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Thread Number: 75555
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
SQ TR7, TR5 & TR3 Verified glowing reviews |
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Post# 993744 , Reply# 1 5/10/2018 at 11:07 (2,170 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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New 2018 SQ TL Washer Reviews
Hi mtn 1584, Let me get straight you have two people you know that got this new washer and don't like the cleaning performance and yet you are defending this machine based on reviews from people you don't know. Neither of us can confirm these on line reviews.
Yes I was one of the first to sound the alarm about this new washer, but gives me no satisfaction in being right as this change has affected me in a negative way more than any other person on this site. By this time last year we had sold more than 20 SQ TL washers, this year so far we have only sold two of the new machines so far, that equals a financial loss to us of around $4,500.00 and counting, but you can,t change the facts, we are hopping they are working on a redesign fix for this unfortunate product design problem. | ||
| Post# 993759 , Reply# 2 5/10/2018 at 12:09 (2,170 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
 I guess I'm as guilty as the next person in contributing to the Speed Queen "Hoopla"... but in reality all that's needed is to pop several of these pills and then check out any real (not animated) video.
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| Post# 993767 , Reply# 4 5/10/2018 at 12:42 (2,170 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
the choice of a washer depends on 1 needs and daily use | ||
| Post# 993775 , Reply# 6 5/10/2018 at 13:55 (2,170 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
Speed Queen is absolutely being treated as a religion here by some.
It's hilarious. Just because they're made in a WI factory by Americans, doesn't mean I'm obliged to buy junk. Besides this is ONE bad washer line, out of multiples of dozens of perfectly good product lines Alliance has. They'll be fine. And if they're smart, they'll fix this one junky washer line. | ||
| Post# 993790 , Reply# 7 5/10/2018 at 15:25 (2,170 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
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| Post# 993801 , Reply# 8 5/10/2018 at 16:34 (2,170 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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Johnb, junk? Do you even own one? The whirlpool cabrio is junk. "Hindenburg had good reviews" so reviews dont matter? But you think consumer reports and cnet are credible reviews 😂 consumer reports also said the dependable care maytags were poor washers 😂. Biased much. | ||
| Post# 993830 , Reply# 9 5/10/2018 at 21:25 (2,169 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
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Glowing reviews from the manufacturer's site... No surprise there. And the Hindenberg's reviews were really glowing at the end...touche' Iheartmaytag.
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| Post# 993833 , Reply# 10 5/10/2018 at 21:50 (2,169 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
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Thanks Joe | ||
| Post# 993834 , Reply# 11 5/10/2018 at 22:02 (2,169 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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| Post# 993839 , Reply# 12 5/10/2018 at 23:25 (2,169 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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And some people think highly of a new cabrio. | ||
| Post# 993840 , Reply# 13 5/10/2018 at 23:27 (2,169 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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This is not from speed queens website.
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Post# 993847 , Reply# 16 5/11/2018 at 02:59 (2,169 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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@Infusor
What changed your opinion so radically?
In this thread you were rather negative and also came with evidence that Speed Queen removed negative reviews. www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... | ||
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Post# 993849 , Reply# 17 5/11/2018 at 05:07 (2,169 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 sq9series: You mentioned that the new washer had fair cleaning performance using the heavy duty cycle. However, I don't believe that is an apples to apples comparison to the F&P machine. The F&P machine scored fair using the normal/EPA cycle which likely used reduced water at a cooler temperature.F&P's WashSmart model is a low-temperature agitator machine via the Eco Smart design but it is not low-water (thus the Allergy cycle can provides a full-to-the-top tap-hot fill). The AquaSmart models are low-water, impeller machines. | ||
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Post# 993851 , Reply# 18 5/11/2018 at 05:49 (2,169 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 993858 , Reply# 19 5/11/2018 at 08:36 (2,169 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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It could be "cognitive dissonance"..
See, I did learn something in psychology class!. What I mean is someone who has spent at lot of money on a SQ (I can't believe a top loader is over $1000) who thought they were getting the best cannot "admit to themselves" that they "made a mistake". IF a consumer told everybody they know that they are buying the best TL washer on Earth, it is human nature to be reluctant to admit you made the mistake of buying what looks like a "clothes swimming pool" that does not clean the clothes. Cognitive dissonance happens in issues like racism so it's understandable it would occur with washing machines too. CD might also explain why SQ management does not want to change the machine, it would be admitting a mistake.
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Post# 993882 , Reply# 21 5/11/2018 at 14:29 (2,169 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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It is not apples to apples The SQ can't clean any better, it's its most intensive cycle. The F&P is doing that on its Normal cycle, it still has at least 2 cycles that would clean even better. | ||
| Post# 993883 , Reply# 22 5/11/2018 at 14:48 (2,169 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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YES IT IS!!!!!! Cycle time temp everything is the same, do you not have common sense?? There is a cycle on the tr7 called max soil, it has an even longer wash time AND a soak period. You do not know what you are talking about. | ||
| Post# 993884 , Reply# 23 5/11/2018 at 14:58 (2,169 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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| Post# 993891 , Reply# 25 5/11/2018 at 15:55 (2,169 days old) by potatochips ( ) | ||
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No one is saying SQ as a whole is the modern day WCI, that all of their products are junk. Were just saying their top loaders are junk. Front loaders are still cool with us. | ||
| Post# 993896 , Reply# 26 5/11/2018 at 17:39 (2,169 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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If it was truely just about "cleaning results" then you shouldn't like alot of vintage machines then. Belt drive kenmore with the pentaswirl agitator. It does not remove stains that well. It is junk. | ||
| Post# 993897 , Reply# 27 5/11/2018 at 17:48 (2,169 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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All stains left after washing. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Infusor's LINK | ||
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Post# 993900 , Reply# 28 5/11/2018 at 18:35 (2,168 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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I told you! I told you it doesn't work! | ||
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Post# 993915 , Reply# 30 5/11/2018 at 21:20 (2,168 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland ) |
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I’m a “social media detractor” lol | ||
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Post# 993916 , Reply# 31 5/11/2018 at 21:23 (2,168 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland ) |
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In all seriousness, I did all of my testing with the heavy duty cycle. I never used the normal cycle ever. | ||
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Post# 993917 , Reply# 32 5/11/2018 at 21:26 (2,168 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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I hope... they improve their wash action, period. | ||
| Post# 993918 , Reply# 33 5/11/2018 at 21:40 (2,168 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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You received this letter?
Does that mean you are a Speed Queen Dealer?
There was a man on this forum who immediately after purchasing liked it and after using it for a couple months has now changed his mind, This post was last edited 05/11/2018 at 22:29 | ||
| Post# 993919 , Reply# 34 5/11/2018 at 21:42 (2,168 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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Funny how nobody wants to comment on how the 2017 speed queen left behind most stains according to reviewed.com. | ||
| Post# 993920 , Reply# 35 5/11/2018 at 21:54 (2,168 days old) by sq9series (seattle) | ||
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On 2-9-18, Infusor made a one sentence post stating: "Anybody that thinks that the 2018 speed queen cleans good has very low standards." | ||
| Post# 993922 , Reply# 36 5/11/2018 at 22:24 (2,168 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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That was in reference to eugenes video. Then i saw other videos (not pre production machine) and realized it was quite good. Hos machine can't even move around 5 pairs of dickies, yet kirks moves around 5 pairs of jeans like crazy. | ||
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Post# 993923 , Reply# 37 5/11/2018 at 22:45 (2,168 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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speed queen... needs to improve on their entire wash system. | ||
| Post# 993924 , Reply# 38 5/11/2018 at 22:49 (2,168 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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What about reviewed.coms review on the 2017 speed queen not removing stains?? | ||
| Post# 993927 , Reply# 40 5/11/2018 at 23:12 (2,168 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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So you are all about "results" when it comes to the 2018 but the 2017 results mean nothing. | ||
| Post# 993931 , Reply# 42 5/11/2018 at 23:43 (2,168 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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That's my point! According to reviewed.com the 2017 did not do well eather. | ||
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Post# 993932 , Reply# 43 5/11/2018 at 23:45 (2,168 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Again, Again, you clearly don't understand everyone else's point or my own. | ||
| Post# 993933 , Reply# 44 5/11/2018 at 23:49 (2,168 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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Your point is ignore the facts about the 2017. Because you are biased thats why. | ||
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Post# 993939 , Reply# 46 5/12/2018 at 02:21 (2,168 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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heavy duty If available, you should use the heavy-duty cycle, which is the real normal cycle for speed queen. | ||
| Post# 993950 , Reply# 48 5/12/2018 at 07:12 (2,168 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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if you where to buy a sdpeed queen today? | ||
| Post# 993951 , Reply# 49 5/12/2018 at 07:45 (2,168 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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Vintage!!! | ||
| Post# 993969 , Reply# 51 5/12/2018 at 09:33 (2,168 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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Post# 993982 , Reply# 54 5/12/2018 at 12:30 (2,168 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Most people are buying SQ because of the reputation the name has. for decades making excellent washers. | ||
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Post# 993989 , Reply# 57 5/12/2018 at 13:31 (2,168 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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correction *started replying on this thread | ||
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Post# 993990 , Reply# 58 5/12/2018 at 13:33 (2,168 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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With such a belligerent tone right out of the gate I agree that threads such as this need their own forum for this sort of angry bickering, perhaps an annex like, Dirty Laundry That Won't Come Clean.
I have no skin in this game. I am not a SQ TL fan, period. Not even 2017 and older. I had a Raytheon Amana for nine years, and I learned my lesson.
As for bashing people on this forum who state flatly that vintage top loaders are better than anything new, well, the home page here clearly explains why that should come as no surprise. Of the non-pay forums, Deluxe sees the least traffic by a wide margin. | ||
| Post# 993997 , Reply# 59 5/12/2018 at 14:44 (2,168 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
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A new prescription from Dr. Twintub... Obviously me and my "bocca grande" (big mouth) made a mistake suggesting those common sense pills. Take these instead...
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Post# 994001 , Reply# 60 5/12/2018 at 15:13 (2,168 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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the new sq washer sounds... The new sq washer sounds like robots swimming in water on a beach somewhere. | ||
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Post# 994002 , Reply# 61 5/12/2018 at 15:40 (2,168 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Re: Reply #59
Good idea Joe! But in light of the intensity of some of the exchanges perhaps an IV drip of Antivan might be more in order.
Holy Mackerel! They are just washing machines for Christs Sake! Now I know the premise of this website is primarily devoted to the interest and love of these machines, but get a grip! Everyone has there own likes, dislikes and expectations for their washing machines. One mans poison is another mans treasure. It servers no purpose to denagrate others for their opinions, other than to create ill will. There is quite enough of that to go around in our country and world right now. It might be best to try and get along, live and let live, wash and let wash. That’s just my two cents worth. Eddie | ||
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Post# 994006 , Reply# 62 5/12/2018 at 16:12 (2,168 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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Why? Why can't we all just get along? | ||
| Post# 994016 , Reply# 63 5/12/2018 at 18:29 (2,167 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK) | ||
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One reason the GTW330ASKWW gets a pass is it regularly costs about half of the new SQ machine. It also will go on sale for significantly less than that, whereas SQ machines never seem to go on sale appreciably. Cost is a factor, but so to is expectation. A lot of people here loved the old SQ TL machine, despite it's many short comings. So then SQ "improves" it, jacks up the price, but takes away the very quality people loved about the old one (besides a substantial metal cabinet), it's ability to wash dirty cloths clean vigorously, using lots of water. The amount of water stayed the same (I guess), however SQ only made a nod in the "vigorous" direction by using an agitator instead of a wash plate...it would appear to not have fooled many here. I too essentially lack a dog in this hunt, no sleep lost. So unlike some disgruntled former fans, I will no doubt be happy to someday buy the new SQ machine --USED-- at a far lower price point. That said, like Bill Clinton, I feel their pain ;-] | ||
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Post# 994019 , Reply# 64 5/12/2018 at 18:43 (2,167 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA) |
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| Post# 994044 , Reply# 65 5/13/2018 at 01:45 (2,167 days old) by Infusor (Usa) | ||
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Yes he did put the detergent into the fabric softener dispenser. No wonder these machines get "poor results" | ||
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Post# 994048 , Reply# 68 5/13/2018 at 06:14 (2,167 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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| Post# 994049 , Reply# 69 5/13/2018 at 06:19 (2,167 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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What I am saying is, "Forget Speed Queen altogether." They decided to stop producing domestic front-loaders, and they've ruined their top-loaders. So now is the time to jump ship to other brands. Simples. | ||
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Post# 994058 , Reply# 70 5/13/2018 at 09:12 (2,167 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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This is just plain silly. Those defending the 2018 Speed Queen are just sailing their barges down the river de'nial. Whilst watching the villagers wash their clothes CLEANER on the banks than their piece of ill-conceived machinery will ever get them.
Look - we all have our loves and passions. I happen to prefer thumpers (especially in PANK!) to anything else. I am not, however, going to pretend that they aren't just as good at tangling sheets (yes, dahlinks, I do the four zones) as they are at washing - and nothing washes cleaner.
So, come on SQ apologists - you're just hurting your case by telling the rest of us (and the independent testers) we don't know what we're talking about. You sound like corporate shills. Perhaps you are?
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Post# 994069 , Reply# 72 5/13/2018 at 12:28 (2,167 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Post# 994072 , Reply# 73 5/13/2018 at 12:39 (2,167 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Bob, | ||
| Post# 997758 , Reply# 75 6/19/2018 at 18:06 (2,130 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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Speed Queen always terrible, I beg to differ The 50s/60s solid tub models washed quite well, actually. Even Consumer Reports said that they washed well at the time. Maytag was the anemic one with only 180 degree arc and slower agitation, little turn over when loaded to capacity, The agitator wasn't suited to the narrow, tall tub of an automatic, especially the large capacity "deep tub" models. While I have never used a solid tub SQ, I have owned a Maytag A207(just got rid of it, actually) and presently have a GE FilterFlo in service as a secondary(classic & fun) machine, the FF cleans better than the 'Tag and our modern SQ is on par with either.
The semi-modern "Raytheon" models are quite good machines, they only index for maybe a week after purchase. That is what ours did. It has good turn-over unless you really overload it. The wavy "Flex-Vane" agitator works quite well. We like it far better than the Roper DD machine it replaced. | ||
| Post# 997761 , Reply# 76 6/19/2018 at 18:11 (2,129 days old) by wft2800 (Leatherhead, Surrey) | ||
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True, the Maytags are a bit sensitive to overloading, but as long as you don't... and with the perforated tubs, they extract and rinse better. The modern SQs always index even after multiple years in service unless you go very easy on loadings... | ||
| Post# 997766 , Reply# 77 6/19/2018 at 18:34 (2,129 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit) | ||
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| Post# 997784 , Reply# 78 6/19/2018 at 20:07 (2,129 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
Here is the thing about a Speed Queen solid tub washer...I know because my parents had two of them when I was growing up and I was doing the laundry...even way back then. Yes they did wash quite well , but thats where it ends. Capacity was lacking and doing laundry for 7 people was alot of work with this washer...like 2 plus loads a day. I once decided to just do laundry once a week and when you have 7 people...5 kids and 2 parents...I was doing laundry all day long on Saturdays. Like 14 loads straight, from dawn til dusk.
Water use was eye opening considering how small an "extra Capacity" solid tub was at the time. Extraction of said water from the load left alot to be desired especially from the bottom of the tub. Now if you have a plugged Ejector tube, like I had toward the end of this washer's life, Sand has nowhere to go and detergent residue stayed right at the bottom of the tub. I was using a vacuum cleaner to suck up the powder residue. I put up with alot with this washer. When my parents replaced this washer with a Maytag A510 back in 1984, talk about an upgrade. Capacity was outstanding compared to the thimble sized wash tub of the SQ. Never had residue and the washer extracted better than the SQ, plus it used water more efficiently. I even saw that clothes were cleaner coming from the Maytag and lint free. If a Maytag washer is loaded loosely to the top row of holes in the washbasket, there is no issue with rollover, or lack of rollover. The 510 and my beloved 613 were all good turnover machines. | ||
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