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Post# 995969   6/2/2018 at 06:54 by potatochips (Nova Scotia)        

I had a thought the other night, I thought about all the engineers, designers, repairmen, advertisers, and anyone who had their hand in the appliance business. I wonder what they would all think if they saw what we do? What we appreciate.


All the engineers who designed the BD WP, FF, Maytags, the transmissions and suspensions etc... The designers who were responsible for the centre dial Maytags, the piano key Kenmore, garage door Kenmores, Brady bunch WPs, 1-18s, Ultramatics. Repairmen who would see our hard work and intimate knowledge of these machines. The advertisers who made ads like the talking GE 2800, or Maytag letter campaign. I wonder what they would think and feel if they saw their design still working, and admired. I know some of these people are probably long since passed.


And sometimes modded thanks to Martins super belt drive. Or the fill flume on GEs flipped inside and out.


I sure hope these people that had intimate inside knowledge of this world know what they have done for us. Provided us with a fascination, a network of friends, a hobby, and sometimes a lifestyle. We have a unique world here on this forum.


Is there anyone on the forum that has worked for any manufacturer?

Post# 995981 , Reply# 1   6/2/2018 at 12:10 by thomasortega (Los Angeles - CA)        

I do!

And AWO is an endless source of knowledge.

It's impossible to design a "good" appliance if we don't listen to the most important engineer, the consumer, and here at AWO we can find the high knowledge consumers that have the common sense when using an appliance. Then it's easier to just add the "dumb proof" features.

And I've been doing this since years ago, when I discovered this website while working at Electrolux.

In our "world" everybody knows each other, even who works for competitor companies. We're very close, different from what others may think. One of my best friends works at Brastemp (Whirlpool in Brazil) and we openly help each other when we have any difficulty designing something, even being "the worst competitor" that consumers may think we hate each other.

And we all share the same thinking. AWO is a wonderful source of knowledge, specially hystorical knowledge.

Most engineers and designers related to companies don't post here. They just watch silently because of companies internet privacy internal rules.

The company I work for is different, we can share some information and the company even encourages me to do that. I usually post something before I start a project and again when the product is almost ready, to double check if there is anything else I can add to the product.

Examples on how AWO helped on the company's decisions are:

1) Scaw2gen with germicidal UV light
2) Project Ventura (when I saw the huge talk about the 2018 speed queen, I realized it was the perfect timing to release a full size washer with less bells and whistles and focused on high water level, a "normal" old school agitator (that ended up quite similar to the Spiralator because my husband loves that agitator so much it is his screen name here).
3) The mini tumble dryer made in UK by croslee.
4) a semi automatic washer that reminds a maytag wringer (later this year)
5) a full size washer yet super compact (HATL)
6) a monster capacity spin dryer (Mega)
7) A monster capacity washer, actually the largest capacity household washer ever made in the world, already on the market for an exclusive client (a famous Amish catalog) and a version for the "open" market will be released later this year.

and also some guidelines we use in our company as standard for all models:

1) Run away from the D.O.E. efficiency standards (We are proud to have the WORST efficiency ratings because we use decent water levels.)
2) Focus on durability and reliability, even if it makes the product cost more. Some people still prefer to pay more and have a top performer.

And also here at AWO I discovered a super detergent, Rosalie's Zero Suds, that performs much better than Tide and Persil and now our company is slowly starting to negotiate and we will probably end up including a sample box in each of our washers. (By the way i need to send some emails that are in my "to do" folder.)

Post# 996046 , Reply# 2   6/3/2018 at 03:08 by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        

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GE Appliances has that video about "Frank" and P*7 the self clean oven, so it's a good thing they recorded that story. It's in the Super forum.

Post# 996082 , Reply# 3   6/3/2018 at 10:40 by speedqueen (Harrison Twp, Michigan)        
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You give me optimism for the future, at the very time I want to dig my heels further into the past due to the lost quality of modern products. I wish you luck in your endeavors, and I await the Ventura. Depending on what I see in it, it may be the only modern machine I will own.

Post# 996133 , Reply# 4   6/4/2018 at 04:38 by thomasortega (Los Angeles - CA)        

Lots of people here will hate me forever...

It's 100% made of plastic. HIGH TECH plastic, extremely resistant.

Whatreally matters on that project are:
1) durability
2) Cleaning performance (When you select HOT it means REALLY HOT), except on delicates.
3) Rinse performance (2 deep rinses and if you select "high" it will fill up to half inch below the balance ring.)
4) Simplicity = easy to use, avoiding bells and whistles.
5) Suds Saver (Actually a water saver, the washer pauses before the drains when "water reuse" is selected so you can reuse the water and drain "pausing" to fill buckets and reuse the water to wash floors, sidewalks, etc. or, you can change the load manually and wash a second or even a third load using the same suds.)

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