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What Kind Of Water Do You People Have Out There?
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Post# 997434   6/17/2018 at 11:39 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Know we in New York are blessed with wonderfully soft water, but still am gobsmacked at the state of things that have arrived.

Steam boiler iron packed it in a month ago, so nabbed another professional one from up north (Canada). It arrived, was unpacked, and as per directions descaled (water and vinegar mix allowed to sit overnight), then emptied.

First draining produced water that was chalky white with all sorts of grit, sand, and what looked like small bits of rock. *Three* descaling solutions later it took *four* rinsing out with clean water (on top of the several descaling fluids) before water was finally clear, and free of grit, chalk and *rocks*.

Have never seen such a thing. Mind you other appliances or whatever that have arrived (such as eBay purchases) have been coated in chalk white residue that would chip teeth. Got a Nicro vacuum coffee pot off fleaPay that took a week of soaking and scrubbing with white vinegar to get the lower pot scale free.

Post# 997435 , Reply# 1   6/17/2018 at 11:54 by Laundrytime (Shreveport La)        
We have lousy water

I'm glad we don't have a shortage of water, but it is full of minerals and prematurely messes up the plumbing fixtures and pipes. The water comes out of the Red River (Tx, La, Ark, Ok) which has a high salt content for being fresh water. I don't know if a water softener would correct that or not.

Post# 997437 , Reply# 2   6/17/2018 at 12:33 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

We are fortunate on this side of our metro area in that our water is taken out of the Patuxent River which is soft. Montgomery County takes their water from the Potomac which is quite full of minerals from the mountains and mines in them. I have used both and softer is better.

Post# 997438 , Reply# 3   6/17/2018 at 12:33 by liamy1 (-)        

Soft (absolutely nothing happens on those test strips for hardness).

I couldn’t cope with even moderately hard water. Father in law has very hard water (Ireland) and it’s a nightmare, constant descaling, Brita filters etc etc

Only way I could see hard water being of benefit to me is that it would call for higher detergent doses, so would get through my stash quicker lol

Post# 997439 , Reply# 4   6/17/2018 at 12:34 by appnut (TX)        

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I have very hard water that comes from the Leon River in the Brazos River basic. 

Post# 997440 , Reply# 5   6/17/2018 at 12:45 by superocd (PNW)        

I live several miles south of Seattle and our water is as soft as it can get. I never have to de-scale the coffeemaker and the acrylic (or fiberglass?) shower enclosure never has deposits on it (though I do use auto wax after cleaning it). None of our faucets have any evidence of scale either. The dishwasher and washer sparkle and we don't even bother using Jet-Dry since there's very little spotting, if any.

I suppose if you are on a well your situation might be different. We are in a semi-rural area. Just a few miles down the road, the homes are no longer on municipal water but a well. I'm not sure if they require a softener system or not.

The only issue I have with the water is the fact that the chlorine levels might be a little high. Our kitchen sink has a reverse osmosis filtration system.

I did buy a handheld steamer at Goodwill once and the reservoir was really scaled up, bad enough that there was chalky, rock-like substance inside and it rattled if you shook it. I had to run vinegar through it several times.

Post# 997443 , Reply# 6   6/17/2018 at 13:40 by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Both houses are 'off the grid' as far as water supply goes. The well in Ogden is hard with a good iron content. No need to eat spinach at our house...LOL

In St-Lib, the well water is not just hard, it's rich in sulfur. Running a tap would fill the room with the odor of rotten eggs; we got a water-treatment system PDQ needless to say.  We also had a water softener installed in Ogden just months after moving in.  I would have to say the water there is better than in St-Lib.

Post# 997444 , Reply# 7   6/17/2018 at 13:56 by bendix5 (Central Point, Oregon)        

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Vinegar is our best friend here in Oregon. We are on community wells and it pushes up very hard water. We descale every month or so, coffee pot, kettle and pots and pans that water boils in like a egg poacher. Looking in the washer we seldom see suds. We do use a britta. No automatic ice maker as it plugs up. We fill ice trays with britta water. My wife uses distilled water in her irons because she is a quilter and doesn't want chalky steam which can stain. Our towels are stiff all of the time. I put vinegar in the wash to help with that. We don't mind. It is just part of life and we maintain. The plus side is we live in Southern Oregon in a nice area surrounded with pines and madrone trees.

Post# 997445 , Reply# 8   6/17/2018 at 14:18 by ea56 (Sonoma Co.,CA)        

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Here in Sonoma Co. we have very hard water. Our city uses community wells too, and there is a lot of calcium in the water. Just like Dan in the post above we us a Brita filter for our water, a faucet mount, which is very convenient.

Every time we use the stainless steel kitchen sink, we wipe off all the splashed water around the faucet and top ot the sink, otherwise it would always have hard water spots, same with the bathroom faucets. After we shower, we use a towel to wipe down all the tile, the faucet, shower caddy and overflow cover, to again prevent water spots. And just like Dan, we seldom see suds in the washer, and I always use the maximum amount of detergent in order to get things clean.

I descale the coffeemaker at least once a month and always use filtered water when I make coffee, it really does make a positive difference in the taste of the coffee.


Post# 997448 , Reply# 9   6/17/2018 at 14:33 by fan-of-fans (Florida)        

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We have soft water, but the iron content is the issue with well water. Our house had a Sears Iron Removal filter that was close to 40 years old and didn't seem to do anything so we removed it. Looks like the only way to get around it is to get central water piped in. This type of iron isn't the kind that permanently stains but it leaves a residue over time on shower walls, etc if you don't clean well and often.

Post# 997452 , Reply# 10   6/17/2018 at 15:02 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The other bad thing about iron-rich water is that you cannot use liquid chlorine bleach. I believe I heard that you get a bad reaction if you used LCB in sulfur-rich water, too.

Post# 997454 , Reply# 11   6/17/2018 at 15:41 by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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We have hard water in Munich which can be a nightmare sometimes.
But water quality is so much more than hardness alone.
Pollution levels are very low, it is even recommended for the preparation of baby food, has a pleasant taste, isn`t treated or chlorinated at all unless in the rare occasion of a severe flood and it`s "ice cold" year around.
Besides calcium and magnesium are supposed to be good for ones health and a little coating in the pipes doesn`t hurt either.

Taking a shower with traditional bar soap in New York City is truly amazing, but when I ran out of bottled water I found drinking the chlorine a little off putting.
Guess we can`t have it all.

Post# 997460 , Reply# 12   6/17/2018 at 17:37 by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        
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Oh yeah... I learned that the hard way when we first moved to St-Lib, Tom!  I am still cautious because I believe our hot water tank still has some residue in it.  Hot water and Oxy-Clean are what I use for the whites now.

Post# 997468 , Reply# 13   6/17/2018 at 18:05 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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From a well at the front corner of my property.  Upper-moderately hard.  No offensive odors, iron, sulfur.

Post# 997481 , Reply# 14   6/17/2018 at 19:03 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Guess am spoiled for choice then....

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Just cannot imagine having to deal with such hard water on a regular basis.

Yes, showering/bathing here in NYC is joy; tons of lather!..... Yay!

Back when soap was queen of laundry day it was a boon to anyone that water here was soft. Lessened soap requirements, and or added extras like soda, phosphates, etc...

Post# 997482 , Reply# 15   6/17/2018 at 19:05 by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        

Hard water here but with the help of the water softener, it;s good.

Post# 997484 , Reply# 16   6/17/2018 at 19:16 by robbinsandmyers (Hamden CT)        

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Soft water here sourced locally from Lake Whitney ( cotton gin fame ) but its pretty chlorinated. It actually gets good ratings each year.

Post# 997487 , Reply# 17   6/17/2018 at 19:30 by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan)        

We've got perfectly fine relatively soft water here from the Detroit system---Flint (45 miles north) got scre@@ed by the move away from the Detroit system onto a different system (Karengondi) with different base chemistry than the Detroit water. It could have been perfectly safe if they had treated it appropriately (to preserve the pipe coating), but they chintzed out, didn't treat the water appropriately so the protective pipe coating was breached and the lead leached. Thanks Governor Snyder. A funny story, though. I went over to our facility in England about 3 years ago. They'd recently moved into a new facility about 2-3 months before, so didn't have water treatment in place. They warned us to drink either bottled water or to traipse to the canteen to get filtered. The kettle they used was so filthy and encrusted (remember it was only 2 months old) I could hardly believe it---I'd been using a kettle at work for literally YEARS with no buildup of scale/minerals. I guess I'd never seen really hard water!

Post# 997488 , Reply# 18   6/17/2018 at 19:36 by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        

Our water is moderately hard. It has a bit of iron and sulfur in it, but not too much. We actually just received a letter in the mail saying that our water has high levels of a chemical compound. I threw the paper away and now can't find any info in regards to it. It would be very nice to have a water softener hooked up just before our water heater.

Post# 997489 , Reply# 19   6/17/2018 at 19:40 by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor)        

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Hard water with high iron content from my well. Have to use a water softener to make it usable, but you might as well drink ocean water from the salt used to soften, at 8 bucks a bag. So I buy drinking water. But no water and sewer bill.

Post# 997490 , Reply# 20   6/17/2018 at 19:43 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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My water is supposed to be classed as soft, but I'm not so sure. The kettle does seem to fur up over time, as do the spouts of the taps. And the iron seems to spit out sandy particulates.

Do the water companies make any attempt to add hardness to water? Soft water isn't supposed to be very good for you to drink (high sodium levels), whereas hard water is better.

Post# 997493 , Reply# 21   6/17/2018 at 19:50 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
IIRC naturally soft water isn't an issue regarding sodiu

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But mechanical or whatever other process is due to nature of how things are done.

Of course naturally soft water contains sodium and other minerals, just not usually to extent of unnatural versions.

Post# 997494 , Reply# 22   6/17/2018 at 20:11 by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

Lake Michigan gives us some of the cleanest tap water to be had. It’s hardness is around 8 gpg which is considered the bottom end of “hard”, but it takes forever for deposits to form on shower heads, around faucets etc. There’s some towns that still use well water and the quality of that is atrocious, around 25 gpg hardness and some places it smells like sulfur. There was a huge push in the 80s-90s to pipe in Lake Michigan water in suburban municipalities because of that.

Post# 997495 , Reply# 23   6/17/2018 at 20:16 by ken (Ulster Hgts, NY)        
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I see you're very happy with "our" water from up here. I live very close to two of the reservoirs that are part of the NYC water supply system.

As to our water for our homes here we all have private wells. The water is great. I've never tested ours but hardness is not an issue at all.

Post# 997514 , Reply# 24   6/17/2018 at 22:48 by Johnb300m (Chicago)        

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I'm just shy of the Lake Michigan watershed, so I'm on municipal well.
We have, like Gus said, 25 freakin' grains per gallon.
I soften my water and it's much much better.
Luckily no iron or sulfur. Our city wells are very clean, just very crunchy.

The soft water is great. I use a fraction of detergents and fabric softener.
When using liquid or powder cascade, the soap cup only has to be filled half way.
Still have to use jet dry, ironically. Otherwise I get salt spots!
However, salt spots wipe off very easily.
And I've had periodic issues with glass etching.

I drink the softened tap water, and I'm not worried about the trace salt amounts.
If I had salt health issues though, I would certainly have to get drinking water delivered in.

Post# 997515 , Reply# 25   6/17/2018 at 22:53 by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0700 CDT.))        
It's a mixed bag in the Twin Cities:

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If you live in Minneapolis or one of the suburbs supplied by Minneapolis Water works the water is from the Mississippi river and is softened before it gets to you. Minneapolis water tends to be of very good quality and softeners/filters are usually not needed. The water hardness is 4-4.5 grains per gallon

St. Paul water is mostly from the Mississippi with some well water introduced. It is also softened. Living in the range of ST Paul water additional treatment is usually not needed as the water is of good quality. Hardness is comparable to Minneapolis

Water in the suburbs is hit or miss but unless purchased from MPLS or STP is not from the river but from deep wells (700-1200 feet) drilled into the Jordan or Mt. Simon/Hinckley aquafers. While a few cities do soften their water (Eden Prairie is around 4 grains as is Bloomington which also uses about 23% Minneapolis water and Richfield and White Bear are around 6) most water is between 18 and 30 grains so very hard.
Some suburban cities have basic treatment plants(filtration only no lime softening) while others treat raw well water at the source with Chlorine and fluoride and it is sent into the distribution system.

This is why, living in a hard water area, I went with an Ecowater EWS 3500 system. No hard water buildup, no iron build up, less than 1 grain hardness. Made in MN to last 20 plus years.


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Post# 997522 , Reply# 26   6/17/2018 at 23:45 by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Eastern Pines Water out here--comes from wells.In my neighborhood-a few years ago the aging ASBESTOS water pipes were replaced with new PVC and PE ones.Got to watch the whole thing-was interesting-2 horizontal directional drills-several backhoes,A Mighty Mole drill used to bore under driveways without digging them up and a pneumatic mole that goes under streets and yards to run the pipes.Water is fine for me.The new system had to be sterilized with bleach solutions before it could be used and had to pass state and county inspections before put into service.A little of the work had to be redone.Was an interesting project the neighbors also enjoyed.We got free lessons on pipefitting!Also they used a neat pipe fusing machine!Was fun to watch it work!

Post# 997533 , Reply# 27   6/18/2018 at 01:18 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Our water comes from the Duck River and is moderately hard.  When I bought my house the shower head was so caked it would barely spray!  All the faucets had the crust on them.  I eventually replaced every faucet and now have a water softener.  No more crusties on the faucets and barely any detergent needed for washing clothes or dishes (can't even use packs in the dishwasher due to foaming).  I used to have to use an acid based cleaner for the shower doors...not anymore.  I used to work with a urologist here who says people in our location should never take a calcium supplement because our water is full of it!

Post# 997541 , Reply# 28   6/18/2018 at 02:20 by woollyaxolotl (Devon, United Kingdom)        

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Ours runs off of peat moorland and is beautifully soft. Never descaled anything and there’s no end of lather. Family members in East Anglia are at the other end of the scale (pun intended), chalk for days. I do rinse faster in the shower there though!

Post# 997560 , Reply# 29   6/18/2018 at 07:08 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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I was ironing earlier today, and I noticed that the iron spat out a few grains of dark sand. I tried crushing them, and they seemed to be composed of brown powder. I'm thinking it must be iron, probably from the elderly mains supply pipes.

Post# 997569 , Reply# 30   6/18/2018 at 07:49 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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What's said to be the best water in the world & what everyone leaving Detroit wishes they could get piped over to their whereabouts where they've moved to, just because they  think they have a good everything else!


Heck, just pipe it (most easily, cheaply & realistically) over to a place like Flint...


On the contrary, the place where I seem to be going every year, Israel has, or just tastes  the worst... And you NEED to drink water there!


I'm glad to have a water dispenser only fridge that actually, perfectly works! Just wish the filters did not go from a reasonably-priced $30-range to a very well-over $40, and not too many stores carry the kind form refrigerator, either...


What's more my daughter even says the water tastes a bit different, as in not GOOD, to the point of wanting me to replace the filter AGAIN, or even putting in a new reservoir (which is why my mom avoided those kinds of refrigerators with dispensers) neither of which, me insisting that the water & ice (the latter, which she is not as fussy about--and I wish the dispenser didn't get jammed) still tastes the same...


So it's bottled water (putting one occasional vessel of what we already can get better of in the fridge) or water from the sink, for her...




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Post# 997611 , Reply# 31   6/18/2018 at 17:07 by Revvinkevin (So. Cal.)        

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I'm on city water that comes from deep groundwater wells in a "Central Groundwater Basin". Hardness in the area was moderate, but has increased in the last 5-8 years. I was just looking at my cities water quality report and it shows zero iron (undetectable) and hardness is listed at 98 parts per million. But I'm not exactly sure what that means. It seems really high from numbers I vaguely remember.

Growing up my parents always a water softener in the house, so we were used to soft water. After living in a couple places without softened water, I installed a water softener myself after buying a house. It was really nice having soft water again.

Time is not the softeners friend it would seem, a few years ago some little part in the bottom of the brine tank failed and my salt storage tank stayed full of water. Then last year the plastic manifold for the connections cracked and I had a leak. Fortunately when I made the plumbing connections for it, I included bypass valves.

I want to replace my softener, as I've been noticing the "signs of hard water", but buying a new softener just isn't in the budget.

Post# 997643 , Reply# 32   6/19/2018 at 01:06 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Dave my fridge has that pop out filter in the bottom too.  I found them pretty cheap on ebay...much cheaper than from WP/MT/KA.  My fridge water line comes off the under sink water filter so it actually gets filtered twice from the fridge spout. 

Post# 997656 , Reply# 33   6/19/2018 at 05:29 by Mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

Water is from Edwards Aquafer down here close to San Antonio Texas, very hard water. In 19 years I've gone through 2 refrigerators, 3 dishwashers, 2 washers, and numerous shower heads. Always use Glacer water from a vendor filling station for drinking and cooking.


Post# 997664 , Reply# 34   6/19/2018 at 06:13 by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

Those of us in the village get water from municipal wells. The water is moderately hard, so many have softeners. Culligan changes a softener tank weekly, to the tune of $39 per month. I am currently the only apartment (of eight) that chooses to pay for tank exchange. The water isn't brutally hard, but hard enough to affect results in automatic dishwashing and laundry. I don't like the feel of hard water in the shower, either. Having said that, if that $39/month became critical to one's personal finances, I would have to adjust to hard water. Others have, obviously.

Post# 997668 , Reply# 35   6/19/2018 at 06:32 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Lake St. Clair

and or Detroit river. I use a Brita.
My grandmothers water was from the Ohio river, and I thought it tasted terrible.
Every municipality along the river had it's own treatment plant back in those days.
It all tasted funny to me. They all claimed they had the best drinking water in the valley. I got my grand parents a Water Pick filter for Christmas one year, after they could no longer get to the basement where they used to store the bottled spring water they ordered.
Taxes pay for water treatment and sewage treatment.
So whats in the water these days? Seems now we also have plenty of tax revenue for a "space force" military branch. If they build a star ship, I guess that's ok, but I think it's just for anti missile stuff.
Anyway, half a nice day!
Enjoy the sun, cooler, drier weather, or rain if so, and you need it.

Post# 997688 , Reply# 36   6/19/2018 at 10:05 by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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We here in Missouri and many other parts of the US are cursed with varying degrees of hard water because of porous limestone and sandstone that release calcium, magnesium and chalk. In mountainous parts of the country sometimes the water flows directly over some of these types of rocks and picks up the minerals along the way. Example-Grand Canyon.

On the other hand, there's the parts of the country with granite bedrock, like in the northeast. Water trickles down through organic material, hits granite, moves horizontally from the Adirondacks toward a low spots and makes a lake/reservoir, we connect them up and New York gets that lovely water. :)

Municipalities soften water to a usable level if necessary. Really hard water won't clean anything. It's just grey. To make the water completely soft would be extremely expensive, so if home owners want completely soft water, they have to invest in a water softener themselves. They have improved in the last few years. Ours constantly monitors the softness of the water and only regenerates when it's call for, saving on salt and water. Ours is set at zero grains of hardness (no minerals). I love it. Clothes come out cleaner without so much laundry additives, it tastes better and it's nicer on skin. No tacky feeling.

I found out the hard way a few years ago that softened water shortens the life of the anode rod in the water heater.


Post# 997690 , Reply# 37   6/19/2018 at 10:08 by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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Post# 997697 , Reply# 38   6/19/2018 at 11:12 by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

I just looked up the town where my sister used to live - Durango Colorado, and their water hardness is between 3.74-6.94 gpg. They get it from the Animas River, Florida River, and two different reservoirs.
All their water is from snow melt and rain runoff so starts off very soft and picks up minerals from the rocky rivers etc. I always expected it to be a lot harder than that but knew something was up when I never saw any real deposit buildup around faucets and shower heads.

Post# 997709 , Reply# 39   6/19/2018 at 12:26 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
Typos-: "Only", should read, "on my"...

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Also: "They ALL think they have a good everything else..." (Ex-Detroiters, Former Michiganders) 


VACERATOR: Yes, I looked at the eBay postings on your recommendations, so it's nice to see the inflated listings at Walmart, Meijer and BestBuy, Lowe's and Home Depot, back to what I used to buy my 'Pur'-brand for, and see that there, as the one with the TWO LEADS which mine MUST have, there area plenty, however, I don't know how long a shelf-life is good for, so I'm not inclined to any buying-out & hoarding...


I'll be glad to get as needed, so thank you, then, MIKE...

Just a shame to be at the mercy of those alarms at the exit doors going off for a neglected or failed product de-activation, (or compensating for the reason those products need mohave security anti-theft detectors on them--and I once was unaware a purchased filter bought at Meijer even had, though as a former-Walmart associate made the effort to deactivate, (listen to the "creepy sound") as I normally do self-checking out at the scanners) to a place like Home Depot not/never to ever have been carrying anything Whirlpool brand, Walmart no longer carrying, BestBuy only caring about what NEW, IMPROVED Whirlpool lines use, Lowe's failing to offer assistance to me searching all over the plumbing to appliance dept. for something for them to sell that one moment, to me on the brink of never offering them any return business to them, (but long ago, I DID buy it from 'that' Lowe's, back when it was a bit easier to find) and just being glad I made the last ditch at a Meijer, though the one closer to where I now work, than what was a short trip around a few blocks, down the way from Best Buy & Lowe's that didn't have...


And last, I believe the water line just runs from the general 'cold' pipe below on its way the kitchen sink, through the copper leading a still-relatively short distance to the fridge, so still deemed 'good enough, fresh enough'...




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Post# 997853 , Reply# 40   6/20/2018 at 13:33 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Yeah Dave,

I think next fridge will be a Whirlpool. Generic filters don't fit most fridges.
In fact, a GE water cooler doesn't even use the same one as their fridges.
They've had tow styles, one shorter and wider, one thinner and taller.
Alas GE is no longer even on the Dow Jones industrial trading list.
Been there before myself, bought the book, and almost the farm.
Then my spouse would be singing that old Bobby Godsboro song "Honey" I miss you, and I'm bein' good.
So no, I couldn't buy the farm before my time comes. I don't know if I was even depressed. When Kroger, Meijer, Walmart,etc. didn't hire me I was bummed, but I hit the bricks and got a job as soon as I could. Not much of one, but I gave it a couple of years. Still wasn't much of one, and was making me sick. I was on auto pilot.
Then my folks got older, sick, and needed some help. I miss them dearly.
Otherwise, life is pretty good. Just waiting a few more years to collect my retirement. I'll draw a bit less, so my spouse can have at least half, if I pass on first. I think I likely will. My family has more health problems more serious than arthritis, and bad backs.

Post# 997869 , Reply# 41   6/20/2018 at 18:59 by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        

I have the exact same refrigerator. I actually ordered a Whirlpool direct replacement and they sent the wrong size. It didn't appear any different until I tried to put the filter in. Now, it is stuck in the fridge until I need a replacement. This has happened twice. Im not sure why it is so hard to send the correct one!

Post# 997903 , Reply# 42   6/21/2018 at 05:44 by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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 Wausau’s water is moderately soft.  Typical testing results: 80 to 100 mg/l or 4-1/2 to 6 grains/gallon.


Wausau’s drinking water comes from six municipal wells, all of which are located near the Wisconsin River. These wells range in depth of 95 feet to 160 feet and pump anywhere from 900 to 3000 gallons per minute.

Post# 997909 , Reply# 43   6/21/2018 at 06:36 by kimball455 (Cape May, NJ)        

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Cape May around 20 years ago had a major water crisis on the July 4 holiday. We were rapidly running out of high quality water. Cape May is surrounded by salt water and that salt water intruded into four of our five wells. A commission was formed by the city. I was a member of that commission. We looked at the problem and over 16 possible solutions to the water supply issues.

The end result is Cape May has the first desal plant in the North East. The capacity of the plant is around 2 million gallons a day. This meets our current summer (tourist season) demands. The feed for the plant is not sea water, it is brackish water from an aquifer know as the Atlantic City Sands. This reduces energy cost and gives a higher yield than sea water.

The water from the desal (reverse osmosis) is excellent. The link is to an article about the plant and the quality of Cape May water. It is interesting to watch our visitors (AKA tourist) loading up with bottled water when better quality water comes right out of the tap.



Post# 997919 , Reply# 44   6/21/2018 at 09:31 by iej (Ireland)        

I've extremely soft water. The only slight issue is it contains a trace of iron from ferrous rock in the area.
It can leave a very slight trace of It on the kettle but it is very, very minor stuff. I only need to descale the kettle and the coffee machine maybe once a year.

The washing machine and dishwasher never have had any issue with anything..

Post# 997952 , Reply# 45   6/21/2018 at 15:18 by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
So earlier,

I was casting a few lines at the park in the local river. No nibbles, so I went walking. I pass a bridge where kids paint grafiti.A boy and girl left their names above this little ditty; "river poopers forever".
Oh, it will be gone soon, the city is adimate about a family friendly park.
Another hundred yards ahead what do I observe? Teens swimming. Yuck! I figure if the bicycle police man who passed me a minute sooner didn't make them get out, it's not my place to tell them to either.
Whats in your water?

Post# 998200 , Reply# 46   6/24/2018 at 00:18 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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It's actually the Every Drop brand that replaced Pur (which Whirlpool & all their ilk boast of featuring)--that is what I see & buy now...

-- Dave

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