Thread Number: 75627
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Why I still really hate Apple Products... |
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Post# 994419 , Reply# 1   5/17/2018 at 03:42 (2,142 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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I have an iPhone 5, only because it was given to me. I have an older iPad (don't know what version), only because it was given to me. I use it only for Pandora and occasionally the thermostat app for work (for the larger screen) which can't be updated to the latest version because the OS is too old and can't be updated any further. I once in a while back-up the phone to iTunes but I don't use any cloud services. Neither of them have "find my [device]" activated. I vaguely recall the iPad threw up the activate thing several months ago. I don't recall how I got around it, power-cycle maybe. |
Post# 994428 , Reply# 2   5/17/2018 at 09:20 (2,142 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 994429 , Reply# 3   5/17/2018 at 09:51 (2,142 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)   |   | |
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I have a 4S phone issued to me by work (medical) which I never use. When I tried to return it, they didn't even want it back. I use my own Samsung Galaxy phone for work purposes. |
Post# 994430 , Reply# 4   5/17/2018 at 10:01 (2,142 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I love my ipad, but I don’t like icloud and I don’t use it. To me its an unnecessary hassle. And I make sure that I have ALL my Apple passwords written down on a piece of paper,even the old ones, with the dates that they became effective and I keep all my computer info in a manilla envelope where I can find it if needed, and it’s sure come in handy. Also, be sure to record your security code answers and be sure to specify whether upper or lower case letters, if you use any deviation it will be rejected.
I’m sorry you had so much of a hassle Matt, I’d be righteously pissed off too is I’d gone thru the same mess you did. I’ve had trouble with software updates taking away features that I’ve grown fond of, so now before I ever install an update I Google the update to see if there are any problems/changes that I need to be aware for first. It has saved me having problems that I didn’t expect. I’ve had an Apple computer or tablet since 2003 and have always been happy with the reliability of the products and the excellent tech help from Apple support. Like everthing else, its a matter of personal preference and what you have gotten used to using. Eddie This post was last edited 05/17/2018 at 12:33 |
Post# 994436 , Reply# 5   5/17/2018 at 11:03 (2,141 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 994444 , Reply# 6   5/17/2018 at 12:50 (2,141 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I'm among those who are bewildered that anyone thinks Apple products are user-friendly. They sell you a product and then turn you loose with a device that offers no prompts or information to guide you through set up and general use. They instead want you to come back to the store and take a class. At least with MSDOS you can dig around and usually learn things or resolve problems yourself.
We have two iPads. One I bought for Dave because I thought it would be easier for him to use than his Toshiba laptop. It's not. And just recently the screen started reverting to wallpaper (no icons/apps) while you're on line. Over and over. We just close the thing up and forget about it when that happens.
Since I'm currently between laptops, I needed something portable back when I didn't own a smart phone, so I bought a good used iPad that was part of a batch they were selling off as surplus from a college prep school where a friend of mine used to teach. It was worth $150 just to see if I could master "The Apple Way" (sincere apologies to Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard for my vulgar hijacking of their honorable philosophical term). A couple of years later I'm still trying.
I have absolutely no use for Apple anything. I'll never buy another Apple product. Everything about their OS and GUI sucks. I maintain that Steve Jobs was the worst thing to ever happen to the computer industry and hold him responsible for the disappearance of normal social interaction the world over (starting at a very young age) as well as creating a global addiction problem, and I've had a lot of people, including many in the media, agree with me. |
Post# 994449 , Reply# 8   5/17/2018 at 13:50 (2,141 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I learned to use a computer at work on Windows in the early 90’s and thats all I used until I finally broke down and bought a computer for home in 2003. A coworker suggested that I get an Apple because they were supposed to be less prone to virus attacks. I was leary going to a new system, but bought an iMac anyway. I found the transition very easy. I never took any classes from Apple, just learned as I went along and also looked up answers to my questions online or using Help on the iMac. This comupter was in use for 7 years without a single problem, then it finally just got tired and needed replacement. So we got a Macbook in 2010 and this has also been great, although 2 years ago we did have to have the hard drive cable replaced.
I got my iPad in 2014 and I use it exclusively now, with a Logitech keboard cover. David uses the MacBook mostly, I use the Macbook to do our taxes and when I need to do any word processing with Pages. David had no computer experience when we got the first iMac in 2003 and he picked it up quickly, with no problems. I really believe it’s all what you get used to and what your comfortable using. I can switch back and forth between Apple and Windows, but I prefer Apple, especially my iPad. As to the problems you are having with the screen going to wallpaper while your using it, try Googling your problem and I can almost guarantee that you will find an easy solution to this annoying problem. Offhand, I would try doing a hard restart by holding down the power button until it shuts down, then hold it down again until the Apple comes on the screen and restarts. This may be all it needs. Eddie |
Post# 994454 , Reply# 9   5/17/2018 at 14:58 (2,141 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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I really believe it’s all what you get used to and what your comfortable using. I can switch back and forth between Apple and Windows, but I prefer Apple, especially my iPad.
There's truth in that.
Being honest, I have to say that the best OS I've used for user friendliness was (for me) either System 6 or System 7 for the Macintosh. Part of my view is simply that I was used to the Macintosh--my first computer was a Macintosh running System 6--but I think the OS was well designed for the user. I really self taught myself--no class at the computer store, apart from a "quick start" session with a salesman. The rest was by using, exploring, and help from one book and the manuals. It helped that I was comfortable with technology, and I enjoyed playing with the computer.
That said...in today's world I have no trouble using, at least on a basic level, a variety of systems. And, for me, it's not going between Apple and Windows. I now run Linux as my "modern" OS, and the GUI can vary wildly system to system. I have little trouble adapting. And I could probably see things I like with one approach, and don't like with another.
I have only minimal experience with modern Apple. But I have no trouble with casually playing with iPads and iPhones on display at Target. Up to about six months ago, I had an old, infrequently used Mac running OS X 10.6 "Snow Leopard". I still have an old, seldom used Power Macintosh G4 with OS X 10.2 "Jaguar". I have no troubles with OS X. (Even 10.2, which adds complexity in that it also has Classic Mode, which runs OS 9, which is different from OS X, inside of OS X to support older software).
There have been times I've thought of going back to Apple. I see some pluses (including better range of word processors--a big deal for me). But other issues stop me. One of the biggest problems with Apple: the cost of buying into Apple. One huge plus with Linux: it can run on a used computer that I can buy for next to nothing.
I also have had no problems with using Windows. I never used Windows 8, which everyone apparently hated, but I was able to use it well enough to play with laptops on display in a store.
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Post# 994457 , Reply# 11   5/17/2018 at 15:36 (2,141 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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There will always been user issues with any device, gosh knows I have had my share of problems like this over they years.
Overall I have been extraordinarily pleased with all my Apple products, and I was a hard core anti-Apple guy for decades. I have yet to have a single failure on anything yet aside from battery replacements. My oldest brother even continues to use an original iPad to this day, I am floored it still works just fine. If I contrast my Apple experience against my Microsoft/Android experience the Apple systems have been so much more trouble free. I will admit I'm not as pleased with some of the most recent changes Apple has made to their computer products. But out of 36 years of owning a personal computer, my 2011 MacBook Pro is without a doubt the best piece of computer hardware I have ever used/owned. |
Post# 994484 , Reply# 13   5/17/2018 at 20:00 (2,141 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 994494 , Reply# 14   5/17/2018 at 21:33 (2,141 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 994495 , Reply# 15   5/17/2018 at 22:38 (2,141 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 994517 , Reply# 19   5/18/2018 at 08:07 (2,141 days old) by joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 994521 , Reply# 20   5/18/2018 at 09:01 (2,141 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)   |   | |
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This AM the tablet keeps asking me to log in, again. First time got"unknown error", then it took the password. Rebooted, I'll see how thing progress. |
Post# 994529 , Reply# 21   5/18/2018 at 11:32 (2,140 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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You know Matt I was just thinking, if you don’t want to use iCloud you don’t have to log in with your password, you should just be able to log on with your numeric passcode on the touch screen. I found that logging into iCloud was just to much of a problem. I don’t use iCloud, and I don’t want to deal with all the extra entries that are prompted with iCloud in use. If you are already logged on to iCloud, and you don’t want to use it, go the the top field in settings and just log out of iCloud. Your iPad will work just fine without it, trust me. And this will probably help you avoid any future problems like you had the other day.
I personally don’t want all my info in the “cloud”. And whenever you install uodates and you are prompted to set up iCloud, just select skip this step, or emaybe later, whateevrerr the choice that is offered to proceed. You can always set up, or shut down iCloud at a leter date by going into the settings menu and following the prompts, its easy peasy. HTH, Eddie |
Post# 994544 , Reply# 22   5/18/2018 at 14:32 (2,140 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn)   |   | |
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Unfortunatly for me a guy I dated went from an Helio to an iPhone3 so I switched from a Trac-Fone to a 3 also. After owning a 3, 4, 5S,and now 6S for 2.5 years I still say Apple sux bawls. Im looking into getting an iPod for my music and the next phone will be a Galaxy from now on. These phones all were great the first 4 months then slowed down or didnt work properly with all the updates that took up space. Apple can kiss my lilly white ass!!
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Post# 994681 , Reply# 25   5/19/2018 at 23:27 (2,139 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)   |   | |
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As a confirmed tweaker, I have found no reason or issue to tweak anything on my android phone or various tablets. They just work. I'd like to know what is being tweaked that require so much effort. |
Post# 994705 , Reply# 27   5/20/2018 at 10:13 (2,139 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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I have all Apple products: two older iPads, two MacBooks, one Pro one Air and two iPhones. Mine is a 7 and my son's is a 6+. We've had a couple of lower-end Windows laptops, but they just didn't last like the Apple stuff.
I'm hard on my phone, carry it all day in my pocket paired with AirPod earphones playing podcasts, audiobooks, etc. It's dropped rather frequently from sheer carelessness and circumstance. I have no doubt each tumble takes it toll in the long run but with a good case and lots of luck, it's holding up for now. I've had pretty good luck with the sometimes condescending minions at the Apple store, but usually get things straightened out if I have a problem, a rare occasion over the 10 years of iPhone/Apple patronage. I honestly have not explored the other phone options out there, it's easy to always buy what you're familiar with and while not perfect, works as you expect it to. Kind of like Maytag washers in the 70's & 80's. |