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They're Out! Miele W1 Washer and T1 Dryer
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Post# 991803   4/22/2018 at 18:20 (181 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Post# 991812 , Reply# 1   4/22/2018 at 19:42 (181 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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They look like the white versions of the upcoming new Whirlpool front loaders.  Remind me of extra wide white sidewall ties. 

Post# 991832 , Reply# 2   4/23/2018 at 00:42 (181 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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They look kind of like Asko's new washers too.

ASKO - W2084W - Front Load Washing MachinesMiele - 11WF0605USA - Front Load Washing Machines

              Asko                             Miele

Post# 991867 , Reply# 3   4/23/2018 at 10:40 (180 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

Very nice, but at $3,600.00 a pair, I will hold back for now.

Post# 991889 , Reply# 4   4/23/2018 at 14:01 (180 days old) by jerrod6 (United States of America)        

If my current Miele W1986 washer stops working I will get the top of the line model, but not the dryer. I don't mind having a dryer of another brand, plus I use natural gas to dry my clothes so an electric or heat pump dryer is not attractive to me.

Post# 991905 , Reply# 5   4/23/2018 at 17:01 (180 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Have nil interest in T1 dryer

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But should a W1 washer pop up at some point in future (used), and at an attractive price, that would be another matter. Especially if by then Big Bertha (Miele W1070) has packed it in.

Will be interesting to see how well these Miele heat pump dryers sell in USA. This and hearing real world reviews from actual owners. Fact that ABT seems to only have the W1 washers in stock while dryers are "special order" (IIRC) is telling. Perhaps they don't want to be saddled with inventory that cannot be moved.

Am not entirely sure, but IIRC these heat pump dryers have a definite lifespan. Maybe something to do with the refrigerant system? In any event once whatever triggers the dryer to be then be no longer useable it must be discarded. Suppose this is like air conditioners, refrigerators and other similar appliances that use condenser systems with chemical refrigerant.

OTOH vented and some vented dryers can (and have) lasted decades, and then can be repaired (assuming parts are still found) to go several more.

Post# 991943 , Reply# 6   4/24/2018 at 07:39 by henene4 (Germany)        
Definite lifespan

Anything has a finite lifespan, period.

Heatpump dryers have 2 major limitations to their lifespan:

1. If anything about the refrigiration system goes wrong, repairing is costineffective. That however is verry rare.

2. By design, you can't remove the condenser to clean it. Thus these have a quite elaborate filtration. If you don't take proper care, the condenser will clogg and the dryer will slow down to the point of unusability.
Mieles system is pretty good both in terms of ease of maintanance and longlivety.

Post# 991976 , Reply# 7   4/24/2018 at 14:22 by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey)        

Have to say, I'm not a fan! They look like all the other plastic crap out there, even though they'll be better-built than most. Are the classic-styled Little Giant machines still in production? Stick with those while you can!

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