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Out with the old, in with the new, new washer and dryer
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Post# 994599   5/19/2018 at 04:08 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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The Siemens washing machine started to get a bit noisy on the spin cycle, it sounded much like the bearings started to get worse. So it was time to treat myself to a new washer and a new dryer. A new dryer too because modern heat pump dryers are way more efficient than the Miele condenser dryer.

Here's a picture of the new and one of the old set.

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Post# 994600 , Reply# 1   5/19/2018 at 04:34 by gorenje (Slovenia)        

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Hi Louis,

I'm glad for you. It's always a pleasure to have a new "toy".

Good choice! Is this model of washer also a i-dose?


Post# 994605 , Reply# 2   5/19/2018 at 06:32 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Hi Ingemar,

Thank you! No, this is not an i-dos machine. I didn't want that, I use too many different detergents and often a powder. I prefer the classic detergent drawer with three compartments for prewash, main wash and softener.

Post# 994623 , Reply# 3   5/19/2018 at 11:33 by appnut (TX)        

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Luigi, very nice looking set and a Miele.  You'll have to let us now how you get on with the heat pump dryer. 

Post# 994626 , Reply# 4   5/19/2018 at 11:48 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Too bad,

your Siemens was an attractive set, but, Miele is known to have the longest lasting bearings, today at least in their most expensive washers.
I hope My Maytag Bravos X liquid silver color washer lasts another year or two.
Looks nice, but had a bearing and gear case job under extended warranty winter 2015. Was new in December 2010.

Post# 994635 , Reply# 5   5/19/2018 at 12:50 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Just for the record, the first picture is of the new matching Siemens set, the second picture of the old Siemens washer and the old Miele dryer. I guess it wasn't a good idea to post the picture of the new set first. lol

Post# 994640 , Reply# 6   5/19/2018 at 13:39 by appnut (TX)        

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Thank you for the clarification.  Nice looking set.  I guess this is the new "style" for front loaders.  Kind of reminds me of the new Mieles as well as the white color models of the impending Whirlpool front loaders.  Kind of reminds me of Bendix washers. 

Post# 994644 , Reply# 7   5/19/2018 at 14:29 by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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The control looks simple...just one knob I can see.  How does it work?

Post# 994654 , Reply# 8   5/19/2018 at 17:31 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Besides the control there is a on and off button in the middle. But both the washer and the dryer also have a touch screen. I will make pictures of that later.

Post# 994655 , Reply# 9   5/19/2018 at 17:47 by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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Ah, I see.  A phone-like touchscreen?


As this becomes the norm it would be great if we had full program control to make our own custom cycles.


Unfortunately I could picture Whirlpool doing the opposite, displaying pictures of "towels" or "jeans" and just having the user touch the picture and the machine does the rest.

Post# 994675 , Reply# 10   5/19/2018 at 22:25 by Whatsername (Loveland, CO)        

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Looks nice! Is the dryer door reversible?

Post# 994676 , Reply# 11   5/19/2018 at 22:47 by peteski50 (New York)        
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Louis Best Of Luck with this beautiful new set!
Best Wishes,

Post# 994687 , Reply# 12   5/20/2018 at 03:23 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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No, the dryer door is not reversible.

Here are pictures of the displays. The selected option is bright, if you can change it is still visible, if you can't change it anymore, then the options disappear totally from the screen. You can still change the extra rinse option, even when rinsing has started. In the first picture you can see that the temperature can't be changed anymore.

A heatpump dryer has longer cycles but it's very energy efficient. The dryer draws max. 800 Watts, that means that I can run the washer and the dryer on one 16 Amps 230 Volts circuit.

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Post# 994700 , Reply# 13   5/20/2018 at 08:43 by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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Thanks for the pictures, I like the blue, very nice.  What are the two five-segment bar graphs for?

Post# 994702 , Reply# 14   5/20/2018 at 09:57 by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Very nice looking set, Louis. Is this your only set or did you keep any of the others you had in your previous apartment?

Post# 994706 , Reply# 15   5/20/2018 at 10:30 by appnut (TX)        

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Very nice Luigi!!  Very happy for you!!

Post# 994709 , Reply# 16   5/20/2018 at 11:35 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Thanks guys!

The 2 x 5 segments are an indication of how much electricity and water the machine will use ranging from 1 to 5.

This is now the only set in use. I kept the LG Turbodrum and the little AEG H-axis toploader. The LG is in the bathroom, I have tried to hook it up, but a special connector I bought doesn't fit. I had planned to hook it up on the faucet of the bathtub, but it just didn't work. Will look into that matter sometime, but I'm not in a hurry.

So far I'm happy too. It can use lots of water if necessary and can be economical when desired. Cycle times are longer than the previous Siemens, but there are some short options available. Shortest cycle is 15 minutes with one wash and two rinses.

Post# 994719 , Reply# 17   5/20/2018 at 14:26 by splittub (Europe)        

Nice machines. In which countries were they manufactured?

Post# 994723 , Reply# 18   5/20/2018 at 14:46 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Actually I have no idea where these were made. There is no "Made in Germany" label on them, so probably in another country. BSH opened two new factories in Poland, so perhaps there?

Post# 994729 , Reply# 19   5/20/2018 at 15:43 by splittub (Europe)        

I think the country of manufacture is printed on a label on the back of the machines.

Post# 994730 , Reply# 20   5/20/2018 at 16:02 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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That will stay an open question then.

Post# 994769 , Reply# 21   5/20/2018 at 23:34 by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        


Post# 994774 , Reply# 22   5/21/2018 at 02:37 by gorenje (Slovenia)        
"I use too many different detergents and often a powder.

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I couldn't agree more ! :-) I wouldn't like to have an auto-dosing machine either.

Very good looking set

Post# 994778 , Reply# 23   5/21/2018 at 06:08 by logixx (Germany)        

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Very nice! I see this is one of the new units that allow access to the condenser. (Pics, please) 😁

Post# 994849 , Reply# 24   5/21/2018 at 18:32 by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)        

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I believe we make the washers is Germany and Poland and the dryers in Poland. We have a very similar version here in the US, tho the Siemens name is now gone in the US.

Post# 995608 , Reply# 25   5/30/2018 at 04:34 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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I made a few short videos, first is one shows the water level in one of the rinses in the Hygiene cycle. Second video shows the dryer with the heat pump on.

Post# 995610 , Reply# 26   5/30/2018 at 05:13 by MrAlex (London, UK)        

What a nice setup! Congrats! :)

Post# 995785 , Reply# 27   5/31/2018 at 05:44 by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

Congratulations, Louis. It's always fun to get a new laundry pair. Thanks for the photos and videos--they are a fine-looking set with all the right features. Wishing you many trouble-free loads of laundry!

Post# 996295 , Reply# 28   6/5/2018 at 15:50 by rapunzel (Sydney)        
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