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P.O.D. 1/29/2018 -- Maytag Savasuds Suds-Return System:
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Post# 980339   1/29/2018 at 02:22 (260 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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So does it resemble an OUTBOARD MOTOR, or a CAMERA ON A TRIPOD, as in "Say Cheese!"????

Neat how it like looks as though you can adapt it to fit just ANY laundry washing machine...

But can you? Has anybody here ever heard of these, or had one, him or herself?

-- Dave

Post# 980340 , Reply# 1   1/29/2018 at 02:34 (260 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

What a great way to equip any traditional top-load washer with suds-saving capability! Have never seen this outboard Maytag system before. It looks, basically, like the sump pump we had in our basement when I was growing up.

The device is installed in a deep suds-saving laundry sink/tub. Water from the wash cycle enters the tub. An adjustable float detects when the sink is full and opens a second port to send rinse water to a drain or another sink. The saved water is then pumped back into the washer for another cycle.

Interesting that the chart in the ad shows how much water is saved when a single tub of water is used for a total of five cycles. That's stretching it even for a suds-saver devotee like me. I grew up with a suds-saving 1960 Kenmore Model 80. We generally reused water for only 1 or 2 additional loads (a total of 2 or 3 loads).


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Post# 980349 , Reply# 2   1/29/2018 at 05:28 (260 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        

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a lot of work to install, but FUN.

Post# 980350 , Reply# 3   1/29/2018 at 05:55 (260 days old) by Partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)        
Never have seen this...

Both my Mother and Aunt Edith had Maytags with built in suds savers but never have seen anything like this. Whirlpool also had a suds-miser attachment for the early direct drives. I always thought that was a better idea than having to order a machine with the device built in. This device from Maytag looks frightening-if you set it out front of your house everyone would slow down thinking it's radar or something...and I am somewhat freaked out by something with an electrical plug standing in a pool of water. Just sayin"...

If I had room for a set tub I would go back to a suds saver in a moment. Talk about high efficiency! These are a great way to save hot water and detergent and clothes still come out clean. I do wonder how modern detergents would work in this situation. Even now it bothers me a little bit to dump a tubful of hot or warm soapy water down the drain after it's only been used once.

I think Maytag should offer a suds saver version of the new Commercial/Residential model-call it the Maytag Miser or something like that. Bet they would sell a few of 'em.

Post# 980375 , Reply# 4   1/29/2018 at 08:23 (260 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Never knew Maytag made a sump pump.... LOL  


Now this could be an automaticwasher challenge - who can build one like it?  *giggle*

Post# 980388 , Reply# 5   1/29/2018 at 09:38 (260 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

This must have been a way to retrofit the early AMPs for suds saving. I have seen pictures of later AMPs with two spouts over the rear of the tub, one for fill and one for suds return. so this was before Maytag put a suds valve and return pump in the washer and had a complicated  system like the ones derided in this product announcement.

Post# 980406 , Reply# 6   1/29/2018 at 11:36 (260 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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that was an ingenious idea for the time, and most likely could be used for any automatic machine....

I have used a sump pump to return water before, but it was something you had to monitor the wash cycle, as to not let the rinse and sprays to dilute the saved water....

that float valve was brilliant.....

Whirlpool had a similar set that mounted to the was shown a number of first designs created...starting at 1:30

Post# 980419 , Reply# 7   1/29/2018 at 13:37 (260 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

One summer during an extended drought, I used a submersible pump in a big plastic trash can to pump rinse water out onto newly planted stuff in the yard.


The flaw in the Maytag system was that it would pump the settled soil back into the next load. 


I can't quite understand their numbers though. Even if you pumped back all the stored wash water, the dry load would absorb some of that water so the tub would have to be topped off.

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