Thread Number: 74668
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1950s Kenmore automatic washer |
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Post# 984771   3/1/2018 at 06:54 (2,242 days old) by Justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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Can anyone tell me anything about this Kenmore washing machine I just bought?
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Post# 984772 , Reply# 1   3/1/2018 at 07:22 (2,242 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)   |   | |
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First off, I want to say Welcome to our group. There is a great wealth of information on vintage appliances here. Not just washers and dryers. I have been a part of this group for just about 12 years now. I have received machines, parts and lots of information from the many members here. Not to mention several friendships.
As far as the machine is concerned, I personally can't give much information on it. But I'm sure there are some that could help you out. Does the Kenmore work? |
Post# 984773 , Reply# 2   3/1/2018 at 07:35 (2,242 days old) by Justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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I plugged it in and I hear the motor hum. It was sitting in an abandoned shop for the last forty years or so. I’m guessing it needs everything. This is my first project! I’ve had many wringer washers over the years which is what we currently use to wash with. I’m so glad to join the group! I want to get this up and running. For 30 dollars I think it was a good buy?
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Post# 984776 , Reply# 3   3/1/2018 at 07:51 (2,242 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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Welcome! I'm sure the experts will chime in with more info. |
Post# 984778 , Reply# 4   3/1/2018 at 07:54 (2,242 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)   |   | |
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$30 is definitely a good price for that. Since it has been sitting for the past 40 years, the hoses will most likely need to be replaced. The rubber tends to get hard and gets brittle. Being that this is a 60+ year old machine, the parts are hard to come by. You may have to do some creative thinking to figure out hoses for it. Not only local appliance shops but also your local auto parts store. I can't remember how many times I've taken a hose into Autozone for a washer to get replaced. When there they usually ask me what it is for. I get a weird look when I tell them it is for a washing machine.
You said you could hear it hum, did you turn the knob to see if the tub spins or the agitator agitates? Towards the top of this page, there is a link titled "Manuals & Literature" It consist of owners manuals as well as service manuals for many different machines. I saw some early 50's service manuals for Kenmores. Wouldn't be a bad idea to download it. They do cost a little bit, but not much. You can use PayPal to pay for it. By the way, Justin here. |
Post# 984782 , Reply# 5   3/1/2018 at 08:07 (2,242 days old) by Justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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I’m Justin as well! The motor just hums the belt isn’t spinning so I’m guessing something is frozen up. I have no idea where to begin. I’m guessing the agitator should spin by hand with the machine off? I can’t move it. I will certainly check out those manuals. Not an appliance repair man by any means lol!
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Post# 984785 , Reply# 6   3/1/2018 at 08:21 (2,242 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Justin welcome to the club - you got a real gem the attached seems similar to your machine.
Best Of Luck Peter
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Post# 984786 , Reply# 7   3/1/2018 at 08:28 (2,242 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 984789 , Reply# 9   3/1/2018 at 09:12 (2,241 days old) by Justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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Post# 984790 , Reply# 10   3/1/2018 at 09:18 (2,241 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 984795 , Reply# 11   3/1/2018 at 09:45 (2,241 days old) by sfh074 ( )   |   | |
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Post# 984796 , Reply# 12   3/1/2018 at 09:52 (2,241 days old) by Justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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Hey Bob, thanks for the welcome! I’d love to see your collection sometime. They’re very hard to find these days. I bought this machine off Facebook believe it or not over in Mount Pilot. I’ve never rebuilt one so I’ll need lots of advice! I used to have several vintage automatics I bought at a used appliance store when I lived in Washington State for work. I could kick myself for leaving them behind. They were pretty easy to find out there and I took it for granted :( I’ve included a picture of a dryer I bought out there I left in the basement when I moved.
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Post# 984798 , Reply# 13   3/1/2018 at 10:11 (2,241 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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motor might only have rust buildup between rotor and stator and can be "cracked"loose with a wrench on the pulley :) |
Post# 984800 , Reply# 14   3/1/2018 at 10:25 (2,241 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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From your first photo, it looks like you found one of the rare early 24" wide machines. Congratulations and welcome! |
Post# 984801 , Reply# 15   3/1/2018 at 10:30 (2,241 days old) by Stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Post# 984802 , Reply# 16   3/1/2018 at 10:33 (2,241 days old) by justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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Post# 984805 , Reply# 17   3/1/2018 at 10:38 (2,241 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 984808 , Reply# 18   3/1/2018 at 10:45 (2,241 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Looks like very early 50's. If you look at the model number, it will start with 110. The two numbers after that are the year of production.
Interested n your current wringer; love them myself. Welcome to the club. If I may, what did you do in Washington state? Odd not to see a "SUDS" on the dial of a machine of that vintage. |
Post# 984813 , Reply# 19   3/1/2018 at 11:05 (2,241 days old) by justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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Post# 984817 , Reply# 20   3/1/2018 at 12:04 (2,241 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 984818 , Reply# 21   3/1/2018 at 12:53 (2,241 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Pete was spot-on, a 57. Check out the wringer in the ad Pete posted. What a beautiful beast, full-skirted without the central seam, sporting a lid-mounted filter. What a treat, another "Never Seen!"
There are a lot of Wringer Men here, Justin, who love them as much as they do their automatics. When you get time, share your wringer history. Michael |
Post# 984819 , Reply# 22   3/1/2018 at 12:55 (2,241 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 984822 , Reply# 23   3/1/2018 at 13:16 (2,241 days old) by Justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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My Maytag wringer was the first appliance I picked up probably age13ish? It’s not worth anything other than the fact it’s old faithful and my spouse won’t use anything else! We’ve had several automatics over our marriage but that wringer still got used more! Plus it looks great on the porch of our 1905 home 😉
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Post# 984824 , Reply# 24   3/1/2018 at 13:56 (2,241 days old) by Stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Post# 984825 , Reply# 25   3/1/2018 at 13:57 (2,241 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)   |   | |
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Out of the two of you, who does the laundry more? Out of my husband and I, he does more of the laundry than I do. Our everyday set is a bit newer, but still older. The washer is a 1990 Lady Kenmore and the dryer is a 1987 Limited Edition Kenmore. The older machines are out in the garage and I play with them more. We only have one wringer, a Maytag from the 1920s with a gas powered engine to run it. I need to restore it and get it running.
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Post# 984826 , Reply# 26   3/1/2018 at 14:14 (2,241 days old) by justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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I actually had to leave the monitor top at my house in Georgia when I sold it as the buyers made it part of the deal. Every house I've sold people always want my antique stove and refrigerator! Tim probably does more laundry than I do. I love the looks of it but it really is a pain in the butt to use it twice a week haha! I'm hoping I can get this new Kenmore up to speed as a backup up for rainy days so that every wash day can be a holiday as the ad says!
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Post# 984828 , Reply# 28   3/1/2018 at 14:49 (2,241 days old) by justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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Awesome! Yes I'd love too. We moved here right before Christmas to enjoy the four seasons. Georgia was just to hot but I didn't want to leave the south. I like small appliances as well. I have about six percolators and some other small vintage appliances but nowhere close to 1,000. I used to have a bunch of antique tvs but the repair bill was breaking me every time the repair man came out to replace capacitors or what not.
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Post# 984829 , Reply# 29   3/1/2018 at 14:52 (2,241 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 984857 , Reply# 30   3/1/2018 at 16:39 (2,241 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 984861 , Reply# 31   3/1/2018 at 16:57 (2,241 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 984865 , Reply# 32   3/1/2018 at 17:54 (2,241 days old) by Losangeles (Muscle Shoals, AL 35661)   |   | |
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CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME ABOARD!!
I am drooling over your jewel of a find. My mother had a 1950's Kenmore only the lid opened from front to back. She used to stand me up in it to get me out from under foot. Fell in love with washing machines from that point on. You have just entered the University of Washing Machines. Can't wait to see this beauty up and running. Keep us posted. |
Post# 984868 , Reply# 33   3/1/2018 at 18:11 (2,241 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 984919 , Reply# 35   3/2/2018 at 06:34 (2,241 days old) by Justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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I appreciate the welcome guys! My parents thought I was nuts as a kid dragging home old appliances. I’m glad to know I’m not the only one with a love for these machines! I’ve included a picture of me as a teenager inspecting a Bendix I believe?
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Post# 984925 , Reply# 37   3/2/2018 at 07:42 (2,241 days old) by Frigidaireguy (Wiston-Salem, NC)   |   | |
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If I'm not mistaken that is a '53 Bendix Duomatic (the first made). Don't you wish you still had that one. Bob |
Post# 984935 , Reply# 38   3/2/2018 at 08:09 (2,241 days old) by justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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Post# 984936 , Reply# 39   3/2/2018 at 08:10 (2,241 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Welcome to the site Justin
The 57 is a cool find, it is always fun to find the more basic models as well as the TOL machines we all seem to love.
This 24" wide machine was popular for its slightly lower price and smaller size which allowed it to fit in kitchens and apartments where the full sized machines would not fit. Very few 24" machines had the Suds-Saver option, again because there usually was no laundry tub since the machine was purchased to fit in a smaller space.
This washer could be turned into a fairly reliable machine, but certainly needs a good going over if you expect it to work properly and last very long. It would be easy to add a Suds-Saver which would make it work well if you also use your WWs much. The water capacity of the 24" washers is 16 gallons and they were rated for 8 pound loads of cotton fabrics.
Since it won't run try loosing the motor mount at the base plate and get the belt off the pulleys, then you can see if the motor is free to turn etc, the water pump is the most likley item to size and of course the belt may just be rusted to the pulleys.
I have any parts you might need to rebuild this washer, a few years ago I rebuilt several BD WPs for myself and others and I need to schedule another rebuilding session as I have several other machines I want to do, when I do this you might want to bring this one up and do it at the same time. Get in touch some time for details.
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Post# 984939 , Reply# 40   3/2/2018 at 08:19 (2,241 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Hi Justin, welcome to aw.org. I also agree with previous posts saying the most likely culprit is the water pump being frozen up by old water scale.
There is a three part service manual to these Kenmore Machines available on Automatic Ephemera if you wish. Kenmore Washer Service Manual Part 1 Kenmore Washer Service Manual Part 2 Kenmore Washer Service Manual Part 3 This is a 1957 Model, here is the Fall/Winter '57 Sears Catalog page with your washer, it was sold for $144.95 (which is $1282.74 in today's dollars)...
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Post# 984951 , Reply# 41   3/2/2018 at 09:46 (2,240 days old) by justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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Post# 984957 , Reply# 42   3/2/2018 at 10:46 (2,240 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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I believe that the 24" dryer to match this washer is in the Beltsville Museum. I remember when it was found. |
Post# 984959 , Reply# 43   3/2/2018 at 10:59 (2,240 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 984975 , Reply# 44   3/2/2018 at 13:33 (2,240 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada)   |   | |
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Hello Justin,
Wow, what a response to both your membership here as well as your post! I must say - even though I'm mainly a "wringer man" - that Kenmore looks great! I'm sure you'll keep us posted on the restoration process. Fantastic that you have some fellow club members close-by in N.C. I must say something, as I'm sure some other older members of the club will attest, it's great to see younger guys taking an interest in these old machines. They'll live on for another generation! Hopefully, the interest keeps getting passed down. In a separate thread at some point, please post some pics of your wringer(s). Have fun! Brad P.S. chucked at your comment about hating the weather in the Pacific Northwest. After 32 years here, I'm starting to feel the same! |
Post# 984976 , Reply# 45   3/2/2018 at 14:31 (2,240 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)   |   | |
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This advertisement appeared in the October 1956 issue of 'House+Home' magazine. I assume that the ad is promoting 1957 appliances, and if so, here's Whirlpool's 24'inch washer and matching dryer. These were being promoted to the builder market.
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Post# 985242 , Reply# 46   3/4/2018 at 11:55 (2,238 days old) by Justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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The motor still hums but I have the belt where I can turn it by hand. I have some wires hanging that appear to connect to a mystery part?
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Post# 985245 , Reply# 47   3/4/2018 at 13:07 (2,238 days old) by Justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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Post# 985247 , Reply# 48   3/4/2018 at 13:18 (2,238 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 985265 , Reply# 49   3/4/2018 at 15:49 (2,238 days old) by Justingray87 (Taylorsville North Carolina )   |   | |
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Post# 985298 , Reply# 50   3/4/2018 at 20:10 (2,238 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)   |   | |
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Post# 985320 , Reply# 51   3/4/2018 at 21:56 (2,238 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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The wigwag is definitely missing, the plungers are sitting askew with nothing to anchor them from above. A new-style wigwag will work but the plungers will also have to be changed to the newer style. There's no way for it to shift into (or out of) agitate or spin (other than by someone manually moving the cam bars) without the wigwag (aka control magnet assembly). |
Post# 985327 , Reply# 52   3/4/2018 at 22:53 (2,238 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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