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lg/kenmore front load washer extremely heavy
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Post# 986358   3/13/2018 at 00:49 (2,229 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        

Hello everybody,
I have noticed that my Kenmore/LG front load washer is EXTREMELY heavy. What is inside the washer that is extremely heavy? It's even heavier than the matching dryer, but even more so than the matching GE set I had. Is this machine full of concrete? It does a great job with its accela-wash (same as turbo-wash) feature, and when I put it in test mode, I set it to the bleach dispenser/active rinse mode and I heard how powerful the active rinse/atomizing rinse nozzle was. Very powerful at full water pressure. I had two laundry pairs prior to this one at my dad's, and this Kenmore Elite has to be the heaviest I've ever seen. Same as my mom's lg tromm. I'm sure the accela-wash has a more powerful pump, but the weight of this machine is like comparing a semi to a pickup.
What are your thoughts?
Jerome





Post# 986362 , Reply# 1   3/13/2018 at 04:46 (2,229 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Well, you are partially correct.  The counterweights inside ARE made of concrete.  Mieles and Askos have cast iron counterweights inside of them.  Talk about heavy!  My Miele is far heavier than my Asko is though.


Post# 986363 , Reply# 2   3/13/2018 at 04:58 (2,229 days old) by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
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Post# 986386 , Reply# 3   3/13/2018 at 09:21 (2,229 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
balancing system and 6motion/smart motion

What does the lg tromm/Kenmore elite front load washer's suspension have? What does it consist of? Did lg update the motor/drive system or is it still the same?
How many counterweights does the lg front loader have?


Post# 986407 , Reply# 4   3/13/2018 at 11:19 (2,229 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Speed Queen FL washers also have cast iron

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Counter balance weights in them, but CI is no heaver than concrete overall only more durable as it does not tend to crack and fall apart over time.

John L.


Post# 986420 , Reply# 5   3/13/2018 at 12:30 (2,229 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
direct drive motor and pump

How big is the direct drive motor? Did they upgrade the drive motor? How powerful is the pump? How many gallons per minute does it circulate and drain? This is especially true if the accela-wash/turbo-wash is active.

Post# 986494 , Reply# 6   3/14/2018 at 01:26 (2,228 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

LG FL'ers weigh from 202-210 pounds. My WP duet weighed at 245 pounds with the newer ones being 2 pounds less.

The motor I don't think is heavy at all as well as the pump. I think majority of the weight comes from the balancing counter weights. My Maytag Neptune MAH5500BWW is the same weight as my WP duet was, however sometimes when the machine starts spinning, the ENTIRE machine shifts, something my WP duet almost never did.


Post# 986496 , Reply# 7   3/14/2018 at 02:14 (2,228 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
pump flo rate and main pancake motor

What is the flow rate of the lg washer pump during circulation and drain? I've been looking for the flow rate but couldn't find any info on the flow rate. Did lg upgrade the pancake motor for the 6 motion? Surely they should be able to handle tough loads.

Post# 986507 , Reply# 8   3/14/2018 at 08:26 (2,228 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Oh yeah John, I forgot about SQ having cast iron weights too. 

My Miele used to try to walk a little when I first bought it, but I made a playpen for it and now it doesn't walk anymore. 


Post# 986529 , Reply# 9   3/14/2018 at 10:57 (2,228 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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If you're SO concerned about the flow rate of a circulation pump, why don't you pull it out of the machine, put it in a 5gal bucket, and time how long it takes to drain the bucket.
Do the math. You'll have your flow rate.

Only LG engineering and the motor vendor will know the flow rate.
It's inconsequential to the customer.


Post# 986530 , Reply# 10   3/14/2018 at 10:58 (2,228 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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On 2nd thought, if it's not submersible, DON'T put it in the bucket.
LOL


Post# 986533 , Reply# 11   3/14/2018 at 11:27 (2,228 days old) by leononmaui (New Egypt, New Jersey)        

I have the Kenmore Elite made by LG.
What is the test mode?


Post# 986557 , Reply# 12   3/14/2018 at 15:14 (2,228 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
test mode procedure

The test mode procedure is the hold the spin speed and soil level buttons in and hit the power button. Make sure the door is closed.

Post# 986709 , Reply# 13   3/15/2018 at 10:43 (2,227 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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HEAVY?......you don't know what heavy is!.....

until you see 4 guys trying to lift a Westinghouse slant front into a pickup....

even something like a Kenmore Belt Drive has some weight to it compared to their Direct Drive cousin....don't care how out of balance it goes, its not walking from its spot...


plus I don't know of any dryer that needed counter balance weights....


Post# 986748 , Reply# 14   3/15/2018 at 15:25 (2,227 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
heavy

My lg made Kenmore front load washer took 4 people to bring into my house. The GE was a feather compared to that.

Post# 986834 , Reply# 15   3/16/2018 at 06:53 (2,226 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)        
Heavy???

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How about a 36" (Philco-)Bendix Duomatic, comes in a back breaking almost 400lbs!

Post# 986861 , Reply# 16   3/16/2018 at 10:58 (2,226 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Heavy...

The lg front loader is the heaviest I have ever seen, but I'm sure they're machines that are even heavier than that.

Post# 1074327 , Reply# 17   5/25/2020 at 22:00 (1,424 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
thundering vibration during spin

I noticed my machine does a thundering vibration noise during high-speed spin you can hear across the house. This is true for the normal/casual, heavy-duty and whitest whites cycles, all of which I use the accelawash option.

Post# 1074460 , Reply# 18   5/27/2020 at 01:34 (1,423 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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It's important to make sure all four feet are firmly planted. On the washer, not the owner. Make sure the top of the machine is level, and that you cannot rock the machine side to side and front to back, or even diagonally.

My Neptune 7500 is essentially the same machine mechanically as the 5500, and it has never tried to walk on me. However I have noticed that the floor under it is not the same as the floor in front of it. It will rock when I pull it out of the laundry closet, but it's fine once it's back where it belongs.

Hey, it's and old house, and this is quake country.


Post# 1074542 , Reply# 19   5/27/2020 at 15:11 (1,423 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
level machine

My machine is level. FYI, have you noticed that the normal cycle is labeled different names on certain models? It still does normal tumble and high speed spin. Mine has normal/casual cycle which is the regular cottons cycle while the workout wear is a permanent press cycle which I rarely ever use.

Post# 1074551 , Reply# 20   5/27/2020 at 16:45 (1,423 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Post# 1074552 , Reply# 21   5/27/2020 at 16:45 (1,423 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Typically I only use custom cycles, or "Favorites", on my Neptune 7500.



Post# 1074573 , Reply# 22   5/27/2020 at 19:23 (1,422 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        
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Post# 1074579 , Reply# 23   5/27/2020 at 19:47 (1,422 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
normal cycle

Have you tried the cotton/sturdy AKA the normal cycle? What was the wash/spin behavior?

Post# 1074612 , Reply# 24   5/27/2020 at 22:52 (1,422 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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There is no "normal" cycle on the Neptune 7500.



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