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Post# 985891   3/8/2018 at 21:23 (199 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Yes siree, in one fell swoop, both machines I coveted showed up. Thanks to Martin (Yogitunes), I will be picking them up next week. The dryer (HOH?) works, but the seller has no idea if the washer does.  Only 2 pictures in the ad (shown), they look fairly good. Stay tuned!

 

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Post# 985898 , Reply# 1   3/8/2018 at 22:03 (199 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Louie, that is the ultimate laundry pair!  You'll never need to look for anything else!

 

Congratulations!


Post# 985919 , Reply# 2   3/9/2018 at 09:20 (198 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Aferim!

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...HA! Glory...


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Post# 985920 , Reply# 3   3/9/2018 at 09:20 (198 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

Here's hoping the seller's brother doesn't intervene, like with that Kenmore pair...

Post# 985944 , Reply# 4   3/9/2018 at 15:07 (198 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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YAY Louis!!  I would be surprised if the washer didn't work.  Keep us posted as things develop!


Post# 985945 , Reply# 5   3/9/2018 at 15:20 (198 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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You bet Paul! I'll be dropping the washer off at Martin's so he could work his magic on it. I'll pick it up at a later date. The dryer is going back to Brooklyn.


Post# 986030 , Reply# 6   3/10/2018 at 07:24 (197 days old) by potatochips (Nova Scotia)        

Awesome! I cant wait to see more. I like the colour.

Post# 986165 , Reply# 7   3/11/2018 at 12:57 (196 days old) by hippiedoll (tucson, arizona u.s.a.)        
CONGRATULATIONS!!

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Doing the HAPPY DANCE for ya!
Keep us posted on updates!
I hope the washer doesn't need too much work to get it running & back in service!

Keeping my fingers crossed for you...
;o)


Post# 986166 , Reply# 8   3/11/2018 at 13:15 (196 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Christina! I'm pretty happy to have joined the Maytag 806 club! Plenty of pictures coming!


Post# 986167 , Reply# 9   3/11/2018 at 13:22 (196 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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OK you Maytag aficionados, is it possible to vent a DE806 from the side of the cabinet? 


Post# 986168 , Reply# 10   3/11/2018 at 13:41 (196 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

Those are sweet. I'm with Hippedoll, doing the happy dance for ya. They should serve you well for many years.

Post# 986169 , Reply# 11   3/11/2018 at 13:41 (196 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Why yes, yes it is. Take the back off, and there will be an aluminum elbow, that you can loosen the clamp, and turn.


Post# 986170 , Reply# 12   3/11/2018 at 13:44 (196 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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here is a HOH with the body removed...appears it can be vented out either side with the addition of a few pipes....

seems it can go out either side, or out the upper back....just not straight down through the base....

photo courteous of DJones.......


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Post# 986176 , Reply# 13   3/11/2018 at 15:33 (196 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks guys.

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I seem to remember there was a punch out on the side of the cabinet? Or was it another brand?


Post# 986178 , Reply# 14   3/11/2018 at 15:59 (196 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Just answered my own question...

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Post# 986194 , Reply# 15   3/11/2018 at 18:22 (196 days old) by bendix5 (Central Point, Oregon)        

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Super find. I think they are beautiful. I still have my 806 in my shed. I plan on getting it out this spring and getting it up and running. I miss that machine. It is the last of my collection or collecting. You will love them.

Post# 986286 , Reply# 16   3/12/2018 at 13:11 (195 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Like they say

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Good things come to those who swear alot and drink. LOL! I'm just KIDDING...back off!

Congratulations, Louie. I wouldn't mind trying those out myself, someday, but I haven't seen anything nearby.

Please enjoy and have a toast of your favorite whatever(water, wine, anything) and here's to being patient.

Now I wonder if Ralph will ever find that GE fridge? hmmm.


Post# 986311 , Reply# 17   3/12/2018 at 16:03 (195 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Hamden CT)        

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I would love to find a real clean one myself or any other model they made with lighted tub and panel.

Post# 986320 , Reply# 18   3/12/2018 at 17:57 (195 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Dan. Ever since I got the A107, I got hooked on Maytags!


Post# 986321 , Reply# 19   3/12/2018 at 17:57 (195 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Phil, I'll toast with a Diet Pepsi...LOL!


Post# 986322 , Reply# 20   3/12/2018 at 17:59 (195 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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As far as I know John, only the 806's and the hyper rare 906's had the lighted panels and tubs.


Post# 986325 , Reply# 21   3/12/2018 at 18:01 (195 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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After carefully looking at the picture of the ad, I've come to the conclusion this is an A806s, yep suds saver. It also has the chrome trim strip between the top and cabinet, so prior to 1973?


Post# 986338 , Reply# 22   3/12/2018 at 19:33 (195 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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I imagine the belts will need replacing on the washer. What are your thoughts on souping up the performance with different spec belts? Would the higher speed be detrimental to the washer and/or clothes?


Post# 986348 , Reply# 23   3/12/2018 at 22:24 (195 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Then raise your Diet Pepsi and

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cheers, happy washing with the new Maytags, Louie.



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Post# 986355 , Reply# 24   3/13/2018 at 00:23 (194 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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you can test out mine Louie.....I have the 50hz setup....

Post# 986373 , Reply# 25   3/13/2018 at 07:01 (194 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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I would diffidently get a 50 cycle motor pulley and set of 50 cycle belts, adding a motor start capacitor is also a great idea for any MT DC washer, the capacitor makes the motor start in a split second without any hesitation.

 

The large tub MT DC washers just couldn't handle and pull down a good sized load especially during the short rinse agitation period without the 15% speed boost the 50 cycle components give, the regular 16 gallon machines were not quite as bad but still were helped by the 15% speed increase.

 

If I were going to make this my primary daily driver I would also install the orbital transmission with the load sensor agitator. This upgrade really reduces the clothing wear while allowing larger items to turn over and get evenly washed, it was certainly the best agitator MT ever put in the DC washer. We have this combination [ 50C LS agitator ] hooked up in the A806 in our museum that anyone is welcome to come and try out and so far everyone that has tried it out has really been impressed. Its like the 4 cylinder Chrysler mini van with and without the turbo option, LOL.

 

The other thing I would do is use a WP inlet valve so you get a faster fill and better spray rinse, you should replace an inlet valve in any case if it is over about 10 years old to reduce the risk of floods.

 

When rebuilding the dryer I would modify the dryers heating element for 208 volts [ only if you have 208 volt power in your building ] so you get proper drying speeds, otherwise the HOH dryers are pretty slow as they only have a 4800 watt element [ WP- KM always used 5,600 watts during this time period ] which drops to around 3,600 if you have 208 volt power, at this wattage you are getting down to the drying heat of a European dryer without the fast spinning washer to go with it.

 

I might also consider adding sound insulation to the washer and dryer to make these smooth running machines even quieter and satisfying to use.

 

John L.


Post# 986388 , Reply# 26   3/13/2018 at 09:27 (194 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Wow John, thanks for all that info. I must admit I am very intrigued with all these modifications. As you may recall, I already have a load sensor agitator. This 806 will be a daily driver, and I want it to be the best it can be in terms of reliability and washing ability.


Post# 986389 , Reply# 27   3/13/2018 at 09:39 (194 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, Iowa)        
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First off, congrats on finding your dream set! Unless John has a secret stash of 50hz pulleys on hand, finding one from a distributor can be tricky. Here's a note I sent to another member last year regarding the pulleys -

Unfortunately it looks like the 50hz pulley is no longer available from most sources. The last PN I see available was the Y202496, but 202496, 1245651, 2-2496, were also listed at one time. The 50hz pulleys are a heavy machined pulley, rather than a stamped pulley that I've seen on may 60hz versions. You may want to keep a search active on ebay, just in case. The belts appear to still be available from a few sources.

 

To be honest, I'd clean the washer up, install a new injector, rebuild the motor glide with a new kit, clean the pulleys, install a new drive belt (pump belt should be fine), replace the water valve if you are concerned with using the original, and run with it.  Several members have had no issues with the wash action of the A806, as they came from the factory.  Personally I feel the A806 was the best of the best and I wouldn't change a thing with the drive system and leave it the way Newton intended it to be.

 

Ben


Post# 986406 , Reply# 28   3/13/2018 at 11:14 (194 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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Hi Ben, these were good washers in their day, but MT in Newton Iowa are the ones that upgraded this washer design to the orbital trans and Load sensor agitator, and If I can drive a 1973 Impala that runs and drives like a 2005 model I will do it any day.

Hope to see you soon, John


Post# 986414 , Reply# 29   3/13/2018 at 11:57 (194 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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A reasonable alternative to the hard-to-find 50Hz pulley is a trans oil change with Redline MT-90 oil. The wash action is downright violent, and no 'lazy' agitation when the temps are cold. Seeing is believing.

Post# 986435 , Reply# 30   3/13/2018 at 14:44 (194 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks Ben!

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I've decided to do the following:

 

A) Switch to a 50 cycle motor pulley and set of 50 cycle belts if available. If not, I'll  

put on new belts.

B) Install the Load Sensor agitator.

C) Switch to the WP inlet valve.

D) Rebuild the motor glide.

 

The transmission if working properly, I will leave be for now. And this is assuming the washer is working correctly at it's maiden wash.

 

As for the dryer, I have not made the 220 volt installation yet, so I have no idea if ultimately it will be true 220 service or 208V.

 

 




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Post# 986441 , Reply# 31   3/13/2018 at 16:36 (194 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Hamden CT)        
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Thanks I wasnt sure which models have that feature. I'll keep crossing my fingers a clean one comes my way.

Post# 986449 , Reply# 32   3/13/2018 at 17:22 (194 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
John

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I forgot to mention, the 808's had lighted panels too. They replaced the 806's from 1974 onward to 1980 I believe.


Post# 986492 , Reply# 33   3/14/2018 at 01:12 (193 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Hamden CT)        
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I Googled what the A906 looked like and saw it was the push button model so thats out lol. I think its gonna be the 806 or 808 hopefully in the near future. Thanks for the help.

Post# 986547 , Reply# 34   3/14/2018 at 13:38 (193 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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yeah, you won't find many 906's these days.....


Post# 986602 , Reply# 35   3/14/2018 at 18:39 (193 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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Changing the trans oil to a new more modern oil is differently a good idea if you are keeping the old style Pittman trans, but doing so does nothing about the poor turnover these bigger tub washers are know for and the barely over 600 RPM spin speed.

 

The 50 cycle motor pulleys are getting scarce but can easily be made by a local machinist, getting the correct belts is actually the harder part of the upgrade.

 

John L.


Post# 986610 , Reply# 36   3/14/2018 at 19:19 (193 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Berkel 01-402375-00119 MOTOR PULLEY 50HZ (01-402375-00119)

 

I this the pulley being referred to?


Post# 986612 , Reply# 37   3/14/2018 at 19:40 (193 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Thanks for the tip on the oil, Cory, I'm doing my 806 this summer and will try it.

The Load Sensor agitator may not be a worthwhile effort if you aren't increasing the agitation speed, the smaller fins on the Load Sensor won't move much at the 63 OPM of the Pittman transmission.

I looked for the 50HZ pulley & belt set a few years ago and came up dry at every turn. I ordered a set probably 10-12 years ago when they were still available from Maytag but it's not surprising they're all gone now. You really will love the 806, it is the pinnacle of Maytag, mine get used (factory specs) every week.


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Post# 986638 , Reply# 38   3/14/2018 at 22:20 (193 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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50hz setup....doubtful, but Partstore.com has it listed as out of stock until 3/24/18

pulley part number......Y202496 OR 2-2496, 202496


drive belt..............6 2119480....Maytag belt OR 2-11948, 211948


pump belt...............Q 62149 EB....from the Mansfield Prod Co OR 2-11451, 211451, 5303261155

the pump belt looks to be about 1/4" bigger than the original.....the original may work if you slid the pump all the way to the left.....when I get a chance, I will see if it works...no sense in buying another if it works....

the regular powerfin with this setup kicks ass.....

of course there is a powerfin from an orbital transmission that will work...

the ultimate would be the Load Sensor, to handle any size load





Post# 986738 , Reply# 39   3/15/2018 at 14:42 (192 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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John, right, no real advantage to spin speed, I use a separate spinner for that.

BUT, when laundry day comes around and I fire up my 3 806's to tackle the work, the improvement in turnover on my turquoise tag is like NIGHT AND DAY compared to the others. No more slow roll or swish-swash.

I've shot videos previously on this, need to get them uploaded for others. The only downside is that it's been strongly 'hinted' that I convert the other two!


Post# 986747 , Reply# 40   3/15/2018 at 15:22 (192 days old) by stevet (palm coast florida)        
50hz pulley??

Is that Berkel pulley really the correct pulley for a Maytag Washer? That comes from a Berkel Slicer and It is available thru your local Hobart office!

Post# 986749 , Reply# 41   3/15/2018 at 15:33 (192 days old) by ken (Ulster Hgts, NY)        
Maytag with 50hz pulley

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Video from our own Swestoyz

Load sensing agitator shown at end of vid.

Video description:

Ever wondered what a Hot Rodded washer would wash like?

Well here we go! A 1962 Maytag A700S, fitted with the guts of a 1971 Big Tub Maytag A806, along with a 50hz pulley and belt set-up. Watch and be amazed - and look for the surprise winning combination at the end!

(I bare no responsibility if you cause damage or break your washing machine performing a similar task. After all - when you Hot Rod something, expect something to break!)









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Post# 986772 , Reply# 42   3/15/2018 at 18:22 (192 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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See, this is exactly what I would be worried about. Undo wear and tear on the other components of the washer with 50 cycle set up.


Post# 986789 , Reply# 43   3/15/2018 at 21:53 (192 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Speeding Up A Maytag Washer 15%

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With a 50 cycle pulley has never caused a failure of any part that I have heard of.

 

That said I DO NOT recommend using the 50 cycle pulley with the older Pittman transmission and the orignal power-fin agitator. The PFA was proven to be the only agitator that actually will damage clothing in one washing in CRs tests, this agitator has fins that extend too far in the narrow MT wash basket, there fore speeding it up is not likley good for your clothing even though it will not hurt any washer components.

 

We have been using a Load-Sensor agitator with the short stroke orbital transmission in our A806 at the museum for years and this is a very good combination.

 

John L.


Post# 986885 , Reply# 44   3/16/2018 at 13:25 (191 days old) by realvanman (Southern California)        
Power Fin Agitator

Is this a PFA? I used to run this machine on low speed, but now I have a stuck contact set and can only run on high. I do believe that it is rough on the clothes, and already appears to have claimed one of my wife's bras. One more project to add to the mountain lol.

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Post# 986963 , Reply# 45   3/17/2018 at 08:55 (190 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)        

I have a 1972 Maytag A606, it's just like the A806 but with a few less bells and whistles. I find it's performance to be all-around excellent. It washes well, it turns the clothes over well, it extracts well, my clothes hold up well, and, of course, it's the most durable automatic washing machine ever made by anyone.

As for washing bras, they need to be put in a lingerie wash bag before being placed into any top-loading washer.


Post# 986968 , Reply# 46   3/17/2018 at 09:38 (190 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Well I have the 806s. They're safe and sound in Martins garage. More to come.

 


Post# 987145 , Reply# 47   3/18/2018 at 15:12 (189 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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They're finally in Brooklyn. Still in the truck, I'll bring them up tomorrow.

Here are some pictures taken at Martin's earlier today:

 

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We ran it without water, the panel light works, the spin works and tub brakes smoothly. John (Combo52) after examining the washer and dryer said they would need very little to bring them back into service.

 

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The dryer was hard wired, so the cord was cut. No way to check it at the moment, supposedly it works.

 

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Brooklyn bound!

 

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Post# 987164 , Reply# 48   3/18/2018 at 17:26 (189 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey)        
short stroke orbital transmission in our A806

Yeah, but unfortunately retrofitting the A806 you lose that soothing "woo-woo" agitation sound the long stroke helical trans is know for.

Sort of like putting a modern Hemi engine in a vintage Hemi Cuda.

Technically, it's still Hemi (Maytag) powered and runs great but a big part of the nostalgic value is lost.


Post# 987212 , Reply# 49   3/19/2018 at 03:17 (188 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
My mistake...

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The A806 is not a suds saver model.


Post# 987237 , Reply# 50   3/19/2018 at 09:13 (188 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, Iowa)        
Congrats!

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The lack of oil spray on the bottom side of the washer is a good sign! Clean these two up and hit up the attention list that a few of us have offered and you'll have a nice set of daily drivers on your hands.

Ben


Post# 987276 , Reply# 51   3/19/2018 at 14:38 (188 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Ben, I am really happy to have them. And a set no less!


Post# 987277 , Reply# 52   3/19/2018 at 14:41 (188 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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