Thread Number: 75216  /  Tag: Refrigerators
32" Wide SxS Counter Depth Fridge -- Does It Exist?
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Post# 990384   4/12/2018 at 02:38 by RP2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Today I went over to the new house to take some measurements.  Much to my dismay, the opening for the refrigerator will not accommodate our beloved 36" wide, counter depth 2009 KA Architect SxS. 


I've searched for alternative SxS counter depth boxes and there are none.  Only French door types from Samsung and Fisher/Paykel.   I'm spoiled by ice and water dispensers in the door, and by our KA's display that counts out the ounces of water dispensed.  No need for measuring cups; it's spot-on.


Is it possible to find a 32"-33" wide SxS that's counter depth in an older model?  I'd be willing to buy used if that's what has to happen.  I'm not at all thrilled to be stuck with a French door Samsung that is destined to fail or have problems sooner rather than later, but that's what's in there now.


Any suggestions on other makes I should be on the lookout for?  The ReStores around here often have orphaned late model appliances that simply weren't up to par for recent purchasers of trophy homes with money to burn on brand new kitchens, so that's where I'll start.  That's where I found our Miele dishwasher, which I am taking with us.


Ideal dimensions are 32" wide, 27" deep (not including handles), and 70" tall.

Post# 990408 , Reply# 1   4/12/2018 at 08:34 by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        

my hunch is "no", in that most if not all counter depths are wider (use up the "standard" 38" opening) to partly compensate for less depth. Some tend to be a few inches taller as well.

Post# 990413 , Reply# 2   4/12/2018 at 09:37 by aamassther (Hendersonville, NC )        
Not unless youre willing to spend...

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In our quest for a fridge to fit an exactly 36 opening, we were looking at 30 options that were also counter depth. We needed either doors that would open a true 90 deg or a 30 I found two, Liebherr and Fisher and Paykel. I believe Miele is releasing a freestanding option this month. Liebherr 30 fridges only have ice. No door dispensers either. FP, as Im sure youve read, only water in the door.
We ultimately ended up with the 36 Liebherr b/c it was a floor model and 1K off the price. Its been a great fridge so far. But, carefully measure height! We had to take the upper cabinet out.

Post# 990437 , Reply# 3   4/12/2018 at 14:04 by RP2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Thanks for the input thus far.


I can deal with only a water dispenser if I have to.  That's how I fill my coffeemaker carafe every morning.   As much as I like crushed ice for my cocktails, I can deal with crescents.  It's an excuse to hunt down a vintage ice crusher.


I'll look into the Miele, although I'm sure the price will be sky high.  I may have to put up with the Samsung for a while until this lack of options may be resolved.  I might donate our KA to the kids if the fridge opening in their kitchen is wide enough.

Post# 990453 , Reply# 4   4/12/2018 at 17:11 by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

It looks like any fridge that fits that space will be at lest 4" deeper than a counter depth unit.  GE does make a FD counter depth (GYE18JSLSS)  that fits that space with ice and water, but that is not what you are after.  Is the Samsung in the house now?

Post# 990458 , Reply# 5   4/12/2018 at 17:40 by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

I would go with the F&P although we haven't been as enamored with our Haier built one like we were with our F&P built one.

We have the large 2 door bottom freezer with water in the door (not French door). The ice is in the freezer drawer and its cubes rather than crescents. In the AU ones the Filter is wall mounted next to the tap, for us thats in the Pantry next to the fridge which works well, I can change it without pulling the fridge out.

The link I've posted is the US version of the one we ended up with.

The cabinet/Shelving etc is still made on the same equipment that was used to build them in Australia, the factory was packed up and shipped to Thailand. The cooling system/refrigerant has changed in the current generation and for the first time there's now an evaporator fan at the back to keep clean.

All in all, I would pick F&P over Samsung.


Post# 990467 , Reply# 6   4/12/2018 at 19:05 by RP2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Sorry  -- I wasn't clear about the Samsung.  Yes, it's already there so I'll use it until another option comes along or until it fails me, whichever comes first.


Here's a picture of the situation as it looks now.  Included is that wacky Gaggenau oven.   Keep in mind that these staging shots seriously skew the perspective and everything looks stretched out. 


My best guess is that the kitchen was redone in 2016 and they went ultra high-end on the oven and cooktop, but the OTR microwave is a GE, and GE is a make I'd never consider for anything anymore.  That said, when it was reviewed by CR, it was top rated by a decent margin.  That said, I lost faith in CR over 20 years ago.


Post# 990513 , Reply# 7   4/13/2018 at 06:10 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Extremely nice

kitchen and home!
Counter depth refrigerators cost a lot more. Will a Sub Zero fit? Can't cost that much more for a moderate size model. There are also other narrow depth tall column styles from Bosch, Miele, etc.

Post# 990606 , Reply# 8   4/13/2018 at 17:02 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Forget about the Miele. Most Miele's are made by Liebherr anyway and most likely the similar Liebherr will be cheaper.

Post# 990653 , Reply# 9   4/13/2018 at 22:53 by RP2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Thanks Louis.


Yesterday I went to the ridiculously high end appliance dealer nearby to try and get information on the Gaggenau Ultra Mega Deluxe Quantum Mechanics Special Edition oven (sorry, too old -- at two years or so -- for them to have any leftover promotional literature on it) and inquired about the possible Miele fridge.  The assistant didn't seem very confident that it would be hitting the market any time soon.

Post# 990664 , Reply# 10   4/14/2018 at 01:17 by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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Maybe it's time to start a refrigerator company! Imagine this interview:


Q. What inspired you to start Ralph's Refrigerator Corporation?


A. Well, I bought a new house, and couldn't find the right refrigerator. So I started a company just to make a 32" counter depth refrigerator for my house...

Post# 990673 , Reply# 11   4/14/2018 at 02:14 by RP2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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It's ridiculous, isn't it?   My '57 Combination is counter depth and only 30" wide.  A 32" counter depth SxS is entirely viable, particularly if designed for a 70" high opening. 


I can't believe the demand isn't there.  Isn't a "tiny house" craze sweeping the nation right now?  Not everybody loves a BF with French doors, particularly the ones (nearly all of them) that won't close completely without a good push, yet the marketplace is flooded with them. 



Post# 990684 , Reply# 12   4/14/2018 at 08:47 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I wonder who makes

the GE column style? I've only seen them in Canada thus far.
I guess we lucked out not having to build in our fridge. Our dining room is sunken lower than our kitchen, so we put the fridge on a wall next to the step. The exposed side has a message board, so when you walk in from the garage, you see it.
The right hand side has a coffee center next to it, and the pantry next to that.
The work triangle is rather large, with an island between the fridge, sink, and oven/range. The kitchen easily accomidates two if not three cooks in the 16 ft. by 20 ft. space.
I'd hate having to pull out the fridge every time to clean under, above, and behind it.

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