1 and they all come out clean. Once they are wet they donít take up so much room.

But..... Theybare probably the most expensive washer on the market.

Have you looked at Electrolux? I donít hear much if anything bad about them. They are full size machines, but probably cost more than all the others except Miele.

Speed Queen if you want a top loader. Would never own a top loader ever again, but thatís a personal preference.

Post# 1020606 , Reply# 46   1/8/2019 at 20:29 by washer88 (Louisiana)        

I'll check out electrolux right now. Is it a good brand in The USA? I ask because earlier in this thread there was some negative talk about Miele in the USA.

Post# 1020608 , Reply# 47   1/8/2019 at 21:10 by speedqueen (Harrison Twp, Michigan)        
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The Maytag MVWP575GW is still available, but we have also seen quite a few members getting Speed Queen commercial models that still use the old mechanism, the LWN432 that still has the mechanical timer and transmission. It lacks a water level switch, but so does the Maytag.

Post# 1020613 , Reply# 48   1/8/2019 at 22:29 by Moon1234 (Wisconsin)        


Electrolux is a decent brand in the USA. Their top end models has good feature and clean well. They at the top of the pack for build quality with probably only speed Queen and Miele beating them out.

What you read about Miele unthread is not true. We bought parts for our w4840 (drain pump) when it was a 13 year old model. It was in stock and we had it in four days. I bought a thermostat and a moisture sensing carbon brush for the T9802 dryer when it was a 12 year old model. Got the parts again in a few days and they were in stock. Miele guarantees parts a availability for 15 years after a model is discontinued.

If you call Miele directly and provide the part number I have not run into them not being able to get the part. Local service companies are more likely to tell you not available than to actually call Miele and ask.

The current washer and dryer models are sold all over the world and are virtually identical. I would not he worried about parts.

Post# 1020643 , Reply# 49   1/9/2019 at 07:55 by washer88 (Louisiana)        

Also, my husband has done some measuring, and he says we can fit, and almost fully open, a front loader on a pedestal. Last year I was leaning TL, but now I'm leaning FL.

I'd still like to be able to wash a king comforter, but I'm also thinking about getting new bedding with a thinner batting than a comforter.

And since I didn't buy one last year, I have even mo money to spend on a new machine! In fact, I will be buying a washer AND its matching dryer.

Post# 1020694 , Reply# 50   1/9/2019 at 19:52 by washer88 (Louisiana)        

Holy Moly! LG has an all-in-one washer and dryer. Model # WM3997HWA

It's ventless.

Post# 1020700 , Reply# 51   1/9/2019 at 21:13 by LowEfficiency (Iowa)        

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>> Holy Moly! LG has an all-in-one washer and dryer. Model # WM3997HWA

I think that one was discussed here before. Consider this portion of the review from Consumer Reports before deciding if it meets your needs.

Dryer: Scoring Poor overall, this ventless dryer takes around 3 hours to thoroughly dry an 8-pound load of cottons. That means washing and drying a load that size takes over 4 1⁄2 hours. Most dryers we test have moisture sensors, but this one doesnít. The sensor detects when clothes are dry and shuts off the machine, saving time, energy, and wear and tear on fabrics. This machine is quiet in dryer mode, which is a plus. Note that during drying, most of the condensation is removed via the drain line, but some moisture vents into the room from both the front of the machine and the back panel.

The machine's drying capacity is similar to a compact dryer's, which is why the LG manual states that if you're using the machine to dry laundry, cut a full wash load in half for ďeffective drying.Ē Put another way, by both LG and Kenmore, the capacity for washing clothes is twice the capacity for drying: ďIf you wash a full load, you should remove half the clothes before drying,Ē says Kenmoreís Peters.

Post# 1020714 , Reply# 52   1/10/2019 at 05:52 by washer88 (Louisiana)        

Venting humidity in my home is not something a person from Louisiana wants. :/

Post# 1025004 , Reply# 53   2/18/2019 at 11:14 by washer14 (Louisiana)        

Another user name, I must have used a disposable email.

I bought a FL eletrolux (EFLW317TIW), not the newest model. It works great!!!!

It didn't do a good job at cleaning my king comforter, so I bought new bedding, too. It didn't have any problem washing the 108" x 98" king comforter.

Thanks, y'all!

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