Thread Number: 73973
/ Tag: Vintage Dishwashers
KitchenAid Superba KDS-17A dishwasher - cycle does not advance |
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Post# 977333 , Reply# 1   1/7/2018 at 15:20 (2,272 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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There are two motors on the timer. One rapid-advances it to the starting point of the selected cycle, quickly to Off at the end of Rinse/Hold, or to the final drain for Cancel. The other advances it at normal speed through the cycle sequence, and is what's not working. I don't have direct experience working on KA, so can't say if the bad motor can be replaced separately or the entire timer must be changed. I'm sure one of the KA experts will come along with more specific details. |
Post# 977347 , Reply# 2   1/7/2018 at 17:56 (2,272 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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You likley have a bad timer motor for the normal advance speed, these motors can be replaced separately if you can find a motor usually from another timer.
Kitchenaid used two different suppliers for the the timer on KDS-17 DWs, you either have a Singer or Mallory timer and you need the correct timer motor while if replacing the complete timer they are interchangeable.
The KDS-17 DWs were very popular machines in their day and you should not have too much trouble finding a replacement complete timer or good new or used motor, if you can't find just the timer motor get in touch and I probably have one.
John L. |
Post# 977385 , Reply# 4   1/7/2018 at 20:53 (2,271 days old) by Spacedogb (Lafayette, LA)   |   | |
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There is one on eBay right now |
Post# 977388 , Reply# 5   1/7/2018 at 21:08 (2,271 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 977438 , Reply# 6   1/8/2018 at 07:56 (2,271 days old) by arcfire (Northfield, MN)   |   | |
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Maybe I am not searching for the right thing. Is it just "kitchenaid KDS-17 timer" that it would be called on ebay? Or is there a part number I need? Thank you, Arthur |
Post# 977476 , Reply# 7   1/8/2018 at 14:28 (2,271 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 977487 , Reply# 8   1/8/2018 at 15:34 (2,271 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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The ad in that link is for an entire rapid advance timer assembly, not just the regular timer motor.
What we need is the part number for the Singer timer motor, or a good search term for one.
That having been stated, the entire timer might not be a bad thing to consider. It's worth making an offer for it when you consider how much a flimsy brand new dishwasher would set you back. |
Post# 977490 , Reply# 9   1/8/2018 at 16:12 (2,271 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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I've replaced the timer in both of my 17s with this one and it's a simple plug and play operation. I've never done just the motor. If it were me I'd go with the whole new timer given other components of the timers can wear out.
I think either would work but I don't have a number for just the timer motor. |
Post# 1098039 , Reply# 11   11/22/2020 at 20:30 (1,221 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Dan, at the end of the cycle the low speed timer motor advances the timer the last increment which takes 1 or 2 minutes, on your video you advanced the timer by hand after only 10 seconds or so, are you saying that it never advances ?
If you need a replacement timer we have good used ones for sale for $68 with the club discount+ shipping.
John L. |
Post# 1098090 , Reply# 13   11/23/2020 at 11:41 (1,221 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Dan, I can not find a completer timer for your DW, I may have just a timer motor, the regular cycle slow motor is the one mounted between the two wiring blocks.
I would take this motor off the timer and see if it runs properly when powered up, if not post a picture of all the numbers on the old motor and I will see if we have just the motor.
Send requests to [ service@alcoappliance.net ]
Thanks John |
Post# 1098098 , Reply# 14   11/23/2020 at 12:56 (1,221 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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