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Thread Number: 74656
/ Tag: Wringer Washers
Came across this Visi-matic beauty |
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Post# 984608 , Reply# 1 2/27/2018 at 18:25 (2,243 days old) by Frigilux  (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 984648 , Reply# 2 2/28/2018 at 06:26 (2,242 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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Great wringer, I would love to find one with the spray rinse wringer from 58. | ||
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Post# 984679 , Reply# 4 2/28/2018 at 10:32 (2,242 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Nice Wringer Washer
Your Model # should have a 110. in front of 6402500 [ 110.6402500 ] The 64 would indicate it came out around 1964, but with the serial# we could tell you when it was actually built.
WP-KM WWs like their automatics were the best performers overall of all major US brands built in the same time period. You could also use the straight vane agitator from a basic WP or KM WW if you can find one, the agitators from the automatics are similar but do not fit properly. John L. | ||
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Post# 984685 , Reply# 6 2/28/2018 at 11:25 (2,242 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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| Post# 984702 , Reply# 7 2/28/2018 at 15:51 (2,242 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
You've struck gold.
What a beauty! And a rare 62. Mine is a 61. Would love to see a close up of the control panel, a white one, no less. There are so many models of Lady Kenmore Conventionals out there, both Visi-matics and the Closed top wringers. Have never seen a 62 before. Did you get it for a good price?
About the goose neck: Have seen universal steel ones somewhere, but it won't come to mind just now. Maybe you could adapt or retro-fit one if you find it. Swapping out the old for a whole new hose is pretty easy. An Easyspin Spiralator will perfectly fit in your Lady. Could go on and on about the wonders of these machines till people start beating their breast and tearing out their hair.
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| Post# 984721 , Reply# 9 2/28/2018 at 19:03 (2,242 days old) by Vintagevillage (Morehead, Ky) | ||
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Picture of control timer. It is not a 2 speed, but I love it just the same!
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| Post# 984722 , Reply# 10 2/28/2018 at 19:04 (2,242 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Meant to say 64, of course--brain flatulence
Always found the original hoses too short, and thus had no problem exchanging them. Interesting to note that the earliest conventionals usually had very ample hoses, easier to reach toward a more distant drain, beyond the rinse tubs. Then many makers, Whirlpool/Kenmore, Norge, and more started making short hoses with little slack. Theorize that they were copying Maytag whose machines always sported the abbreviated hoses. Bradross's early 50's Kenmore has just such an ample hose.
Here's my 66 with a user friendly hose replacement. Your filter is also unusual and new to me. How about a close-up of that, too. Thanks
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| Post# 984723 , Reply# 11 2/28/2018 at 19:06 (2,242 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Simulposting--love it! | ||
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Post# 984732 , Reply# 13 2/28/2018 at 20:05 (2,242 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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amazing the changes through the years.....
as with Mickey's machine, with that type of lint filter setup, you would see a hole in the tub for the hose to hang for storage as well as for the function of the lint filter..... seen older ones with the lint filter built into the lid.... curious how your filter functions....doesn't seem to have any ports for the drain hose... the only downside I see to the tub mounted filters is losing water level capacity... | ||
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Post# 984734 , Reply# 14 2/28/2018 at 20:06 (2,242 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 984739 , Reply# 15 2/28/2018 at 21:04 (2,242 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Not sure what you mean, Martin. The 4 paddle spanker Norge and the SQ agitators are interchangeable, until Norge made a higher 3 vane sometime in the very late 60's which won't fit the SQ. Is this something we talked about at the Museum, the summer before last? Exchanging agitators all the time, it's had to keep track or remember, necessitating another "fitting" sometimes. Enlighten me.
Joseph, 75 bucks was a very generous ask. And what low low mileage the tub and agi show. Envisioning a sweet old man doing his wash once a week, or every other, no overnight soaks, rinsing carefully after each washday. You lucked out. The scrubber cap was a delightful gift from John Coldspot66. When I found the machine, it sported a rusty old nut in lieu of an agitator cap, and when John saw its sorry state, he offered me a brand new cap. Martin & Joe: Here's the lid mounted filter hole, and the oldest version of the straight vane in the 62 Pinkster.
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Post# 984744 , Reply# 16 2/28/2018 at 21:55 (2,242 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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My '48 Kenmore has the same 3 vane and washes fine.
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Post# 984750 , Reply# 17 2/28/2018 at 22:34 (2,242 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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@Mickey......I didn't remember if you got around to getting the agitator from a solid tub machine to fit the wringer...
I can imagine that churning some serious water in a wringer.....would love to see a video with a several water levels.... this was the original thread that we came up with ideas to make it fit your wringer... was curious too if the SQ agitator fit the Visi-Matic? Joe, I believe I have a scrubber cap, if your interested, let me know... I understand the use of the scrubber as I used one on the automatics, except it always seemed to unscrew.... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Yogitunes's LINK | ||
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Post# 984780 , Reply# 19 3/1/2018 at 08:02 (2,241 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 984791 , Reply# 20 3/1/2018 at 09:22 (2,241 days old) by Vintagevillage (Morehead, Ky) | ||
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Just upgraded... Martin- Just upgraded. Man, lots of benefits! | ||
| Post# 984811 , Reply# 21 3/1/2018 at 10:51 (2,241 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Thanks, Joe | ||
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Post# 984946 , Reply# 22 3/2/2018 at 09:17 (2,240 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 984968 , Reply# 23 3/2/2018 at 12:58 (2,240 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 984969 , Reply# 24 3/2/2018 at 13:10 (2,240 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Surprise, Guys!
Well, here's the thing. Remember when machines in general changed the tub size from 10 pound capacities to 12? Around 1964 or so.
I remember my Aunt Margaret's 64 Frigidaire had the new 12 pound load size. Likewise, the conventional wringer washers changed their tub sizes as well. The KM 61 is 13 & 1/2 inches deep, while the 66 hops up to15 inches; the 61 straight vane will not work in the 66, nor will the 66's Root-swirl properly fit the 61. Since Joe's machine has the Roto-swirl, that must have been the year of the change over in capacity for Kenmore Conventionals, 1964, the same year for many automatics. Sweet surprising irony in the fact that you can switch among many brands, but sometimes, not within them. What we need to find and see is the Agitator used in early Whirlpools before the Surgilator. You're seeing the solution here, gentlemen: The Surgilator and the Roto would be interchangeable, so would WP's early 3-vane with the KM 3-vane; but not the other way around. John is right in that the Automatics are not interchangeable with the Conventions. I've tried them all to certain disappointment. I wonder if we have pictures anywhere of this first Whirlpool agitator. Pic talk: The first mark is the 15 inches the tub depth measurement of the 66; the second, the 61. Here's the Roto-swirl in the 61 whose business end can't bridge the gap.
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